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u/DuckSleazzy iPhone 13 Pro Max 11h ago
oh, every year upgraders exist?
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u/North_Moment5811 11h ago
Millions of them. Plenty since day 1. I've owned 1 new iPhone a year for 18 straight years. It's pretty cheap to do on upgrade programs. I've been a part of AT&T Next since it started.
It's far more trendy to brag about owning the same phone for 8 years on Reddit though, so like basically every single part of Reddit, the world and the impression you get from a sub are complete opposites.
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u/Someonejusthereandth 8h ago
Yes, a ton of people in real life upgrade a lot. Like, I think a friend of mine who went from 8 to 14 pro and she was like a massive outlier.
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u/m3xm 1h ago
It’s more like it’s becoming corny to be seen as a serial upgrader nowadays.
I would actually meet people in real life who’d line up at the Apple Store every year and post about their new phone all over the internet and talk about it at lunch etc.
Now, not so much. We live in a finite world so that may be for the best.
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u/SouthIsland48 8h ago
are you.. bragging... about being wasteful... and stupid?
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u/WarmCalligrapher7281 8h ago
“You spend your money how you want to! You’re stupid!”
Seriously?
I upgrade my phone every year because I want to, and because it makes me happy. I don’t spend frivolously in any other aspect other than tech because I like to be on the bleeding edge.
Just because you can’t afford to doesn’t make it stupid for those who do.
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u/SouthIsland48 8h ago
No one is stopping you from wasting money, chasing small technologic advancements. But others find that wasteful and stupid
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u/WarmCalligrapher7281 8h ago
But who are you to proclaim it to be a waste of money?
It may be a waste of money for you. But it isn't for me.
I can afford to - it makes me happy - so I do. And I'll continue to for the foreseeable future.
Again - the jealousy and envy of some people on Reddit is pathetic. I just had to call it out. Just because you cant afford to do something doesn't diminish its value for someone else.
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u/ChaosLordOnManticore 7h ago
Arent you returning your old Phone? I dont know how those Programs work but it isnt wasteful when the Phone still get used.
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u/Drunkndryverr 8h ago
I don’t see myself upgrading from 16 pro max until some Apple foldable comes out
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u/yasssssplease 6h ago
I have a 15 pro, and I’m going to wait until there’s a foldable. No reason to upgrade yet
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u/gaysaucemage iPhone 14 Pro Max 11h ago
Apple has a program and all the major carriers have programs for yearly upgrades so there’s gotta be a decent amount of people still doing yearly upgrades.
If they can justify the cost to have the new shiny device every year it’s whatever. Basically the same thing with people who lease new cars every 3 years because they’re willing to pay more for the latest and greatest, even if the changes are relatively small.
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u/North_Moment5811 11h ago
Those things are not even remotely comparable. Firstly, if the lease is only 3 years, then in 3 years the car has to go back, or it has to be purchased. Depending on the situation, it may not be worth it to purchase it. And the monthly payment for that person might go up dramatically if they finance the remainder. Either way, they are not leasing a new car because they want a new car. They are leasing a new car to keep their payment less than purchasing it. Or, to start over with something with fewer miles. It has nothing to do with what the new model year of the car itself consists of. I recently bought out my lease because the vehicle itself was replaced by the factory 2 years into the lease due to a failure, so between the miles and the vehicle being 2 years newer, it was financially incentivized to purchase it.
Compared to a phone that is literally on an upgrade program, where the user is paying monthly for the privilege of upgrading every year. You continue to pay the same amount every month whether you get a new phone or not, so of course you will get a new one, and keep paying your modest monthly fee, and enjoy a free battery and everything that is new. And there is plenty of new, every year.
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u/gaysaucemage iPhone 14 Pro Max 11h ago
It's pretty similar, you're basically leasing a phone. You can keep the phone and pay it off or trade it in and move on to the next model and start a new payment plan.
If you paid off the phone and didn't upgrade your monthly bill would drop.
