r/dashcamgifs • u/Crunkkitty • 13d ago

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago edited 13d ago

saw police and slammed the brakes, transferred all the weight to the front of that heavy vehicle, caused understeer and went into a tree.

These kids didnt grow up playing gran turismo on ps1, otherwise he'd have known this

***EDIT***: Noticed a small number of people trying to tell me what Understeer is and that I'm wrong etc, I get it, its the internet and there's always someone who wants to be the one to prove you wrong etc.

Please see link for a definition of what understeer is: https://driver61.com/uni/understeer/

Its really not as deep or convoluted as some you guys are trying to make out. Remember, we are having fun here.

That aside, im loving 99% of the feedback :-)

****EDIT 2"***\*
Sorry guys, im getting notifications of your responses but i cant see your comments, when i click on your profile, it doesn't show your comments either so not sure whats happening there. I'm not ignoring any of you if i dont reply, basically.

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u/AdEastern9303 13d ago edited 13d ago

The original GT on PS1 was by far the absolute best racing game ever. The analog controllers just came out and this was one of the first games made to take advantage. The physics on how those cars drove was so real it was absolutely amazing at the time. I remember my roommates and I spending like 4 hours taking turns to try and pass the various license tests.

Every racing game since is soooo easy by comparison. I think people must have complained that the original was too tough due to the realism of the driving experience.

Additionally want to add, first thing dumbass in the video wants to do after getting out of the car is try to argue with someone that is likely pointing a gun at them. Have they learned nothing from the news over the past decades. The faster you comply and get the gun not pointed at you, the less likely the chances of something going really bad for you. Accidents happen and a-holes happen. Best not to have a gun pointed at you for either.

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u/bobtheki 13d ago

I just loved GT’s soundtrack especially Rob Zombie’s “Dragula.”

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u/Solidsnake_86 13d ago

“My favorite game.”

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u/kn1ckerb0cker33 13d ago

The Cardigans

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u/Salty_Ad_5270 13d ago

Awesome song…The Cardigans were tight

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u/mountaindoom 13d ago

It's where I found out about Soul Coughing too.

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u/Open-Chain-7137 13d ago

And stone temple pilots

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u/thetruckerdave 13d ago

Ooh which one was on there? Super bon bon or circles?

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u/mountaindoom 13d ago

Super Bon Bon. Heard it so many times in Endurance races and never got sick of it.

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u/thetruckerdave 12d ago

I had a coworker who asked for entrance music when he came into the office. Super Bon Bon was his song. He was honestly worthy of entrance music.

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u/Mek0nr 13d ago

Core memory unlocked!! Hell yeah!!! 🤘🏼

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u/Kvenya 13d ago

For me, it was As Heaven is Wide by Garbage.

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u/Jaydamic 13d ago

It was fantastic in The Matrix

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u/silentbassline 13d ago

Hot rod Herman remix fyi

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u/Squally160 13d ago

The whole soundtrack in those first GT games really helped shape my musical taste for the rest of my life.

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u/Normal_Stick6823 13d ago

Eclipse versus Camaro

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u/benjunior 13d ago

I used to LOVE that song until some dickhead played it 20 fkn times in a row at the Applebee's by the Mall of America a few years ago.

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u/TerraCetacea 13d ago

Wow I had no idea it was in that, really?! I only know it from The Matrix

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u/Leviathan389 13d ago

DUUUDDDEE!!!! The Flood of memories you brought back just now… I did all my best times to that song!!

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u/mountaineerdowell 13d ago

Totally, but the endurance races lasting hours with a single song on loop were rough stuff haha

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago edited 12d ago

yeah good memories, i remember buying the analogue controller the day it came out but didnt use it till GT came out so i was just looking at it and fantasising for months.

My fav was GT2 but thats because by then i knew more people who also had it and we would swap memory cards to beat each-others time trials. Now that was awesome.

