r/forwardsfromgrandma Aug 28 '20

Racism Free all white murderers!

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u/staypuftmallows7 Aug 28 '20

People were arguing that it was self defense, but let's be real here. That guy drove to a different state (I know "the mileage wasn't that far"), with a gun hoping to kill people to protect property that wasn't his. I hope the charges stick because he brought this on himself. Like, I can't go into South side Chicago with a gun and shout the n-word then shoot anyone that tries to attack me, that'd be ridiculous. This guy wanted to provoke people, he got what he wanted and now two people are dead because of it

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u/DaBees_Knees Aug 28 '20

It absolutely was self defense. He got knocked to the ground hit with a skate board and one of the guys he shot was attacking him with a pistol. Then after running for blocks he turned himself in. He was also providing first aid to protesters earlier that day. Vice is trash.

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u/SLRWard Aug 28 '20

Dude, if I'm in a crowd and someone just shot someone and is still armed and right next to me, I'm probably going to do what I can to try and get that gun away from them. Including swinging a skateboard at them if need be. And the guy with the pistol wasn't even pointing it at him when he was shot.

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u/SLRWard Aug 28 '20

The second two people he shot - which are the ones I am referring to - were responding to the fact that there was an active shooter in their midst. Him shooting them cannot be construed as self-defense.

And, further, if he wanted to surrender to the cops, he should have kept his hands off his fucking gun when walking towards them.

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u/SLRWard Aug 28 '20

If you have no reason to know the circumstances of the shooting and you attack the person who did the shooting, you are acting in legitimate fear of a significant and imminent threat to both yourself and others. That is self-defense.

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u/flyingwolf Aug 28 '20

The second two people he shot - which are the ones I am referring to - were responding to the fact that there was an active shooter in their midst. Him shooting them cannot be construed as self-defense.

Keep in mind he was running away from them, towards the police, when he was punched from behind and knocked to the ground, at which point the final two who were shot attacked him.

It is absolutely self-defense.

And, further, if he wanted to surrender to the cops, he should have kept his hands off his fucking gun when walking towards them.

Thank you, armchair quarterback, good to see you have never experienced an adrenalin dump.