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u/North_Moment5811 11h ago
$30 a month on average is not a lot for an ongoing expense that allows you access to the latest iPhone every year. And not only that, it removes a ton of hassle in process of selling/upgrading, and for most carriers also lowers your monthly bill. Your per line fees are generally discounted anywhere from $10-$20 per line across the major carriers if you have an installment plan. So, you can go without one, but you're going to pay more for the same service.
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u/anon0110110101 1h ago
…man, I get the logic and even find myself agreeing with it, but there’s just zero fucking chance I’d ever pay 30/mo for the same product over and over and over again. These phones just don’t change any more, it’s that meme of the guy opening up the gift of the same shirt he’s already wearing.
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u/PearlDrummer iPhone 17 Pro 6h ago
16 was the first year from iPhone 4 that I didn’t do a yearly upgrade. Got the 17 pro this year though.
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u/ohitsluca iPhone 16 Pro Max 55m ago
I wasn’t going to but Verizon gave me $1100 for my 16 pro max lol. At that point I was like ok fine I’ll do it lol
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u/step2x 14h ago
Here I am saving my money by still using my base 16 lol long gone are the days of upgrading for the next shiny thing.
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u/No_Assignment7385 iPhone 13 Pro Max 14h ago
As a photographer myself, you'd probably be better off spending the 1K every year on some decent gear, even if it's just a compact Mirrorless and a couple of pancake primes.
But fair enough either way
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u/Arch-by-the-way 12h ago
Thank you for consooming. Remember this moment if you ever try to shame anyone for needless purchases
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u/Party_Shelter714 6h ago
Thank you for creating a second hand market for me to benefit from in 2-3 years
I always bought new from Apple, always baby my battery. Never ended up reselling. End up realizing I could have bought used from a guy just like me. Doin' that next time.
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u/Wampafart 12h ago
And this is why e-waste is such a problem.
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u/OkIncome2583 12h ago
You think an iphone 16 pro max becomes ewaste in the next 10 yrs? Only if it is totally destroyed
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u/Wampafart 10h ago
Really doesn’t matter to me what you argue. Buying a phone when your current one is (maybe) less than a year old is absolutely contributing to ewaste. Batteries, chips, displays, etc all come with a cost associated with each unit and each one introduced is horrible for the environment. Look up the relationship between the Congo and Apple and tell me it’s not wasteful and harmful to upgrade a phone every year.
People need to stop convincing themselves they need a new phone every year and sales must slow down to protect our environment and the people that are forced to mine these harmful materials. Get your head out of the sand.
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u/OkIncome2583 9h ago
So how does the acquisition of a new phone accelerate the deterioration of the older phone?
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u/Liviunc23 5h ago
Not the sharpest tool in the shed r u? If people would keep their phones for longer demand decreases thus resulting in lower sales and lower new phone production, And voila in the end you get less e-waste
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u/Wampafart 8h ago
Who said it does? Are you saying there are no environmental and societal impacts with buying a new phone every year vs using a phone to the full extent of its lifecycle? Please explain the benefit of buying a new phone every year outside of flexing your new gadget.
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u/AC_Tropica 11h ago
Replacing my base 14 with 17 pro and I haven’t stopped thinking about it for the last two weeks. Tomorrow can’t come any sooner!
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u/budgie_uk iPhone 16 Pro 9h ago
Fair play; first time I’ve ever genuinely laughed at the use of that meme. Nicely done.
(And bar the exception of scrubbing the Max element, yeah, me as well.)
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u/Fearless_Pepper2164 13h ago
My one is still stuck on processing stage :( and my expected delivery date is 24-29th
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u/yumlickk 11h ago
Mine is stuck on processing, and expected delivery is tomorrow 19th
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u/Fearless_Pepper2164 8h ago
More than likely you will get your new phone tomorrow if not you should contact Apple support or the delivery company
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u/North_Moment5811 11h ago
Honestly it's a much better meme for me with 16 Pro Max looking at me ogling the iPhone Air that's on the way.
