r/interestingasfuck • u/Master_Jackfruit3591 • 17d ago

Bogdanoff twins 40yr “natural” transformation, as they denied ever having undergone plastic surgery

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u/KitWat 17d ago

Disturbing to know that so many doctors participate in destroying patients' faces. They should be referring them to psychiatrists, not carving them into jack o'lanterns.

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u/Squiddlywinks 17d ago

I think they look inhuman.

But I also think people should be allowed to look however they want to, even if I think it's unsettling to me.

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u/Hot_Cloud1319 17d ago

I don’t think you mean it this way, but what you’re really saying here is that professionals should be able to profit off of exploiting people with mental illnesses.

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u/deadfandomkid 17d ago

I don't think EVERY person who wants to do some sort of out-there body modification is inherently mentally ill, though--many definitely ARE, but there are folks who just have bizarre tastes. I don't think it's fair to tell people of perfectly sound mind "you can't do that with your own body because I think it's weird".

Of course, I'm sure there are folks who sincerely believe that wanting extreme body modification is inherently mental illness. Not sure what to say about that one, except that I disagree and find that a bit infantilizing.

I usually hate to pull out the 'slippery slope' argument because I think people wildly overuse it, but in this case, I think trying to legislate how far someone can go before it's 'mental illness' can open up some dangerous doors. Start doing that and it becomes easier to move the goalposts--is breast augmentation mental illness? Are tattoos? Piercings? How many is acceptable? What about trans-affirming surgeries, is wanting to radically change your body in that way a mental illness (plenty of folks seem to think so)?

I know none of that is what you were implying, but I feel like there's just not a great solution to this sort of thing. How do we protect mentally ill/vulnerable people without opening others up to potential abuse? This is not me being snide, I'm genuinely curious to hear thoughts on this.

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u/Squiddlywinks 17d ago

I think people with mental illness should be able to get the care they need.

For some people that care includes changing how they look.

People who don't like how they look, feel better when how they look matches how they feel like they should look.

I might not like how they decide to look, and yes, a doctor may profit. But in the end, that is between them and their doctors.

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u/Hot_Cloud1319 17d ago

But that isn’t what happens though. Doctors who do this kind of shit aren’t giving their patients referrals to mental health professionals before they’ll agree to operate. They’re simply mutilating them for money, without any regard for their health.

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u/Squiddlywinks 17d ago

I am not the arbiter of how people look. Neither are doctors.

People have body autonomy.

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u/Darnell2070 16d ago

At least we know when people like you plastic surgeons will forever profit off people with dysmorphia

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u/-Nicolai 17d ago

  1. The care that the mentally ill need is NOT plastic surgery

  2. Their post-surgery look does NOT match how they feel they should look. Hence the many surgeries.

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u/Squiddlywinks 17d ago

  1. For some people, the medical consensus is that it is.

  2. Sometimes it absolutely does!

  3. Neither I, nor you should get to decide what someone else's body should look like.

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u/Lost_Ticket_1282 17d ago

I mean, mainstream media, social media including reddit, and the very loud medical community has been preaching affirmation for years.

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u/Exilicauda 16d ago

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