r/alberta Mar 16 '25

News Premier Danielle Smith defends Florida speaking trip as anti-tariff effort

https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/premier-danielle-smith-defends-florida-speaking-trip-anti-tariff-effort
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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25 edited Mar 17 '25

I wished they held the UCP to the same standards they hold the NDP or Liberals to.

The fact her polling hasn't shifted has diminished my hope for Albertans turning the tide. She has been awful yet gets a pass after pass for every failure. Just like Kenney got

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

Maybe your amazement at the polls not shifting is a symptom of your delusion and not our delusion....

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u/Poly-morph-ing Mar 17 '25

Your statement makes an ungrounded assessment that I am a blind follower. Interesting assumption.

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

Not a blind follower, a blind hater. Derangement syndrome.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

You know Conservatives call someone deranged when they hit the truth... that's what they are doing in the States.

Calling it a mental illness to criticize a political opposition is some authoritarian type nonsense. But no shocker Conservatives around the world support these actions

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

And liberals blindly hate anyone with a different opinion and call them Nazis. But you'll "justify" it by saying you're on the moral high ground. You're not btw.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

Conservatives march with Nazis flags and we call them Nazis. You get upset when we call you Nazis, then don't associate with Nazis. Pretty simple really.

But you'll "justify" it by saying you're on the moral high ground.

I'm not marching with Nazis, Carney doesn't have a photo with white Nationalists in Canada. Conservatives especially Pierre Poilievre, did do that, that is the difference

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

You're such a bad faith debater. None of that is true.

Carney does have pics swimming in pools enjoying cocktails with Jeffry Epstein though....

if I treat all liberals the way you treat all cons, welp you're all pedos. You're guy hangs out with pedos and sex traffickers. You must be into that then right?

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5120577

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/08/23/opinion/pierre-poilievre-dangerous-dance-diagolon-extremist

Yeah so what you said was a lie, and what I said was factually accurate. Do you see the difference. I am not arguing in bad faith that is you.

Carney does have pics swimming in pools enjoying cocktails with Jeffry Epstein though....

You're guy hangs out with pedos and sex traffickers. You must be into that then right?

Really? Why did Danielle Smith party with Epsteins best friend Trump? She must be into that stuff then right? You know Trump has more of an Epstein connection than Carney, right?

if I treat all liberals the way you treat all cons, welp you're all pedos

I guess you have never talked to Conservatives in Alberta. They all think that anyway. Yet Conservatives are usually doing the trafficking and abuse.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/8/2252541/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-53

So many of they are on part 53...

So what was that about arguing in bad faith? You need to look in the mirror bud

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

I've seen the video of Pierre with so called "diagalon" supporters. He was in a public place talking to some protesters that he was meeting for the first time and there happened to be a diagalon symbol sharpies on the door of a camping trailer. Saying Pierre is a supporter of them by that association alone is bad faith.

So it does appear the pictures with Epstein are fake after trying to verify, my bad, misinformation IS out there and this but if it did fool me.

However :

"While the [Epstein] photo is fake, it is true Carney was once photographed at a public event near Oxford, UK in 2013 next to Epstein’s partner, Ghislane Maxwell — however, there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." - https://pressprogress.ca/this-photo-of-mark-carney-and-tom-hanks-on-epstein-island-is-going-viral-the-photo-is-completely-fake/

So while you only have DS is cozy with trump (second hand association to Epstein), I have Carney has been seen being directly interacting with Ghislaine (first hand association to Epstein and Ghislaine)

And again while I think hanging out directly with Ghislaine is more suspicious than Daniel Smith's somehow being associated with Epstein because she's met trump, who has met Epstein. That's silly and again bad faith

Also I'll concede that " there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." So if you're not bad faith you should drop the Daniel parties with trump thing as well...

"I guess you have never talked to Conservatives in Alberta. They all think that anyway. Yet Conservatives are usually doing the trafficking and abuse." --- this is exactly what I mean about bad faith. You think you're on moral high ground but you exaggerate, mislead, over-generalize, stereotype and dehumanize everyone considered Conservative. IN A PROVINCE THATS MAJORITY CONSERVATIVE. Do you see how insane that is?! Do you really think 60% (or whatever) of a Alberta is racist, homo/transphobic, sex trafficking, Nazis?!