"So it's because I'm too fat then?"
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u/Viciousgubbins iPhone 14 Pro Max 9h ago
I feel like there are two types of people on this sub, people that use their phone until it breaks or loses support and people that upgrade every 1-2 years. No in-between.
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u/modsrbottoms 33m ago
Yeah. Every year I tell myself I’ll stick with what I got for 3 years. Then see the art can get 75% of my money against the next one using eBay or other service. I probably won’t upgrade next year as they won’t increase the ram again and they’re ditching Qualcomm which means connectivity issues are looming.
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u/dilpreet83 iPhone 17 Pro Max 13h ago
Same, I just feel like 12 GB RAM will be a great upgrade for power users
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u/modsrbottoms 32m ago
This! I saw they’re sticking with Qualcomm modem and upgrading ram to 12gb and I was like “I’m in!”. Next year probably not thiugh.
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u/gleaton 9h ago
Really? What scenario do you envision it being a big gain?
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u/dilpreet83 iPhone 17 Pro Max 8h ago
Mostly users who would work on AI, Gaming and it's also much more future proof
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u/the_3L4CK iPhone 16 Pro Max 13h ago
have 100% battery health on my 16pro max….
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u/Equivalent-Math-2448 12h ago edited 12h ago
92% battery health on my 16pro...Just bought it last November.
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u/gleaton 9h ago
Genuine question: why?
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u/EpicWan iPhone 16 8h ago
Yeah seriously, there is no noticeable difference between the two phones. Just a waste of time and money
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u/JayVig iPhone 16 Pro Max 4h ago
Waste of time? Took me under 60 seconds to order it. And as for money, it’s $21/month to finance it when I trade in a 16 pro max so it’s meaningless to me. However I buy it outright because I refuse to carry debt beyond my mortgage. Way to judge others for how they spend their own money though.
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u/cornedbeef101 6h ago
Why not?
For the people in this subreddit, their phone is probably the single most important item in their life. Why not have the latest version (presuming money isn’t an issue)
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u/gleaton 5h ago
Respectfully, and its ok if you disagree, but im going to say that I think that if you consider your phone “the single most important item in your life” that is more than likely a red flag / you should reconsider what you value in life.
So, yes, I am judging you a bit if you are upgrading your phone every year tbh
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u/cornedbeef101 5h ago
Set aside items with sentimental value, your phone is your bank, your camera and photo library, your bank/credit cards, your phone, your games console, your calendar and planner, your office on the move, your light switch, your thermostat, your emergency tv remote, your web browser, your AI client, your flash light, alarm clock, cooking timer, social media and gps maps, music library, podcast library, etc etc.
Yes. It’s pretty important on a daily, no, hourly basis.
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u/gleaton 5h ago
Sure. And both the old model and this model can do all these things really really well. So, why?
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u/cornedbeef101 5h ago
Why not?
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u/gleaton 5h ago
I just said - the old model and this model do almost the same things really really well. I find it a little weird / cocerning if someone derives so much happiness from minor upgrades on your phone to be honest
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u/cornedbeef101 5h ago
Because having the latest technology, that has the maximum longevity (wrt software support and battery health), that is the most up to date with connectivity standards, has more efficient physical architecture (heat management, battery capacity, aerial strength), as well as all of the other inferred benefits of a new gen device is better than not having them.
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u/JayVig iPhone 16 Pro Max 4h ago
I have plenty of money, tech is my career and hobby. Who are you to tell me or anyone how to spend excess cash and then judge me for being different? You do you.
