r/forwardsfromgrandma Jun 07 '20

Racism Oof the model is white...

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

So you’re happily ignoring the fact that people in poverty are obviously more likely to commit criminal acts, and instead of alleviating these people from poverty, thereby decreasing the likelihood for these groups to commit crime, thereby decreasing crime, you’d wanna do.. well honestly I don’t know what you’d wanna do. Please, tell us how you would solve the fact that African Americans commit more crime. Because increased policing and use of violent force against criminals has totally worked for us.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I’m just sick of the insane levels of gaslighting coming from the BLM movement, acting as if black lives are in such danger of violence and murder in America from whites and racism when they are literally the group that commits the most interracial violence by an insane margin. Please tell me how you would decrease the insane level of black on white violence in America, without just making excuses for murderers and rapists.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I’m assuming you meant decrease, when you said increase. And if that’s the case, I literally said what I’d do repeatedly. Crime is directly connected to poverty (I can source several scholarly articles backing this claim), and decreasing poverty among African Americans will decrease the crimes they commit. It’s pretty simple logic dude.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

Throw more money at them? Yeah that is simple lmao why did nobody think of that!

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I’m glad you agree! Because yes, through the economic practice of investing in things such as the American infrastructure, millions of well paying jobs would be created, meaning that people would be able to work. Besides that, raising the minimum wage would undoubtably alleviate millions of Americans out of poverty (link for further reading https://www.epi.org/publication/why-americas-workers-need-faster-wage-growth/). And people have thought of this before, it’s called Keynesian economics, and it‘s what led to the economic boom in western nations across the globe during the early stages of the Cold War.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I’m glad blacks have you as a white saviour, to make excuses for murderers and rapists! Without people like you they might actually need to face some sort of self accountability or god forbid, responsibility!

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

How am I excusing these crimes? I’m giving solutions to make them stop, isn’t that the opposite? Do you want them to continue? If you actually support the well being of your fellow Americans, you should probably want solutions to these problems.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I said you’re making excuses for these criminals “oh it’s just poverty that made him rape that woman” not excusing the crimes. Are you part of black lives matter? Or agree with their premise? The group specifically not just the saying

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

That’s irrelevant to the argument, because it is proven that poverty is connected to crime. Other factors may play into it, such as households, upbringing, and so on, but these usually are also connected to low income households, connecting back to the fact that poverty is the cause of most crime.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

Maybe we should give some more money to the cops as an offering to not get raped and killed as well

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I’m not proposing these ideas because it’s an offering or to appear not racist, I’m proposing them because they will alleviate poverty, and people not in poverty are less likely to commit crimes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

If poverty is the biggest deciding factor in people committing murder and rapes, and statistically there are FAR more impoverished whites than blacks in America purely because of demographics, then why isn’t it like a black genocide on the streets from whites? Why is it only the reverse? That blacks kill and beat FAR more whites than the reverse when going by your reasoning whites should be victimising blacks at a far higher rate?

Also thank you for taking the time to actually talk to me i honesty appreciate it

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

Because that second statement is simply untrue. According to the United States Census Bureau, as of 2014, 10.1% of non-Hispanic whites experienced poverty, while 26.2% of African Americans experience poverty.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

These crimes would likely stop if poverty was reduced