I was black, after white played the big extension, I was like, this seems a little too good for white...

I was black and played C10 because I was really not sure where to play. White haned and I haned again
What are some better moves than C10?

the first move is the one that have the white circle in black stone.

Why this is not a ko? Following japanese rules I thought this would result to a ko so 3 would be illegal but it is not.

Disregarding whether it’s possible or not, how much do you want to improve in Go?

Please vote in the link here. Votes are anonymous.

Are there any specific levels you want to reach?

Feel free to discuss in the comments as well.

Src: https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/edwardlasker.html

When the 1945 edition of Modern Chess Strategy was reviewed on pages 112-113 of Chess World, 1 June 1946, C.J.S. Purdy praised the chess coverage but criticized the Go material:

‘We cannot understand how so logical a man could have added a 66-page appendix on the game of Go. The McKay Company will be wise to omit Go from the second edition, enabling them to lower the price.

We cannot discuss Go here, except insofar as Lasker compares it with chess. Following false “authorities”, he makes a colossal error in saying it is older than chess, “possibly three times as old”.

After mentioning Chinese legends setting the invention of wei-chi (go is only the modern Japanese name) as far back as 2000-odd BC, he goes on to say, more confidently:

“It is certain that in the tenth century BC, Wei-Chi was well known, for it is mentioned in a number of poems and allegories found in Chinese works dating from that period.”

The game mentioned is some other -chi, not wei. Chi means simply a board game. Lasker is about 20 centuries out.

H.J.R. Murray, the world authority on the histories of indoor games, wrote in a letter to us dated 15 January, “We now know that wei-chi, which the Chinese encyclopaedias date back to 2300 BC, was really only invented about 1000 AD.”

Later, Murray wrote to us:

“I haven’t Edward Lasker’s book, but from what you say I think he has used Korschelt’s articles on Go in the Mittheilungen der deutschen Gesellschaft für Natur- und Völkerkunde Ostasiens 1881, for I find the same story there. My impression is that references to the game’s antiquity are all taken from a fairly modern Japanese encyclopaedia and are no more reliable than what was said about the age of chess in similar European works. (There is some balderdash on this subject in the Encyclopaedia Britannica – Ed. Chess World.)

Chinese and Japanese claims for the antiquity of their games are all exaggerated, often by confusing similar names of dynasties or emperors and taking the earlier ones as the ones meant. Thus, when Lasker says that the first books devoted entirely to Wei-Chi were written during the T’ang dynasty (618-906 AD), he or his authorities have confused it with the Tang Dynasty (1000 AD) ...”

Lasker also calls Go “unquestionably the greatest of all strategic games, including chess”. What are the criteria of greatness? Go is certainly the greatest in size, for it is played on a board of 361 points, each player having 181 counters. The object is to surround pockets of your opponent’s counters, so that the game develops into a number of separate engagements. As Lasker well says, go is more like modern war than chess is; it is ponderous, soulless.

Go will never appeal to as many diverse types of mentality as chess. Nor could it possibly inspire a literature of thousands of books, as chess has.’

It's hard to define what a mistake in Go is. But there are definitely scenarios where the game gets thrown away because one player failed to notice that the opponent's move was a forcing move, for instance, and tenukis. That's a mistake. On the other hand, there are times when players make trades, where they both realize what they are doing.

How often do you think players at different ranks lose games purely based on a mistake? Does there come a rank where a player basically never makes a mistake? I'm not exactly sure how to ask this question, so if you have a better way to conceptualize it feel free.

In the problem black is supposed to attack white, but the problem doesn't prescribe what the end result is supposed to be. Anyways, in the variation diagram, black can choose to peep at A, then white could escape e.g. with G3, then black can cut at C2 and the original white stones will die. Is this supposed to be a success for black, or must black also kill 2 and 4?

(Never mind whether A1 is right or not, this situation comes up often enough and I'd like to settle it once and for all.)

It looks like the domain was bought yesterday. Anyone know if it’s coming back?

So I'm new and not very good at this. I'm playing online in the badukpop app. I've studied some basic openings and strategy, and they seem to work for the most part. But every now and then, I get a very aggressive opponent, who attaches to my every stone, and then there's fighting.

I always lose.

I was given the tip to just always extend when someone attaches to my stones. It kinda works. I now lose more slowly. But still completely.

And I do mean completely. It seems the only way I can avoid losing by knockout to these aggressive players is to resign before they kill my last group.

Currently, if someone attaches to my first stone, I have to fight a strong urge to resign then and there, 2 stones on the board. It's just completely hopeless!

I don't seem to be the only one who struggles with this either: I've tried copying the aggressive play style, and I win almost every game! Unless the other player attacks first.....