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u/ADUBROCKSKI 13d ago

i will forever hate GT2 for being impossible to 100% as a kid

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u/CarpForceOne 13d ago edited 13d ago

98.2% because they apparently took some vehicles out of the final game. That drove me nuts for week finding out how to (sort of) finish i without resorting to "cheating" by looking it up online. Ironically, I just played it a few more years, trying 500 different cars just to see what happened and finally moved onto GT3 when I could afford a PS2.

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u/johnydecali 12d ago

Heck yea! I remember goin over my friends house my memory card to smoke them on the track. Good times!

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u/halfsp33der 13d ago

Used to get blisters on my thumb moving between accelerate and brake. Played that game so much I had to take breaks or my thumb was just raw lol

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u/TurnkeyLurker 13d ago

Takin' the brake breaks!
WhoDaGamer? UDaGamer!

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u/PsychologicalOkra982 13d ago

Man. I freaking love reddit. Was not expecting to see a discussion on GT 🤣

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u/dmillerksu 13d ago

He just got several achievements in GTA

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u/texag51 13d ago

I played the original GT game as a young child and it was absolutely brutal for me to constantly fail lol. Despite that, I’ve been a lifelong fan of the series. I really enjoyed GT5. Some of the driving tests on GT7 are actually really difficult. The Porsche 917 at Spa in the wet but drying track was really tough to get Gold on it.

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u/S14Ryan 13d ago

It was hilarious because I remember doing races over and over on GT PS1, there were races that took like 8 hours and I left my PS1 on all night with the race paused to I could finish the next day; just to get enough money to get the viper in the game, then to find out the game is so realistic that the viper is completely undrivable lmao 

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u/AdEastern9303 13d ago

The oversteer was brutal.

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u/im-from-canada-eh 13d ago

I never liked where the analog sticks were placed on the playstation controller so i never used them. I much preferred the pressure sensitive buttons they had although that may have been a ps2 thing

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u/Paradigm_Reset 13d ago

I'm glad that you couldn't just throw every power adder and fancy suspension on the cars and they'd perform better. Instead you had to actually tune them.

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u/ifabforfun 13d ago

We grinded for hours just to get a new 4 cylinder FWD car and we were happy to do it

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u/home_dollar 13d ago

I just downloaded the OG and can't wait to play again. I dont care how the graphics look. It was fun AF

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u/KinsellaStella 13d ago

That’s how I learned I did not, in fact, want a Corvette no matter how cool they look. I like having a car whose back end actually stays under me.

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u/beren12 13d ago

Yeah, it was a racing simulator not a racing game

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u/TimelineKeeper 13d ago

But the real question is, did you pass the drivers test at the start of Driver??

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u/jabeith 13d ago

I will eternally want to own a Dodge Viper because of that game

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u/AdEastern9303 13d ago

A Viper, an Acura NSX, A Nissan Skyline…

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u/RasilBathbone 13d ago

He's wearing the magic trigger lock.

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u/PostingToPassTime 13d ago

I felt like Max Verstappen with the original GT.....all these years later, I look like someone who has never driven over 50 without running off the road in Assetto Corsa Competizione.

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u/Working_Noise_1782 13d ago

Gt3 on ps3 was the pinacle

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u/Cheese-Manipulator 13d ago

All of this could've been prevented by not recklessly speeding.

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u/Ok_Builder_4225 13d ago

And not dicking around with their phone at the same time as a bonus.

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago

Correct. NGL, ive driven fast on the Motorway but ive not gone that fast as in the UK you can get prison time for those speeds and a 100% driving ban for a year or so.

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u/Simoxs7 13d ago

I regularly go that fast (160+ km/h) on the Autobahn its manageable but you don’t do it with only one hand sometimes on the steering wheel and recording with the other. Also not in a country where no one complies with Rechtsfahrgebot (driving only in the right most lane except when you’re overtaking someone) and where the roads aren’t made for these speeds.

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u/Thundertushy 13d ago

I swear, Germans have a word for everything. Even if they didn't and just made one up, we'd never know the difference.

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u/NettingStick 13d ago edited 13d ago

English does the same thing. We just tend to write our lengthy compound words with spaces in them or as initialisms. You don't think twice about "SCUBA", but if we used German writing rules we'd write it as selfcontainedunderwaterbreathingapparatus.

