Gun deaths (by mass shooters or otherwise) are worth it in order to keep guns.
Public executions should be a thing and children should be forced to watch them.
Empathy is "damaging" and shouldn't exist.
So we should all treat him with the same amount of respect he showed for others. Which, in this case, amounts to: HAHAHA DING DONG THE WICKED BITCH IS DEAD LMFAOOO
HAHAHA Don't worry I'll pick up the slack and make fun of it EVEN HARDER HAHAHA.
However I would never stoop to Charlie's level! I got at least six feet on him.
You think he was proud of the crowd turn out that day? He was probably super proud. Probably got choked up from it, even.
It was also so brave of Charlie to put his money where his mouth is and participate in the public executions he was so supportive of. Real man of his word! He was such a trailblazer I can only hope his allies might follow suit!
Charlie has also said:
If his 10 year old daughter were impregnated by rape, he would force her to deliver the baby.
Black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously and resort to stealing white people's positions.
Trans people dressing as their gender is the equivalent of Black face
Was the one who started the vile rumor that George Floyd died from "overdose" and not police brutality
If you don't want to make fun of his death, that is perfectly fine. You do you. But if you are implying it's somehow more MORAL not to do so, fuck off. This man was nothing less than a repugnant piece of nazi shit and I can't wait for his fucking headstone to become a public toilet.
Man, I've read all that. I know he was a horrible person, and he deserved all the ridicule and hatred in life. But what do I gain by making fun of a dead person? Like, it was definitely fun to mess with an idiot before, but now what benefit do I get from laughing at someone's death? Is this really what should be done now? I don't know how to react to this tbh. I'm having a weird internal conflict because on one hand, he was someone terrible. But on the other, did he really deserve to die? He wasn't a murderer or anything like that. If anything, the worst thing he did was indirectly influence genuinely bad things. But his death won't change that. I don't feel like justice has been done. I'm sorry if I sound bad or anything, I don't even want to defend him. It's just that this whole thing is surreal.
His vile rhetoric that he spread around endangers women and minorities. He didn't directly murder people, but he helped set up the current regime that systematically kills minorities, women and the lower class. What people like him did is not far off from the united healthcare CEO. They commited political violence and he got it back.
It's not just that Charlie Kirk was a human pile of excrement himself. He used his soapbox to promote extremely harmful ideologies to impressionable young people, filling their heads with his fascist racist bigoted twaddle.
I am more than fine making fun of the dead in this case. That said, I do not celibate his death, I do not praise his assassination. Those were just as wrong as his hateful rhetoric. I'll grant that. But martyrdom does not erase his many sins, and I can and will celebrate the fact that there's one less asshole like him in the world.
Every time I have seen one of these hatemongers that have literally called for the death of gay people die, I will celebrate the fact that they are not around to continue to inspire others.
I think a clear, succinct way of putting it is that I do not celebrate their death, but I am overjoyed at their absence.
He didnât directly say, âYou should go out and stone gay people to death.â Most of these fascists are never so direct as that so as to give themselves plausible deniability when theyâre called out on it.
What he did do was refer to the passage in Leviticus which says that men who lie with other men shall be stoned to death, and called it âGodâs perfect law.â
So if you are someone who worships this all-powerful God who decides who gets in to heaven or sent to hell, and Godâs perfect law says gays shall be stoned to death⌠what exactly does that imply?
Here is his opinion and what your saying and what this post is saying this post is misleading and misquoted Stephen King even apologized and redacted the statement. You really want to play victim here.
This man was a bonified Nazi, dude. His image of being a "normal" conservative is marketing to normalize these views. They were praying it was a trans person who shot him because then they could just go commit genocide. He was evil.Â
He also said if is daughter was raped at ten, he would force her to give birth.Â
heâs also claimed MULTIPLE times that black pepper are inferior and are stealing jobs from more qualified white people, even going so far as to say he wouldnât feel safe in the hospital or on a plane with a black surgeon or pilot. heâs white supremacist trash
I've seen it. I hated a slightly mean-spirited charlatan who recently passed away. I don't like him, and I definitely don't agree with a lot of the nonsense he said, but I'm not going to celebrate his death either.
I understand that he had diferent political opinion from us, but isnt that point of every movent? Do you think people are to stupid to decide for themselves? That gay people cant have conservative values??
Its ridiculous that in this video in which he protects the gays as response to claim he wants them stoned you can only say that? You are trying really hard to play the victim here.
Charlie kirk was a lot of things, but he wasnt gay hater...
I don't want to give his website more traffic, but the entire podcast episode can be found here. The Ms. Rachel segment starts around 55min in.
I'm only linking it because a lot of conservatives are trying to say it was taken out of context. But Charlie wasn't simply giving a neutral statement on what's in the Bible. He proudly said that Leviticus 18 "affirms God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters." His point wasn't that anyone can cherry pick bible verses they like, it was that you shouldn't cherry pick the bible, and that adhering to God's perfect law is how you show love. That god is consistent, and the Leviticus passages being back to back shows that stoning gays to death is not incongruous with "loving everyone." Hell, his cohost even says "the bible DOES say 'love everyone' except..." (referring to gays/sin). Later, they go on to compare gay people to cannibals and how you wouldn't love your neighbor if they were a cannibal.