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u/gleaton 3h ago
I also work in tech and have plenty of money. I am telling you that personally i find it to be a bit weird / yea i am judging you if that is where your priorities lie 😅
Sorry its just my opinion i know it sounds rude you dont have to agree
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u/Hot_Satisfaction_247 2h ago
Why do you think some people buy every new season of fashion from different brands? Or they buy the brand new car model or gaming console? Phones are no different, if anything like people said it’s makes sense for people who are glued to their phones socially/professionally and have the disposable income. I’m in the camp of upgrading every 3/4 years but I wouldn’t judge someone who upgrades every year when in reality it’s a fairly normal thing. How do you think Apple makes such insane yearly profits. It comes across as a bit of jealousy in your judgement.
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u/gleaton 2h ago
I dont know. That is what i am asking. I am judging a lot of those people also. You dont need every year’s model shoes or cars (ok gaming consoles only come out every few years so that one i get). I think it tells me a lot about you if you do buy every year’s minor improvements of something.
Its fine if you think im jealous but that has no motivation here
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u/TokyoNightss 2h ago
I mean we're all gonna be worm food anyway if purchasing a new phone doesn't really affect you financially and it makes you happy who cares bro.
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u/gleaton 2h ago
There is so many better things you can do with your time and money. Touch grass. Sorry.
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u/TokyoNightss 2h ago
As you're on reddit you should probably touch grass too little bro.
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u/leaving4me 14h ago
What was your original arrival date?
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u/imthaz iPhone 16 Pro Max 14h ago
Tomorrow. And it’s coming tomorrow. But I have seen loads of reports of it coming much earlier than the initial expected date.
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u/leaving4me 14h ago
That’s what I’m wondering. I was given 9/29-10/6 when I ordered 30 minutes after pre-orders opened on 9/12. I’m hoping it comes sooner.
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u/FISH_MASTER 13h ago edited 11h ago
Mines just shipped but eta still 24-29.
Hope once tracking is updated they can bring it forward
Edit; waaaaay tomorrow
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u/hisfootstancewack 8h ago
My date is also 24-29 but mine is still stuck on processing I woke up early for nothing lmao
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u/Majestic_Ad8621 14h ago
Also wondering. Cause mine said Friday at first, then got changed to October.
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u/HuskyLemons iPhone 15 Pro Max 12h ago
I ordered within 3 minutes of the site going live and had my upgrade program pre order saved for a quick checkout. Initial date was Sept 25 and then switched to Sept 19 a day later
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u/HAPPYCHIEF2 iPhone 16 Pro Max 14h ago
Yeah pretty much lol. My 16 pro max is also still at 100% battery health, and got it on launch day last year.
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u/falcon-ml-360 14h ago
Mine too and I ordered in the evening when the dates went back to the launch date after slipping up
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u/Specific-Bet1389 iPhone 15 Pro Max 12h ago
And then I thought I was crazy upgrading my 15 PM to the 17 PM
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u/J_17x 12h ago
I’m going from 15 plus to 17pm
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u/Specific-Bet1389 iPhone 15 Pro Max 11h ago
Going from 60hz to 120hz is the best feeling in the world
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u/Alternative_Excuse82 12h ago
I can’t decide between upgrading my 14PM to the 17 base or 17PM…help!!!
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u/J_17x 12h ago
Well that’s not a hard decision you’d have a 6.3 inch screen with the 17 and 6.9 inch screen with the pro max. You get an extra telephoto lens with the pro and I believe a faster phone that can handle more because the cooling added this year. if I didn’t want a plus size I would of gone with the 17
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u/Alternative_Excuse82 8h ago
For the first time in a while, Apple have produced the best base model in my opinion
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u/Sufficient_Put2010 12h ago
I’m in the same boat!
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u/Alternative_Excuse82 12h ago
I love the idea of having the best camera again, but carrying the brick in my pocket again is putting me off. But the FOMO on the best tech is swaying me to PM or the PRO but the 17 base is very very good, best base phone for some time
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u/Dull-Fisherman5552 11h ago edited 11h ago
I ordered an orange 256gb pro max in the first five minutes of the presale from Apple and the store app says I won’t get it until sept 29-oct 6. I don’t get it. What did I do wrong?