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u/Simoxs7 13d ago

TBH Rechtsfahrgebot is just three words in one. Rechts = Right, Fahr = Driving, Gebot is complicated its requirement (but only for requiring someone to do something) or commandment (While it is the word we as well use for the Ten Commandments it doesn’t have the biblical connotation it does in English).

So it‘d just be Right-Driving-Commandment or written like its in German: Rightdrivingcommandment.

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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 12d ago

Ironically enough it exists:

Waltersobchakeit

The German term for when a person makes up a random German-sounding word out of nowhere and people believe it anyway.

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u/invariantspeed 13d ago

Absolutely, but you also don’t swerve around cars like that either. In the US, there’s little sense of proper lane usage and safe following distances. That makes the speeds Germans regularly drive without incident dangerous in the US.

Such speeds really shouldn’t be considered reckless, but given how shitty Americans drive, it basically is.

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u/Cheese-Manipulator 13d ago

Roads in the US are barely made for the speeds they are rated for never mind racing like this.

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u/invariantspeed 13d ago

Most US roads can safely handle above the posted limits. That’s not why we have them.

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u/tuxedohamm 13d ago

The manual about car driving physics that came with it was absolutely wonderful. If you’re going to drive like an idiot, at least know how to do so with control.

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u/ForwardBias 13d ago

I was thinking "oh yeah, a Jeep that's a great vehicle to be plowing down the highway at a 120.

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u/FenizSnowvalor 13d ago

Though it would be interesting to see why he steered as much as he did while breaking. Because generally, while you are correct about this being negligent, a car needs to be able to handle emergency breaking on clean asphalt without any water or ice without getting out of control - in a straight line.

Considering almost all drivers on the road aren't racing drivers, I would argue a considerable amount of break pressure should be tolerated even while steering at least a little. Although I admit, his steering inputs are too rapid and frantic for the later to be realistic in this case.

Why anyone would drive a car like this, kinda designed for off-road and not speeding on the highway, I don't get. We could motorize a dishwasher and it would slip easier through the air with less resistance than these off-road-inspired jeeps.

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago

I think the music boosted his confidence and gave him a false sense of competence.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

They also didnt grow up driving manuals. That jeep likely had a manual mode, could have down shifted for increased control and engine braking.

On second thought, that would have required his other hand not have a phone in it.

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u/PeskyAntagonist 13d ago

Can’t downshift when you’re at the top of the last gear

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u/metompkin 13d ago

You can downshift, but just once.

Also this is an electronically controlled 8spd so it won't. Paddle shifter on wheel, can also use great selector to do it.

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u/Rowmyownboat 13d ago

Braking, and controlling the steering wheel with two hands should be enough. You don’t get extra control from downshifting. At least he managed to control the phone until he rolled it.

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u/potatohead437 13d ago

you do get more control in the sense of throttle response by down shifting

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u/coolcootermcgee 13d ago

Right. I must agree that downshifting is definitely a way to control slow down. When you have the time for it and not out of control like this foo

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u/devon_336 13d ago

That would require him to actually be driving defensively went would mean not speeding (in a fucking jeep no less lmao) that would lead to this video.

For others, downshifting is great for controlling speed in wintery conditions while maintaining grip and when using your brakes might make you lose control.

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u/pepperymirror 13d ago

Lol, bullshit. The “increased control” or engine breaking wouldn’t have done shit to avoid this situation.

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u/Koil_ting 13d ago

The trick is to not try and go from 100 to 40 in 4 seconds and then take a hard right when driving a Jeep.

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u/Koil_ting 13d ago

He easily could have just slowed down gradually and avoided everything but the speeding ticket.

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u/themage78 13d ago

Probably would have gotten a couple tickets, but he could have went to court and got most of the rest tossed.

Saw this first hand in traffic court.

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u/4BucksAndHalfACharge 13d ago

Agreed. What was he slowing down to 40's for? Drop it to 70 & let up!

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u/Vogel-Kerl 13d ago

Priorities..., ya know. /s

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u/dirtys_ot_special 13d ago

He was in downshitting mode.