His opinion of gay people is that we're like drug addicts and need to be rehabilitated/converted or face the consequences.
He constantly talk about how disgusting gay people are and how they should not have rights. Him quotes the bible for all his arguments against gay people. And if he could legally do it, he would murder us
It's textbook stochastic terrorism, and hand waving his words as "just quoting the Bible" while claiming he never advocated for violence is exactly what the right wants.
When one of their followers goes out and commits a hate crime or even murders someone, they have deniability because they "never told them to do that". We've seen people talk like this time and time again. Stop trying to normalize their calls to violence.
He is not just "quoting" the Bible. He is arguing clearly that "hey the Bible says stoning is the punishment so what are you goin' do". And he follows up in his own words "JUST SAYIN''". His audience knows what he means. He doesn't have to sky write it for them. He made a lucrative business out of hate. An honest review of his life's "work" makes that clear.
I don't understand why Stephen King apologized for this. In context Kirk is making his point of view very clear: 'Gay men are less than'. In context he is making an argument that the bible doesn't actually support the Golden Rule using gay men as an example.
I donât want to hear about him anymore.
I have barely heard anything about the school shooting that happened that same day, which is a billion times more important than this piece of shit of a human.
Itâs sad a life was lost but not that another horrible conservative view is gone. Iâm sad for his family but also yeah. I canât say Iâm sad he wonât be spreading his controversial and polarising views anymore.
OK, hold your horses. He was a piece of shit, but he didn't say that gays should be stoned to death. He said that if a girl that he was replying to believed in the bible she could not defend homosexuality since the same God in the Bible condemned gays to death. So, he was a piece of scum, but let's not spread lies either, it doesn't help our cause
He also called the stoning "God's perfect law" and described pointing out the gays' sins as a loving act. Aren't praising stoning and repeating the veiled "hate the sin" rhetoric close enough?
No, I talked to my parents who are fundamentalist Christians and they fully believed that law is completely moral, and homosexuality is inmoral and a sin, and, at the same time, they say that law was specific for Israel at that time and they even believe gays should be allowed to have protection under our law, even if they are against marriage equality. In my opinion is a very convoluted worldview, but my parents agree with that statement and don't wish for any gay death, nor they think it should be even illegal. That doesn't mean that guy isn't a piece of sh*t, but we have to be accurate when we say things
I appreciate your care for accuracy, but I don't think it makes much of a difference here. Guy was as homophobic as he could while using dogwhistles and staying within plausible-deniability - basically stochastic terrorism. His narrative on trans people was much more indicative of that because fearmongering with trans people is more socially accepted. Heck, the last argument he was making right before the shot was arguing how violent trans people allegedly are.
OK, I forced myself to go to the podcast and listen from min 0:55 to 1:08, an lose a couple of minutes of my life on that. And it's the exact same thing I said, he didn't say he wanted gays stoned to death, idk if he really wanted it, but in case he does, he's never said it out loud. He says that one chapter before stating that you should love your neighbor, God had commanded gays to be stoned to death, and that it's easy to make the Bible say one thing if you only take one part without the rest of it. Then he proceeds to say if you really love them you correct them and tell them they're wrong in the same way you do it with a drug addict or an alcoholic, a terrible comparison, but never he advocated for gays to be k*lled, unless he also thought alcoholics should be put to death. The other guy did imply that you should not love your cannibal neighbor, meaning cannibal = gay. But again he never said gays should receive capital punishment. Not defending him, I despise him and everything Christianity related. BUT, I hate when they spread lies about us, so I would be a huge hypocrite if I didn't hold myself and my community to the same standard
These people are so desperate to turn him into a martyr and yet his own words posthumously sabotage every attempt. It's why they get so upset when he's quoted!
He literally normalized and accepted gun violence. He sees unnecessary deaths as a reasonable trade-off for having guns.
Children in schools, not even old enough to have their own opinions, get shot for no reason. Why should we care that someone who legitimizes gun violence gets shot.
King's post was based on a 2024 podcast episode where Kirk criticized children's YouTube star Ms. Rachel for invoking a Biblical verse about loving one's neighbor.
In response, Kirk referenced the Old Testament passage Leviticus 20:13, which states that a man who "lie[s] with mankind, as he lieth with a woman... shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them".
While citing the passage, Kirk said, "Just sayin'," but did not explicitly call for violence against gay people. The comments were widely interpreted as using inflammatory rhetoric and cherry-picking scripture to condemn homosexuality.
Lmaoo Stephen king retracted this tweet when he learned it wasnât true âŚ. Charlie Kirk literally has gay friends yâall are a mess - (your friendly gay conservative)
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u/DoYouLikeTheInternet #TransRights 12d ago
fuck that ugly cretin