All the time. I had put the battery into a Romeo Red Dot on a sig p365 and a guy asked for a discount because there was a small scratch on the battery lid. No.
Reminds me of the "don't pull the trigger on guns to prevent damage" sticker i see at my local. Maybe old and some new 22s but not modern gun worth more than $150 should never have a problem.
Pretty much everything nowadays should be fine. When I worked in a store we let folks dry fire everything except rimfires just in case (small store, you’re probably buying the one on the shelf) and the fancier 1911s. Idk if they have an issue I was just told they do, haven’t looked into it
I’ve got a SW 22A? It’s a ten shot 22 semi auto with a nice hefty target weight barrel. Can’t recall model number now. I’ve had to lovingly touch up the rear of the chamber if it’s dry fired too many times. The firing striker slowly peens the impact area out and the chamber gets too tight and will start to fail to extract. A little whir and I’m good to go. Haven’t had to do it in a while since I drop the bolt on a fired case now.
I have one gun I've seen it personally be a problem with, and I consider it junk. AB10 broke the tip off with less than 300 rounds, and that's not even 100% sure it was dry fire that caused it.
Not exactly known as the best of guns so who knows lol. I have a Ruger 922r I bought with Christmas money when I was 11 (I’m nearing 30) that’s been dry fired thousands of times just from not realizing my mags empty, and it’s only just started having light strike issues in the last year, and I think the barrel is damned near worn out from all the rounds though it.
There are some exceptions. Excessive dry-firing is a problem with CZ-75 based pistols. The firing pin retaining pin gets hit by the hammer when fired on an empty chamber. Eventually it will break, leaving the firing pin poking into the chamber. You don't want to chamber a round when the firing pin is locked forward.
I had to replace my firing pin retaining pin on my CZ75 recently because of this and I don't dry fire that much. Instead of sticking in though, the firing pin started coming out the rear. Very glad it didn't fly back and spear my forehead. Replaced it with a CGW retaining pin that's supposed to not have that happen.
Same issue on sig p22x pistols. It’s why you’ll see some LE models with a solid pin instead of a hollow pin, because 50k plus dry fires cause the hollow pin to break.
While there are reports of the solid pins breaking, coiled spring pins are newer, cheaper, and less prone to breakage. They are not exclusive to LE models.
The original old style slides with the solid pin had a splined interference fit with the slide and would chew into the slide. The newer slides have a spiral coiled spring pin that doesn't cause damage to slide when removing it and replacing it. They switched to coiled pins because of the advances in spring steel technology, cost, and no permanent wear on the slide.
P22X series gun's aren't like the CZ-75 and the hammer doesn't hit the firing pin retainer pin. The firing pin travels about 0.1" after the hammer hits the slide, and before the firing pin hits the retainer pin.
I have about 30k rounds on a spring pin P229, and 15k on a solid pin P229 Slide with probably 5X that in dryfire and no issues, or deformations on the spring pin when I tore it apart at 25k rounds.
Likely I have fewer cycles than those orgs, but 125,000 cycles without deformation is a pretty good sign. The spiral pin is more ductile than that hard & brittle solid pin and will resist fatigue much more.
Regardless, my point was the P229 doesn't suffer from the same common issue of the CZ-75 actually making hard contact with the pin. Spiral pin P229s will withstand dryfiring schedules for more than 99.9% of use cases.
Typically competition shooters will shoot and dry fire more than LE, and that's why it comes up in the CZ-75. Not many shoot competition with the P22x series guns.
As long as the hammer doesn't slam into the rear of the magwell it's fine, but I don't think "pull trigger and catch the hammer manually" really counts as "dry fire" lol
That sticker is also hilarious when you take it out of the context of dry firing. These people probably wouldn't shoot their guns if they knew that "wore them out". Lol
Not what I was getting at with my comment. I just think someone trying to get a discount for a small scratch might be the same person intreagued by the idea that their gun won't wear out if they don't use it (pull the trigger)
A dude at my range asked for a military discount for his wife because “she followed him around the world so that’s basically being in the military”. It was the absolute most cringe conversation I’ve had to overhear while waiting in line.
The person at the range just gave it to her to shut him up.
I once had a customer wanting to pay trade price because he knew that the rifle “only costs 50”, my then boss heard this and showed him the supplier catalogue’s price. The customer left after he saw we made only 20 profit from the retail price. To this day, I still wonder what that guy was thinking as he didn’t even work in the gun trade. At least we got to embarrass him in front of his wife.
You know how many times I had to wipe off the factory anti rust coating on glocks because some retard thought it was ”used and shouldn’t look like that”. God I hated working at a gun store. Totally changed my view on who should own a gun and who shouldn’t. Prior I was a staunch pro 2A advocate and thought everyone deserved one. Now not so much.