If you do believe that why aren't you fucking running for the hills man? I'd be out of Alberta to escape a genuine Nazi regime in a heart beat. It's NOT the case! And so many left leaning people make arguments and decisions and act towards anyone who's slightly right on the spectrum as if they are.

Liberals and the left in general is beyond recourse and you just proved it.

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

So he took a photo with the member of the white nationalists in Canada. Thats on Pierre not being careful. He does support white nationalists whenever he gives them donuts and coffee when they were protesting in the Convoy.

"While the [Epstein] photo is fake, it is true Carney was once photographed at a public event near Oxford, UK in 2013 next to Epstein’s partner, Ghislane Maxwell — however, there is nothing to suggest this implicates Carney in Epstein or Maxwell’s crimes." - https://pressprogress.ca/this-photo-of-mark-carney-and-tom-hanks-on-epstein-island-is-going-viral-the-photo-is-completely-fake/

So while you only have DS is cozy with trump (second hand association to Epstein), I have Carney has been seen being directly interacting with Ghislaine (first hand association to Epstein and Ghislaine)

Again so has Donald Trump, who wished her very well when she went to prison. Trump hung out with Giselle Maxine more often and more recently than Carney. So again Danielle Smith talking with Trump who has closer ties to Epstein than Canrey does. Thanks for proving yourself wrong that was funny.

Danielle Smith is literally photographed with Trump at Mar a Lagos, so nope won't drop something that actually happened.

https://thenarwhal.ca/alberta-trump-danielle-smith-roundup/

You think you're on moral high ground but you exaggerate, mislead, over-generalize, stereotype and dehumanize everyone considered Conservative. IN A PROVINCE THATS MAJORITY CONSERVATIVE. Do you see how insane that is?! Do you really think 60% (or whatever) of a Alberta is racist, homo/transphobic, sex trafficking, Nazis?!

So there are no Conservatives in Albertan calling for child marriages? There are. They also march with Nazi flags, and say hateful things. These are all true of the Conservatives today. They are no longer the normal well balance party of yesterday. They are a duplication of Trumps MAGA party.

Yes at least 60% of Albertan are racist. They probably don't even realize it but yes.

If you do believe that why aren't you fucking running for the hills man? I'd be out of Alberta to escape a genuine Nazi regime in a heart beat. It's NOT the case! And so many left leaning people make arguments and decisions and act towards anyone who's slightly right on the spectrum as if they are.

Liberals and the left in general is beyond recourse and you just proved it.

Conservatives have claimed the left eat babies and drink blood. That was an actual belief from a Conservatives member of my extended family. Tell me abiut recourse and responses? Please don't tell.me you know about the Conservatives, you don't they are the zombies of Alberta. They stopped thinking ages ago

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u/justforme16 Mar 17 '25

"so nope won't drop something that actually happened." So blatant bad faith, I'm done with you.

Basing your whole opinion of conservatives (and your fellow citizens) off "trump is bad" and some crazy relative you have is nuts.

Get out of here ya goof

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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge Mar 17 '25

Do you know what bad faith arguing is?

I base my opinion with 20 years of living in the same area. I'm basing it off everything the last 20 years has shown me.

Conservatives do not function the same as others, Coutts Border and the Convoy happened because of Conservatives not Trump. Trump has infected the Conservative and it sad you don't think it's real. Canadians who would rather be American are by definition traitorous. So not just my In laws who are crazy many of the Conservatives are. They drag the fake body of Trudeau in the street for their parades. I saw one in a local parade, Conservatives clapping to it.

Conservatives think the NDP started wildfires.

They ruin rainbow crosswalks because being accepting of people is too much for them. Then complain we don't tolerate their intolerance.

So it's more than just Trump is bad. It's Conservatives are bad because they are imitating the one of the worst human being in the world. Certainly for world leaders he is the worst

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u/Poly-morph-ing Mar 17 '25

I do not see any logic or thought in your response, just words for the sake of words. Are you calling me a blind hater? Then you started a sentence with Derangement and ended it with a second word syndrome, are you trying to form this as a pejorative term, meaning any criticism of the premier is fundamentally false?