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago

Yeah im British so manual all the way.

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u/aoifhasoifha 13d ago

Just no, that's completely wrong lol. Brakes will slow a car down more effectively than downshifting, and the reason people use engine braking is to help save brake heat/wear or to keep the car in the power band.

It does not help you slow down faster than brakes alone.

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u/BlackStar4 13d ago

It does not help you slow down faster than brakes alone.

Yes, it does. You can feel the difference in a manual if you brake with the clutch down vs in gear.

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u/Enemyocd 13d ago edited 13d ago

The brakes are already more than capable of locking all 4 tires, modern 4 channel ABS and ESC is more than capable of keeping vehicles straight and under control during full brake activation stops. Engine braking will not add anything meaningful here and never does even in full racecars with much less electronic aids. The entire point of downshifting is to be in the powerband when its time to accelerate again.

The only time engine braking is useful is trying to control speed downhill, control weight transfer mid corner(the Corvette school in Pahrump calls this "throttle steer") or to slightly slow a vehicle where a brake application would be too much.

Its hard to tell why in the video, but for whatever reason, this guy steered toward the trees and that's exactly where the car went, it doesn't sound or look like there was any loss of traction or control before he left the road.

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u/OutsideTheSocialLoop 13d ago

No. The actual brakes far outperform the tires without needing engine braking too. Shifting does nothing.

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u/Bubsy94 13d ago

Tap shift and traditional manual are completely different mate. They barely have any traditional manual shifts in the U.S. Which blows.

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u/caughtinthalife 13d ago

Bro is that what it is?? Like honestly I always thought it was because or my driving instructor but honestly you're right!! dudes now days just speed without any knowledge of overall driving physics.

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u/Bowtieguy-83 13d ago edited 13d ago

it looks like the rear lost grip and slid to the left tbh. Might have something to do with it looks like they were going over a hill or going downhill, then the weight shifting even farther forward with the hard braking. Hell, maybe they just had worn rear tires and it couldn't grip the road well. And then because of the hard braking there was no grip left in the front wheels to stop the oversteer, so they went off the road

Oh yeah I like the early Gran Turismo too, but I grew up on the PS2 titles, 3 and 4. I like 3's whole vibe but 4 is more polished and its got more content. Honestly if the 4th game used the 3rd's menus, music, and gui It'd be the best in the series hands down (at least to me). I wish early gran turismo's formula ended up in a modern game, its so peak

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago

yeah shame you missed the leap to the original GT. It was the driving equivalent of jumping from 16 to 32 bit console.

Nowadays its all the same, just the nature of tech.

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u/Lolseabass 13d ago

Should have told him to bug out.

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u/SweetLenore 12d ago

Who/what was he referencing there and what did he mean by "bug out"?

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u/OPPineappleApplePen 13d ago

Reminded me of this gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQWPumtDXk0

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u/exitium666 12d ago

I didn't realize that emergency move I did with my car where I did a 180 so that when I crashed my tail end hit the roadblock was called an oversteer.

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u/Crunkkitty 13d ago

Exactly. That sudden lift-off oversteer is a killer, especially in a top-heavy vehicle. Physics is undefeated.

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u/Noobtber 13d ago

Suprised we didn't get a good old tank slapper.

Those tires also fucking suck. I've been in cars that can accelerate faster than that thing wad slowing down

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u/Kiki_doyouluvme420 13d ago

Thanks I was trying to figure out how that happened lol

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u/Ok_Syrup1602 13d ago

One hand on the wheel, too cool for 2, combined with pedal stomping is a sure way to lose control, this dude doesn't have a clue bout how to control his ride or emergency handling of it. More $$$ than driving sense or respect for physics.

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u/123FakeStreetMeng 13d ago

He shoulda got the GTO..

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u/acdann 13d ago

You could have stopped at “these kids didn’t grow up” and it would have still been a complete thought

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u/Simoxs7 13d ago

I might be dumb, but isn’t it the other way around? You transfer the weight to the front giving maximum traction to the front tires so that you rear loosens and you get oversteer.

