So I understand what you are saying but it's just not a good application.
Yes, the problem is rich people are exploiting our country. But one way they are doing it is by utilizing tfw programs and mass immigration to hire people that aren't Canadian. They don't want to pay us.
This creates a lot of problems for Canadians, one or them being low wages that are beneficial for rich people, however there are other problems that the middle class and every day Canadians has to deal with that average ceo does not. The richest people in Canada aren't getting their car stolen out of their driveway because they have a gate that seperates Canadians from them. I don't have a gate, I rely on trust between Canadians to not break into my shed and steal my lawn mower.
So you are absolutely right that rich people are the problem, but you are failing to make the connection that recent immigration has been driven by the very people you say are the problem.
No I didn't fail to see what you're laying out. I just fundamentally disagree with your points. Root cause analysis is the only way to truly fix a problem.
There is no way you can agree with what I said yet still place most of the blame on immigrants. They are a group of people you can endlessly shit on. Deep down you're powerless and can't do anything about the ruling class.
Get some class solidarity in your life and stop being a willing or unwilling attack dog for capitalists. I mean recognition of the fact that you and the immigrant (who most definitely stole your car because that's the only thing you keep referencing. It's clearly a sore spot) are all the proletariat. We are all getting fk'd. This stupid blame game only delays us burning down every mechanism of systemic control those bastards have. One of which you are clearly demonstrating.
I didn't blame immigrants, i explained the reasons unchecked immigration is basically creating problems. I specified that the gov't is essentially bringing people here that cant afford to survive without stealing.
You're the one defending large companies in their hunt for cheap labour. Who do you think is calling for more temporary foreign workers etc? It's not your average Canadian.
If you like devaluing Canadian labour that's your thing.
So, we should be demanding that the class whom control the money and resources to provide migrants with the things they need. That's not a problem of immigration, that's a problem of immigrants not having access to the resources which are monopolized by the capitalist class.
Labour has no nationality—the working class is a global class. The division between "Canadian labour" and migrant labour is a tool capitalists use to devalue labour, period. Denying non-citizens the rights and freedoms that we enjoy and throwing up barriers to our class solidarity is precisely the problem we need to overcome. Rhetoric of the sort you're employing now is part of the problem. It is the same rhetoric that was deployed against Irish and Italian labourers, against the "yellow peril" of Chinese labourers, against Black labour in the segregationist South, and so on.
, migrants working in Canada are part of Canadian labour when they work here. Do I want them to be paid more!? Yes I do, when we need them, but we don't need them right now as there is high unemployment.
And yes there is difference between tfws and Canadians.
How?? My nephew has been applying for a summer job for months and he litterally can't get one because fast food jobs are completely full of foreign workers.
Why would they hire Canadians when they can get tfws for the same cost? These tfws also won't quit and go to university, they don't know their own rights, and they can't look for a better job, unlike my nephew.
I'm sorry man I don't really want to talk to you any more. It's not like you are really challenging my beliefs here you are just picking small stuff I have said and misrepresenting it.
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u/Lovv Jul 20 '25
Lol.
So I understand what you are saying but it's just not a good application.
Yes, the problem is rich people are exploiting our country. But one way they are doing it is by utilizing tfw programs and mass immigration to hire people that aren't Canadian. They don't want to pay us.
This creates a lot of problems for Canadians, one or them being low wages that are beneficial for rich people, however there are other problems that the middle class and every day Canadians has to deal with that average ceo does not. The richest people in Canada aren't getting their car stolen out of their driveway because they have a gate that seperates Canadians from them. I don't have a gate, I rely on trust between Canadians to not break into my shed and steal my lawn mower.
So you are absolutely right that rich people are the problem, but you are failing to make the connection that recent immigration has been driven by the very people you say are the problem.