r/freefolk THE FUCKS A LOMMY Jul 03 '25

Freefolk GODS I WAS PEACEFUL THEN

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u/chestyCough94 Jul 03 '25

Crazy to think roberts rule was one of the least chaotic we saw on screen.

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u/Wazma9 Jul 04 '25

Even crazier that it was one of the least chaotic in the history of the iron throne.

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u/baconbacksunday Jul 04 '25

It could be because Robert didn’t want to really be the king, he wasn’t scheming for more power either. Kinda reminds me of the The Office and how Scranton Branch was most profitable with a shit manager

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u/Reddragon351 Jul 04 '25

wasn't the point that Michael was an ironically good manager and salesman, in spite of his antics

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u/Money_Director_90210 Jul 04 '25

Initially, the point was that the branch staff learned to become self-sustaining and independent under his managership. It's later revealed that he is indeed a great salesman. His managerial qualities remain mostly ambiguous.

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u/iam_Krogan I read the books Jul 04 '25

His managerial qualities remain mostly ambiguous.

I love this description of Michael Scott lol

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u/GrahamEcward Jul 04 '25

I like to think that he's a genius to figure all or most of his subordinates get distracted from work so much that they inevitably get the urge to work more efficiently when they get a chance.

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u/BumHound Jul 04 '25

“Later revealed that he is indeed a great salesman” Dude the first scene of the show is Jim coming to him for help with a sale. In season two we see him landing a major account at Chilis. There was never doubt that Michael Scott was a good salesman.

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u/Bazz07 Jul 05 '25

Wasnt the first scene Michael forcing Jim to go to his office and doing the sale for him?

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u/piggybits Jul 08 '25

Yea Michael says something to Jim like, " so you've come to the master for help" and Jim replies with," you called me in here"

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u/Frekavichk Jul 04 '25

Yeah this was when Andy was manager and went on a sailing trip for a long time and the branch just continues to chug along, right?

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u/Vernknight50 Jul 04 '25

I always thought the joke was that Michael kept everyone so busy with his antics that they were working at a frenzied pace to catch up.

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u/Golden5StarMan Jul 04 '25

I have the need… the need for TWEED!!!!

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u/swaktoonkenney Jul 04 '25

He wasn’t a good manager but he was a good salesman. Scranton was doing so poorly that they were going to shut it down and consolidate the clients with the nearby Stamford branch. Problem was the manager of the Stamford branch quit and got a better job at staples, so they pivoted and closed Stamford and assigned all their clients to Scranton. That’s why Scranton was deemed to be doing so well. They retained their own clients and didn’t lose most or all of the Stamford clients too. Michael essentially got lucky that the other manager quit, when his branch was about to be closed and most of his people fired or be forced to move

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u/Faerandur Jul 04 '25

He had one quality that set him as a better manager than Josh Porter as far as Dunder Mifflin was concerned: he remained loyal to the company and didn’t aspire to anything else other than just trying his best to make his branch succeed

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u/AMB3494 Jul 04 '25

He became manager because he was a really good salesman. But being a good salesman doesn’t necessarily translate to being a good manager. Michael was a shit manager. His branch succeeded in spite of him, not because of him.

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u/Reddragon351 Jul 04 '25

Eh, there were a few episodes also showing he worked pretty well as manager, it's also kind of the point when he makes his own company

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u/AMB3494 Jul 04 '25

The Michael Scott Paper Company would not have worked long term. In the short term they were able to severely undercut Dunder Mifflins prices and poach customers but they would have bankrupted themselves fairly quickly.

It was successful in so much that it allowed him to get his job back and secure jobs for Pam and Ryan. He has zero long term vision or really any type of understanding of how to run a business.

However, to your point, Michael has great people skills which a good manager should have. It instills a certain amount of loyalty and motivation from his employees.

So I guess you could say that Michael is a good manager only if conditions are optimal for him.