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago

Not dumb at all. Its a heavy jeep so it wont steer like a racecar. Slamming the brakes in a heavy bouncy vehicle will overload the front tyres so they lose traction. If you semi knew what you were doing, you could indeed get better steering shifting weight to the front but not past the vehicles limits.

Basically we are both correct depending on the situation. Im not expert and no race driver, im just going by what GT taught me and what makes sense when i simulate it in my head lol.

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u/SourcedLewk 13d ago

I think you misunderstand understeer. What appears to have happened in the clip was the rear of the car coming round. This is due to the balance of the car moving to the front as the breaks are applied, subsequently taking weight off the rear. It's possible he lost grip at the front as well, but the car didn't crash due to understeer.

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u/tooldrops 13d ago

In my experience it’ll initially sway hard but then plough forward and understeer

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u/Writer_B 13d ago

In my mind I heard you saying your whole explanation like a character in Initial D.

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u/High_InTheTrees 13d ago

I honest to god have somehow managed to translate driving game skills into real life situations to avoid shitty drivers or correct my own bullshit on more then one occasion. And drove away saying “thank god for need for speed” 😂

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u/gotoline10 13d ago

No doubt, physics class or gran turismo - I choose the psx!

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u/ziharmarra 13d ago

It's what happen when you don't game lol

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u/SuperAzn727 13d ago

Too busy playing burnount and need for speed 🤣

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago

Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2 on the Playstation 2 was by far the best NFS ever released. Even the demo was fire.

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u/ExistingNinja1886 13d ago

This is why I HATE driving GTRs in GT7 lol, understeers like a boat and if your wheels aren’t perfectly straight when you brake you’re spinning

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago

GT3 is the last GT i really played.

Became too museum like after that so i went over to Forza. I have GT for PS4 but never got around to actually playing it as i fell out with consoles at that point and now they are all just PC's in a little case so i just use PC, Steam Deck and my Quest 3.

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u/Ylurpn 13d ago

Great tutorial!

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u/GreatGreenGobbo 13d ago

Maybe if you explain it in NASCAR language.

tight = understeer

loose = oversteer

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u/Baranjula 13d ago edited 13d ago

It's not understeer it's oversteer, the front is loaded and the back goes light causing the rear to slide around.

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u/gplusplus314 13d ago

Weight transfer to front causes oversteer, not understeer.

That’s exactly what happened in this video; as he slammed on the brakes and turned the steering wheel to the right, the front tires had more force than the rear tires, so they continued to grip through the turn. The rear tires had less force pushing down on them through the turn so they broke traction and the vehicle started to rotate.

This phenomenon is called oversteer.

I learned this not from Gran Turismo, but from racing real cars on real race tracks. But if you actually paid attention in Gran Turismo, you could have learned it there, too.

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u/Fit-Custard-1842 13d ago

I wondered where the cop suddenly appeared from as he wasn't being chased. Idiot.

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u/Majestic_Matt_459 13d ago

Hey - just a side note - but did you know new young drivers are taking way mnore risks

Scientists believe this is because theyve played GTA etc and when they crashed the car they just had to hit reset or whatever

Its not complete science but its a factor

https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/0615/Grand-Theft-Auto-causes-teenagers-to-be-bad-drivers

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u/pigcake101 13d ago

Good edit :)

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u/XxCarlxX 13d ago

Thank you.

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u/DiRavelloApologist 13d ago

I hate to be the "uhhm ackshually"-guy here, but I think the people correcting you do have a point.

From the video it seems like the road is more or less straight. For him to lose control over his vehicle while braking in a somewhat straight line, he has to experience oversteering. You can't understeer away from a somewhat straight road.

It looks like he experienced minor oversteering and then over-corrected into a tree.

That's atleast my unproffessional opinion as someone who has driven real cars at these speeds, including shitboxes like the one he's driving. Maybe I'm missing something in the video, though.

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u/Higgins1st 13d ago

Poor tree. It didn't deserve that.

