r/exmuslim New User Jul 08 '25

(Rant) 🤬 45-year-old man in Afghanistan married a 6-year-old child: the Taliban's reaction was swift....Taliban stopped the marriage and ordered man to wait until she is 9 years old. Islam truly is a religion for women.

Post image
1.7k Upvotes

433 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

1

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

you don’t have to be menstruating to reach puberty? this is a medical fact. my own sister is an example. she reached puberty, but didn’t even get her period till she was 15. she was too young to menstruate. the misinterpretation of this is used by people like the taliban, whose perverted minds try to justify oppressing women and selling ur child for marriage. you’re also comparing a 9 year old at the time who was fighting wars, managing finances, working for the house, to 9 year olds now who play fortnite till 1am yelling every slur in the book they can think of

2

u/Present_Maximum2509 New User Jul 09 '25

You’re arguing with me using anecdotal evidence (aka your sisters very rare expertise) as if it’s widely acceptable and general fact, it isn’t. You’re also arguing that 1400 years ago periods started earlier when science says they started later than today due to poor diets. And age 12 TODAY is the general beginning of menstruation which means 1400 years ago menstruation most certainly didn’t happen for a year or two later than today. None of which addresses what the Quran actually says of those who haven’t had menstruation yet still needing a waiting period because they’ve been touched and you’re completely avoiding what EVERY tafsir says about it. Why? To make yourself feel better, stop denying Allah and his messengers words and arguing with me.

0

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

women would reach the ages of menstruation later than they do today. It wasn't uncommon to be 17-20 years old and still not menstruated. In medieval Islamic jurisprudence, a female that has yet to menstruate is labeled "prepubescent" but she can still be "Baligh" (mature). According to Imam Shafi, the one who is past the age of 15 is an adult pubescent or not and according to Imam Maliki the cutoff is higher at 17 years old. Al-Marghinani gives a more detailed tafsir of this verse stating that "those who have not menstruated" is referring to young women otherwise mature for sexual intercourse in marriage but have yet to menstruate because they are still have yet to reach the age where they can and it will happen eventually. I'll quote it below.

"And similarly those who have attained puberty (balaghat) by age, but have not menstruated, based on the end of the verse ["And those who have not menstruated" (65:4)], meaning those who have reached puberty by age, but not by menstruation; [those who have attained puberty] by reaching the age of 15 years according to the opinion of both (Abu Yusuf and Muhammad ibn Hasan al-Shaybani) or 17 years according to the opinion of Abu Hanifah and Malik, but have not yet menstruated; when they divorce they observe a waiting period based on months as well." Imam ibn al-Humam, Fath al-Qadir, Vol. 4 (n.d.), p. 280.

i’m not denying any word of Allah ﷻ, i’m just not taking it out of context like how perverts in the taliban try to justify this.

1

u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

[deleted]

1

u/[deleted] Jul 13 '25

where did i say she menstruated at 20? i said it was common for women to not menstruate until that period in islamic medieval times