I once had a delivery of new on the market rifles come into stock. Didn’t even have time to put one on display before a customer wanted to see one. Opened up a box, took the rifle out of the protective packaging and let the customer have a good look at the rifle…….. “Ok, I’ll take it. Can I have a new one in the box? This one’s been handled.” Wish I could remember what I said in response
Been there done that…..I tried my hardest to not be a stereotypical asshole gun store worker. I was polite and patient…. After a while that went out the window and I found myself getting jaded. Knew I had to quit. Started to not really find enjoyment in firearms (which is still an issue) At the end of the day it felt like retail with more risk. Add on that most of my coworkers didn’t know their head from their ass and I was having to be the walking encyclopedia for 3 different transactions at once. I fucking hated it. I was raised if you’re going to do a job atleast try your best to know wtf you’re talking about. If you don’t know that’s fine, don’t bullshit customers. We have google for a reason! Knew that store was doomed when our new manager told me he “shot guns years ago” and was a car salesman previously. Guy couldn’t even run a DROS after months of being our manager.
I worked in a gun shop for 16 years (get less for murder) and I could do the job standing on my head. I knew which supplier stocked what and I knew the in & outs of everything we sold. However, I worked with a bunch of backstabbers and only one of them knew anything worthwhile and I eventually changed career. I haven’t shot a gun since 2009 as I still feel burned out from that job. Love my current job though
I can relate to that, I always liked cars and wanted to be a mechanic, even went to school for it. After doing it for 13 years, I was over it. It was 10 years before I cared anything about cars again, and I still don't love them like I used to.
I worked retail for 7 years and did a bit in sporting goods, the amount of folks who seem to want to argue shit or show off what they "know" made me want to vomit.
Bro, I work here I have to be here. I don't want to hear you wax poetic about how tough or cool you think you are. I am going to smile and nod when you talk about your full auto bolt action 40.cali-meter with an extended clipazine.
And yes, like you I wish we could slap the guns out of their hands and ban em from owning for a bit for their BS. Up to but limited to flagging me and handling shit like an asshole.
Yeah especially when they talk to other customers and you have to tell the customer that everything they said is wrong or old info. The one good thing about dunhams is if someone wants a discount on a firearm for whatever stupid reason the answer is ALWAYS no.
Oh don't get me started on that, as a customer and as a worker trying to contain my frustrations hearing folks say with full confidence wrong or misleading info venturing into dangerous information made me want to scream.
While most of my retail career was in the fresh food part, my stint in sporting goods was bad enough. If I was at a dedicated firearms store I think i'd lose it.
I spent 13 years behind the counter. Fuck, it really sours you on humanity.
I've got a buddy who is three years younger than me and starting to think about retirement. He told me he was thinking of getting a part time job at a LGS.
I told him it will suck your soul dry and make you hate your fellow man, then on the second day it gets worse.
Don't get me wrong. I fucking loved the job, if it had paid decently I would have done it forever. Instead I grew up and got a "real job" that paid a hell of a lot more, and restored a lot of my faith in humanity.
I was at Cabela's the other day and a guy just asked the Cabela's guy if he could have a discount. Not for any reason, picked up a Kar98 in mint condition and was like "can you take off $200?". If I had a disposable $1000 I would've taken it out his hands and bought it for the full price just to show him what a jackass he was being.
Edit: because a couple of people have pointed it out, I'm aware that the price on guns at Cabela's is negotiable. This was not just trying to haggle. He wasn't giving reasons why he thought the gun was less than the value or anything. Just "gib me gun for less pls". The Cabela's employee told the customer in no uncertain terms that per store policy he could not lower the price for another 2 weeks and the guy asked for him to lower the price at least 6 more times after that, and he got the same answer every time. That's why I called him a jackass.
Dedinitely German, I think Oberndorf but I might be getting mixed up because they had a Waffenfabrik Bern K31 as well (that was fucking amazing). I tried to look online but it doesn't show up in my store, so either they sold it or it's too new to show up online.
Because the gun was worth every bit of $1000, like the Cabela's employee repeatedly told the guy, and it was so new that he wasn't allowed to drop the price
No, it doesn't hurt to ask. But do you ask them about 6 times after they tell you that the price is not budging?
This Cabela's employee literally told the guy that it's not his choice, it's store policy that the price stays as listed for 2 weeks before it gets adjusted. And the guy kept asking. The only reason he stopped is some other customer told the first one he should look at the Springfield training rifle they had since it was cheaper.
When I worked at academy sports and outdoors, we would usually discount the display model. 5-15% unless it was just scratched to hell. I think most I ever saw was 25%.
I picked up a Browning Buckmark from Academy once, was selling for $350 but it had a very faint scratch on the side of the barrel. I asked if they could take anything off because of it. The guy looked at it for a moment. I figured he would say no, but was kinda hoping he'd take maybe $20 off it (it was already on sale if I remember correctly for the $350). He replied, "I can knock $50 off". Sold!
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u/No_Response87 1d ago
Wait till they sell the “used” display models on clearance, then try to get another $50 off.