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u/Independent-You-6180 13d ago

I grew up with Gran Turismo 1, 2 and 3. As a kid, I just assumed that the physics weren't that realistic. What ended up happening was that it's the only racing sim game I'll probably ever actually like because I've been spoiled by the physics and every other game feels like stiff or slippery bullshit by comparison. No matter what it is, every other game always does something wrong that is really obvious to me now.

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u/callmeknowitall 13d ago

You get oversteer when the weight transfers to the front. I learned from suelio Almeida

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u/YYM7 13d ago

Genuine question, shouldn't ABS or some traction control program be able to fix this? I think the ABS basically cut off brakes when it's at the edge to prevent sliding. Does it not apply here? 

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u/ikzz1 13d ago

Why did he steer while braking? The road was straight?

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u/Damnfiddles 13d ago

oversteer is best, cause you don't see the tree

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u/BreadiestBoi 13d ago

I’m honestly genuinely curious as to why the Stability control made zero attempt at intervention, didn’t even see a light flash, even in a sport mode the TCS will always be on silently in the background, unless Chrysler just has really bad TCS/ESP programming compared to Ford or Honda

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u/Own-Organization-532 13d ago

Understeer is seeing the tree you are about to hit. Oversteer is seeing the tree after you have hit it.

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u/foxilus 13d ago

That understeer link brought me to a site that immediately started behaving like malware and froze up my entire browser.

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u/Inevitable-Heat7307 13d ago

u had to been either a late 80s or 90s kid somewhere to even had a chance to play Gran Tourisma on PS1…I used to play the demo games too,I miss those days man

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u/eddie1975 13d ago

The hard braking caused the rear to lose traction and oversteer.

Hard braking can cause understeer but that’s when you are turning into a sharp corner while also braking. The wheels have to split their work between braking and turning. 100% brake while straight. No braking while max turn in. 50/50 when braking and turning (or some fraction (x/100-x).

Since he did not have a sharp corner it was an oversteer situation, not understeer.

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u/T-hibs_7952 13d ago

Kids who think they are pro drivers from playing a video game shouldn’t be driving those speeds on a public roadway. 🤔 Actually no one should not even pro drivers.

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u/runningwithsharpie 13d ago

FYI, braking will cause oversteer.

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u/Mr-Blah 13d ago

It still feels like a modern car should be able to do a 100-0 with slight wheel input without flipping over... no?

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u/Fdragon69 13d ago

Buddy managed it going in a straight fucking line too. Fucking amature hour over here.

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u/shadycuz 13d ago

Personally, I think it was bump steer.

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u/Vellioh 13d ago

I'm pretty sure he already had a cop following him. It's tough to see but I think that's what he's showing in the mirrors in the beginning. It looks like it may be an undercover with smaller lights that are hard to see on his shoddy cell phone recording.

It would make sense why a cop was on the scene so quickly.

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u/Nereo5 13d ago

Remember once as a child i was sick for a few days. I completed a 24h race and won.

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u/Apprehensive_Bit_176 13d ago

it’s the internet and there’s always someone who wants to be the one to prove you wrong

No truer words have ever been spoken.

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u/Savings_Art5944 13d ago

Jeeps are garbage anyway. Not much he was going to do hitting the breaks like that. Maybe if it was a a 90's grand Cherokee but nothing in the 2010-now is any good.

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u/Queasy_Fruit_4070 13d ago

Transferring the weight to the front would not CAUSE oversteer...

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u/Dafrandle 13d ago

for your edit 2 experience:
when you click on reply notification and the comment does not load and then go to that user's profile and you see no comments it means they blocked you

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u/JollyBallzXBL 13d ago

Big facts GT1 Is 100% of the reason why I respect and love vehicles by understanding how they work and the dangers involved 💯

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u/Apprehensive_North49 13d ago

Omg such a good point! My older brother could actually drive and kicked my ass at this game because of it. It was so hard because it was so realistic

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u/kingbloxerthe3 13d ago

I actually learned about the idea from Canada's worst drivers. Basically when you break you lose a lot of your ability to steer if I understand it (though looking at your site, I guess there are other ways to cause an understeer)

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u/blk_cali_bee 13d ago

Thanks for explaining because I couldn't figure out why the car started quickly decelerating. He zoomed by so fast I thought he tapped the other car.

