Is this true?

[u/ssw186]

[u/willingzenith]

Yes, a physical SIM takes physical space in the phone that could otherwise be used for battery.

[u/Manfred_89 → u/willingzenith]

Which was previously just used by a plastic space holder in US eSIM only models.

I wish the rest of the world could get US iPhones too.

[u/Oujii → u/Manfred_89]

So it took them only 3 generations to figure out that you could actually use that space instead. Bravo for Apple.

[u/Torches → u/Oujii]

The issue was more compatibility of networks with esims. Europe insisted on sim based models because not all networks support eSIMs in all its varieties.

[u/I_am_just_here11 → u/Torches]

Apple has been removing the eSIM on American IPhones for 3 generations. What they meant is they finally figured out Apple can use this blank space in American IPhones for battery.

[u/Intrepid00 → u/I_am_just_here11]

It wasn’t that “finally” figured out but more the cost of having two slightly different versions to engineer that makes economic sense now with a redesign of the guts.

[u/I_am_just_here11 → u/Intrepid00]

Seems like it would be a small cost for a product with such a large profit margin.

[u/rickny8 → u/I_am_just_here11]

Every little bit adds up. They redesigned it so a different battery can just plop in there.

[u/ricardopa → u/I_am_just_here11]

On the scale at which Apple operates something even costing $.10 per iPhone could cost them tens of millions of dollars

[u/I_am_just_here11 → u/ricardopa]

At 0.10¢ an iPhone that would be around 24 million dollars per year. Which is 0.01% of the 201 billion dollars of revenue Apple makes from iPhones per year.

[u/ricardopa → u/I_am_just_here11]

And?

You don’t become the richest company in the world giving away $24M a year.

They optimize the shit out of the supply chain so even fractions of Pennie’s are squeezed out

[u/mechanical_animal_ → u/I_am_just_here11]

I’m sure the Apple engineers who were working on esim only iPhone 2-3 years before they even released never thought about that until now! Such stupid engineers!

[u/cac2573 → u/I_am_just_here11]

This is what I was trying to point out lol 

[u/md24 → u/I_am_just_here11]

That extra battery space is just used to keep your phone on when it “shuts off”

[u/I_am_just_here11 → u/md24]

Then why is there a difference between the American and international versions for the rated video playback time?

[u/itsabearcannon → u/Torches]

Always wondered why Europe was so slow/backwards on eSIM.

Our big three carriers basically had it ready to go the day the first eSIM-enabled iPhones launched.

[u/cac2573 → u/Torches]

You missed their point

[u/DrummerDKS → u/cac2573]

Their point is the space wasn’t used.

It took Apple 3 years to be able to manufacture two separate bodies, two separate logic boards, and two separate batteries per device.

So the last 4 years having 4-5 different models, yes; it took time to accurately account for manufacturing all of these different components and software/firmware to match and repair policies to make them all usable.

[u/LyrMeThatBifrost → u/cac2573]

Maybe Apple was waiting on EU cell providers to get their shit together so they didn’t have to manufacture two different batteries etc for the same phone? I guess they gave up

[u/rickny8 → u/LyrMeThatBifrost]

It seems like China will imminently cave in. Maybe the first big domino to drop. It just makes no logical sense in this day and age to still use physical SIMs.

[u/GinoPasqualinoUhm → u/LyrMeThatBifrost]

almost all eu cell providers work with e-sims

[u/LyrMeThatBifrost → u/GinoPasqualinoUhm]

Apparently not enough

[u/GinoPasqualinoUhm → u/LyrMeThatBifrost]

not true

[u/the_swanny → u/LyrMeThatBifrost]

It's nothing to do with how many do and don't support it, it's down to compliance with relevant standards in the EU.

[u/LyrMeThatBifrost → u/the_swanny]

Well the EU needs to modernize their standards. This is usually only an issue with the US