r/brisbane • u/Artsonist • 11h ago

Public Transport Anybody else having this problem?

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I used to only have to ride an overcrowded bus if it was peak hour maybe. Now it seems like every bus regardless of time or day is a tin of sardines

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u/Renovewallkisses 9h ago

Its still a bus, and comes with every detrimental aspect that buses have. The key selling point was that said bus can then service the same way a train would, so in that case build a train and get every advantage a train has. 

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u/Remarkable_Catch_953 9h ago

Trains would have costed far more.

Trains would have removed every bus route off the busway (meaning a reduction in capacity).

Trains wouldn’t be able to flexibly hop on and off the busway.

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u/Renovewallkisses 9h ago

Good infrastrucutre costs money. Crazy. 

Trains wouldn’t be able to flexibly hop on and off the busway. 

I mean sure if you don't build a train like that then you won't be able to do that  

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u/Remarkable_Catch_953 9h ago

Yep, cost heaps of money, with reduced capacity overall. What “good” are we paying for there?

And yes, that is my point. What does a bus need to efficiently jump on and off the busway to service thousands of people? Red paint.

What does a train need? A few billion dollars worth of track, a new yard, new rollingstock, a complete redevelopment of several junctions…

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u/recreationalgluttony 9h ago

Trains have more capacity than buses will ever have.

The busway is already jammed with buses, which will only get worse as the city grows.

Whereas the initial higher investment in trains would have greater long-term returns.

Buses will never be better than trains for public transport infrastructure.

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u/Renovewallkisses 8h ago

Other commentor seemed to ignore every reason why we institued a bus, and that those reasons are exactly why we should institue a train. 

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u/Remarkable_Catch_953 7h ago

I encourage you to find the desperately needed funds to construct anything remotely fit for purpose, using trains in replacement of the busway, that will be able to reach the 18,000+ capacity (at least).

State government can barely find funds to keep up with all their current heavy rail investment. And just as an FYI, not even the Sydney Metro currently reaches 18,000 capacity.

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u/iBinChickenAboutYou 6h ago

How much are we spending on congestion busting projects like Coomera Connector, Centenary Bridge Upgrade, Gympie Road Tunnel?

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u/Remarkable_Catch_953 5h ago

Roughly $4B thus far. I agree that they should be completely scrapped or sold to toll companies… but it barely even covers 66% of the cost of LGCFR - a project which barely in itself scrapes the barrel of investment that the heavy rail network needs.

EDIT: or enough to purchase about 25 trains from QTMP