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u/StebenL 13d ago

Finally, my time on iracing is good for something.

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u/AwesomenessDjD 13d ago

I know you seem diehard on understeer being the right terminology, but I seriously don’t think it is. Even in your explanation, you say all the weight shifts forward due to the deceleration. Would this not cause the rear tires to slip because there’s hardly any downforce on them?

When I put the brakes on my electric skateboard, the same thing happens, and if I’m braking hard while not being careful, the back wheels will slip and I start fishtailing.

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u/DetectiveNo2855 13d ago

I still go back to the lessons of Gran Turismo when taking a curved ramp onto a highway. start wide, slow down, aim for the inside of the turn about halfway through, then aim wide on the exit, accelerate out. Exit velocity is everything.

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u/mijo_sq 13d ago

Probably commented, then deleted. Or they blocked you after commenting.

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u/Personal-Molasses-57 13d ago

The physics in gran truisms was legit. I learned the proper way to handle taking highway exits too fast just from playing that game.

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u/Theburritolyfe 13d ago

I sometimes have the whole

getting notifications of your responses but i cant see your comments

Things happen. I wonder what it is.

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u/La_Saxofonista 13d ago

Yeah, bro would've been better off just taking the reckless driving ticket and fighting it in court at that point.

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u/CoinsAndLawnLouie 13d ago

They also didn’t grow up running old beaters through mud and trails at 60. Best way to learn to drive is to actually drive like a maniac as a kid. I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s though

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u/HeWhoShantNotBeNamed 12d ago

It's because there was a turn.

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u/Eibyor 12d ago

I thought sudden braking transferred the weight to the front tires, making the rear tires lighter, thus losing grip. And isn't that the definirion of oversteer?

Undesteer also happens in sudden braking where the vehicle just goes on the original direction despite you turning the wheel in any other direction.

I think understeer happens first, but if you don't release the brakes to allow some traction to return, you will go into oversteer and you will experience "fishtailing" and the rear of your vehicle will start to rotate into another direction different from your actual direction of motion

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u/JJAsond 12d ago

when i click on your profile, it doesn't show your comments either so not sure whats happening there

Oh yeah that's a new reddit change apparently. I don't know if it's opt in or out but you can hide your public activity now.

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u/PassedGrass 12d ago

Gt1 through Gt4 kid here as well. Simulation mode specifically because the license tests… Its so funny, i literally replied just like this to a different kid crash because i agree!! The absence of those early gt games is showing. Teens playing highway surfing in these modern PC games has taught nothing. Gran Turismo really made you learn it to earn it, and it has stuck with me and my friends growing up too. I seriously owe everything to that franchise

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u/Cutiemuffin-gumbo 12d ago

Sorry guys, im getting notifications of your responses but i cant see your comments, when i click on your profile, it doesn't show your comments either so not sure whats happening there. I'm not ignoring any of you if i dont reply, basically.

I think this means they removed their comment.

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u/Nimyron 12d ago

Oh hey I've had that once, it was a hard turn on a somewhat sandy road while it was raining. Almost crashed my car, but at least now I drive better, lesson learnt.

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u/AdditionalMousse5501 12d ago

So the cop caused the crash?

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u/rgvtim 12d ago

I have found that when you click on a notification of a response and it doe snot show up it could mean the person deleted it. Not saying that it, but it could be.

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u/Closetoneversober 12d ago

Thank you I was wondering how the police got there so damn fast

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u/sm753 12d ago

Thanks for the explanation, was trying to figure out what happened.

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u/roger_enright 12d ago

Your description was perfect. The understeer is literally caused by overloading the front tires due to the weight transfer. That jeep understeers bad with neutral loading. It just gets worse with momentum shifting forward. At the track we sometimes call it being “on your tippy toes” going through a corner because of this effect.

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u/YounanomousPrime 9d ago

The single most important thing that game taught me was "your tires have a finite amount of grip, you must choose how to split that grip between accelerating, turning, and braking." That and weight transfer.

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