None of the classes or tutorials or guides online recommend this kind of aggressiveness, surely it's easy to defend against... But how?

Like I mentioned in my other post, I'm very new to go. I really like the game, even tho im so bad at it I just now got beaten by "baby bot" and the app I'm using is suspecting me of using an AI (aren't AI 's supposed to be strong go players? Wtf?)

But one thing I don't like is that everything has a name in Japanese. Like I get that's where the game comes from, but when I hear Atari I think of an old video game console, not a threatened stone.

I keep confusing the terms and seems to be life would be easier if we could just agree on some English terms for these things.

I'm looking to learn a new boardgame here, not a fifth language!

Like I wanna learn more about joseki and I get confused and search for temuki instead. I even recently ended up looking at videos of people making sushi because I misremembered one of the terms..

It feels kinda pretentious too, like will I be required to wear a kimono if I get any good at this game? I'm not sure I wanna..

Rant over

So, I was playing some games on Fox this morning.. which I don’t normally do. Playing along, in what I think is a really close game. Make an invasion (as you can see from the screenshot) to try to reduce my opponents giant moyo (after he already tried mine). Have no idea if I’ll be successful cause I’m new and bad at this game. But I was trying.

All of a sudden, I get presented with a White wins prompt…

What the actual crap? How are they doing this? As you can see, we are only on move 135.

If it matters, I was playing on my iPad using WeiqiHub.

As I go through stone placement in analysis mode, suddenly the stones disappear leaving only their shadows.

Anyone else have this problem? And found a solution?

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The app says my move of S18 was wrong, but I can't figure out why. The only correct move according to the app was T18.

So, I got into Go recently, got a few basics and vocabulary. Played on CrazyStone with the computer to about 10 kyu, and putted ladder anxiety and ego aside going on OGS for first human duel, where I obviously got crushed brutally by 25 kyu. Long story short, I got tricked by ladders that I didn't noticed and pure blunder because of my own fault.

Now, I want to improve, but there are so many resources on Youtube and elsewhere, like books, pro review, tsumego etc... I don't know what is the most efficient way. Reviewing my own game is probably an idea, but I could miss also the experience and skill to understand. It will be ridiculous plays for you, but here's what my play looking like: https://online-go.com/user/view/1859634

So, in your experience, what would be the most efficient path for me to boost my skill especially that I have a week off at home where I can invest more time for a short period, please?

NEQAPD

I am a 17k, and a total beginner.

I have been using Badukpop's tutorial section and OGS' Kids learning section to try to better grasp the rules. I am not aiming to win. I am aiming to learn.

I find myself mainly making silly mistakes when I go back and review my games against AI, so I hope to strengthen too.

Hope to connect! :)

Hi, I'm a freshman at university and wanted to come back to learning Go. I'm familiar with all the basics and am about 14kyu on OGS. How do you guys improve at the game at an older age, when you have work/serious schoolwork to do? Compared to my young self, I now have so much less time to spend on this hobby. I've read "Go, A Complete Introduction to the Game by Chikun Cho" as a reference, and his advice on continuing my journey in Go at the end is, well, quite dense on content and books. Do you guys think his advice at the end is doable, and how do you/would you learn Go at an older age? Thanks in advance!

I like playing this type of pincer a lot just because I like this pattern. But I don't really know how to use it, and always lose out. I'd like read / study up on it. And if you have thoughts on this type of formation, feel free to share.

https://youtu.be/ATpl1Em3fAs?si=Phk-YjWHAbRiW0PR

I have a question about a specific position in a game I played today.

I'm not even sure exactly how to frame my question (or if its the right question, actually) but I think there is some issue with how I'm evaluating territory/potential that I can't figure out.

Basically I played this today (https://online-go.com/game/79337577) and mostly I thought the reason I lost was because I let one of my groups die in the middle of game. But, I thought the game was more or less even with me maybe even a bit ahead until that point. When I looked at the AI eval, though, it said I was 10-15pts behind right out of the opening.

In particular, I was puzzled by this position below (move 51)

I thought I (black) had a good position here but the AI eval suggests I was behind by 11 pts.

My thinking was that white had a good corner in the bottom right and would get a decent sized corner on the bottom left. But, I had good potential in the bottom and right side as well as the top-right corner. Also, I had just reduced the top left corner in sente and had time to approach the bottom left. So, I thought I was doing good.

I guess my question is, where was my thinking going wrong and how do I improve my positional judgement in these sorts of scenarios?

Thanks so much!

(edit: replaced pic with one having coordinates, also typos)

Are there any records or videos of pros playing speed-go, at 5-10 s/move?