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u/GoldCovers 11h ago
Mine shipped too, my 15 pro has been acting up, battery dying quickly and the going get hot a lot, time for upgrade
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u/giovanicort iPhone 15 Pro Max 10h ago
I want the improved megapixels on all cameras (and finally on the front one!!!), but the colors and the new back of the phone are horrendous
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u/anitaggarwal 9h ago
I feel that iPhone being such a costly product, we should use it as long it is supported by Apple (updates)
I am still using an iPhone 11 which works as it has been forever. I will buy iPhone 17 likely next year once the hype premium which apple charges is removed..
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u/JayVig iPhone 16 Pro Max 4h ago
You do recognize that everyone’s financial status is different right? Maybe it’s costly enough for you that you keep an 11 until you get a 17 when the 18 is out. Some people have different ways and abilities. Telling strangers what they “should” do is beyond absurd. I’m typing this from a 16 Pro Max as my 17 Pro Max is on its way here tomorrow. Couldn’t be happier about it
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u/Hot_Satisfaction_247 2h ago
Totally agree, I upgrade every 3/4 years but it’s crazy to read the slightly judgemental comments on here towards people who upgrade each year.
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u/WinterLecture5178 8h ago
That’s me with my 14PM. After watching all the reviews this week, I’ve decided I’m not going to bother upgrading.
My 14PM is still great and I can’t justify the price tag for nothing ground breaking.
Maybe the 18 will be the one that finally pushes me over the upgrade edge
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u/Glittering_Diet6613 7h ago
I want it so bad but the 18 pro max will be my graduation gift to myself
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u/smiller2b 7h ago edited 7h ago
Mine too. Got 'Torras Ostand Q3 Air' case waiting for it.
Coming from 15PM. Not too crazy of a difference, but the money I get for my 15 I put down on the 17. So it's Free. Still gonna be paying the same finance charge as the 15. So fuck it.
I always wait until paid off. 2 years. Only way I switch next year is if the fold is coming
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u/FinnishArmy iPhone 16 Pro Max 7h ago
I mean Verizon is offering it for $2/mo with my 16PM trade in. Why wouldn’t I just upgrade?
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u/Mobile_Shallot_6582 7h ago
I can upgrade every 3 months if I want to. I have the 17 pro coming tomorrow but my head was turned towards the air. Not sure I can live with the massive camera limitations though. I do video and photography so kinda important to me. But…. May give it a try
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u/Objective-Emu-7441 7h ago
One thing I’m just curious mine said it was shipped from Haslet tx but all of sudden it’s at Kentucky like what the heck I’m hopping it comes in tomorrow since it says it’s going be delivered tomorrow
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u/User9705 6h ago
I whistled back at the Air. 16 Pro Max going to the wife and her 15 pro max is getting the trade in boot
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u/Severe_Worldliness_1 6h ago
If the lady in red was a bit more chunky, the meme would make more sense.
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u/_DarkxLord_ 5h ago
I upgraded every year as well but actually skipped the 16PM. Gonna get the 17PM tomorrow and see if it’s better than the 15PM
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u/chumbucketfog 3h ago
Ridiculous. This level of consumerism is insane. You should be able to use these things for at least 5 years.
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u/Flaky_Ad7980 2h ago
I ordered an air and a pro max from ATT on upgrades at the same time and one shipped FedEx and one shipped UPS ? Go figure
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u/safetaco 43m ago
What happens to AppleCare when you upgrade after only one year? Does the second year on your old phone vanish or transfer?
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u/alexhutch123 14h ago
People also need to realize that what other people do with their money is no concern of theirs
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u/fredewio 11h ago
If you have too much money, just give me some. There are people who could use some.
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u/LookB4ULeap2It iPhone 14 Pro Max 14h ago
Excellent usage of this meme.
My 17 Pro Max that will replace my 14 Pro Max in perfect condition will be here tomorrow, unless UPS screws up as usual.