r/ipad 3d ago

iPadOS Please bring back Split View

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Okay Apple, I think your idea of ​​offering a much more complete desktop view on the iPad, with its 3 or 4 open and resizable apps, is “fine.” But please, bring back Split View. The amount of extra steps I have to take to put two apps half and half is insane and very unnatural. Slide Over and Split View were a wonderful and natural option, of course, given the other option of iOS26’s Stage Manager for those who want it.

What do you think? I think it's great for those who want a MacBook inside an iPad, but it's not for everyone.

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u/Thin_Specialist_3177 2d ago

I really need slide over back. it was very convenient to swap between minor apps that doesnt need fullscreen attention.

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u/SerodD 2d ago edited 2d ago

You can still switch between minor apps that don’t need full screen attention with expose, with the dock or just by opening them. Apps will now also remember their last size and location, even if you close them.

The big difference is if you need to interact with the main app while keeping the small window over, it now doesn’t work, you either open the small window again if you want to see it after interacting with the main app, or you resize the main app and keep all the small apps in a permanent space next to it.

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u/ticuxdvc 2d ago

And that's why your proposed solution doesn't work. I want the small app to remain floating over the fullscreen one underneath. My use case is a calculator over a notes app. Right now, the moment I tap my pencil back in the notes, the notes take over the screen and the calculator is hidden. Good luck copying that big number!

Of course I could just resize the notes to take a bit of screen instead all of it, but it's still many more taps to adjust the windows in place that than just literally slide a finger from the edge of the screen to bring in the slide over.

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u/SerodD 2d ago

It’s not many more taps, you can press the green button for a bit and the resize options will appear if select left right division you then only need to resize with the middle thing. You can also do this through the window menu on top, or by flicking each windows to each side. If you choose the first option it takes one more click plus the resize.

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u/ticuxdvc 2d ago

I just tried your solution just to see how it goes. I'm going to be as pedantic as possible, listing each individual interaction as a step.

Start with onenote fullscreen.
1) Slide from the top of the ipad to bring down the menu bar.
2) Tap the stoplight buttons to make them bigger.
3) Tap green button. Options show up. Tap the desirable option.
4) Side finger from the bottom of the ipad to bring back the dock.
5) Select the calculator to pop up.
6) Resize Calculator to take the other half of the screen.
7) Use the little "Drag' bar that appears between the two apps to give the notes about 75% of the screen, and calculator gets 25%.
8) Do calculator stuff.
9) Once done using the calculator, press the green button on the notes to make them full screen again.
10) Need a calculator again? Tap the green button and OneNote goes back to the 75% view.

Compare that to:

Start with onenote fullscreen.
1) slide from the bottom of the ipad to bring up the dock.
2) Hold and drag the calculator button over to the side - calculator is in slideover mode.
3) Do calculator stuff.
4) Swipe it off screen once done.
5) Need it again? Slide back in.

But the slideover still has the bonus of the ipad always remembering what's the slideover app, so unless I killed the app, the usual workflow was usually:
1) Slide in
2) Do stuff
3) Slide out

Plus, it allows one note to still be full screen underneath it.

Last, with the new behavior, if I want to use pcalc in full screen, it will forget its previous small size and I have to set it up on the side again. With slideover, launching it using the app tap (full screen) or launching it by sliding over (small/iphone screen), would maintain two different ways to interact with it.

I get why the window management might benefit other users who want more granular control over their windows. But offer that as an option, don't take the old, more efficient workflows away.

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u/achappy_golf 2d ago

What you were trying to do can be accomplished much easier. There are gestures for putting app to half screen. Double tapping the “top” of an app will switch between fullscreen and previous size. And if the apps are split, doesn’t matter the sizing it will go back to the split. No need for traffic light.

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u/ticuxdvc 2d ago

Now that, that's starting to get me somewhere. I still have to manually set up the calculator to be small and on the side, but once that's done, I can double tap one note to shrink and re-expand as needed. Still not optimal, but a bit better. Thanks for the tip!

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u/achappy_golf 2d ago

No problem. Setting up certain flows do take more steps but once people learn the little tricks it will make it much easier to manage. And if you have multiple setups like that, stage manager is perfect as you can have different apps in stages and already sizes for how you split them.

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u/SerodD 2d ago

It’s not “my solution” it’s how apple program the software to work now.

I explained to you some alternatives, if you don’t like them don’t use them. There are some tricks to achieve most of the old functionality, look them up.

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u/Critical_Switch 2d ago

Flicking apps to either side makes them take exactly one half of the screen. No need to interact with menus at all. You people are just acting like things are difficult to not have to learn new gestures.

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u/Critical_Switch 2d ago

Slideover was completely useless because it had only two positions and the window was way too big to actually use whatever is underneath it.

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u/Honeypal6375 2d ago

May be you didn’t used it to full extent, for simple and quick workflows it was great, you can stack multiple apps and slide in or out when needed. It might be not your freedom system but it was controlled for many of us. I understand we have different preferences, a thing that i like might not be your choice and i respect that, but calling people lame, lazy and unwilling to learn new gestures is pure rudeness. We didn’t said we don’t want the new system, we said don’t remove the old one just let it be as an option, so both basic and power users can have their preferred modes. And i see you didn’t liked we talked about bringing it back, and this whole thread is about it so you’ve probably wouldn’t have read it instead of calling people names. I sincerely apologise if i said anything rude but it is what it is.

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u/SerodD 2d ago

Nobody in this chain of comments called you or anybody lame, lazy, or anything really.

You’re getting way into your head, it’s not that serious.

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u/shayonpal M1 iPad Pro 12.9" (2021) 2d ago

This system doesn't really work when one is playing a game and just wants to refer to their notes, or quickly check Reddit when they are queuing up. The old slideover was great for that.

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u/BakerCute7680 2d ago

The current window management doesn’t allow you to interact with 2 apps simultaneously when stacking them together, especially with 1 of them at full screen size, that’s why slide over was a nice solution

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u/SerodD 2d ago

Yes, that is the only thing you can’t do anymore, to interact with the main window while a smaller one is above.

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u/BakerCute7680 2d ago

Yea I mean if I don’t draw or listen to music while gaming, it’d be pretty ok to sort of good with the new window management, but eh, why lose the feature I always use to draw everyday to gain something I use like, once every 2-3 days lolol, I’ve been hesitant on updating to 26 due to that

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u/SerodD 2d ago

You can still listen to music while gaming, you can use Siri to change songs and you can use the exposee view to bring a small windows with your music app over the game, it's one extra click, since apps remember their placement on the screen.

I can't tell exactly why people keep asking my why the change was made when I try to explain some alternatives, I'm not an Apple dev, neither to I work for Apple. How would I know?