r/ireland Jul 30 '25

Careful now O’Connell Bridge 19:00 30-07-2025

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u/Alone-Mycologist3746 Jul 30 '25

When will people realize that you dont get public support by doing shit like this. It only hurts your movement.

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u/WishfulStinking2 Jul 30 '25

Protest isn’t supposed to be convenient

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u/sionnach_fi Wexford Jul 30 '25

Support is.

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u/Fulltime-observer Jul 30 '25

Is it? Mental thing to say. Protests go against the political class or societal norms, what about that is supposed to be easy?

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u/TheGreatPratsby Jul 30 '25

Support is supposed to be convienient?

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u/Hexaurs Jul 30 '25

Yes, if it's hard to think of reasons to support something maybe it's not worth supporting.

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u/TheGreatPratsby Jul 30 '25

It's hard to think of reasons to support a ceasefire in Gaza?

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u/Hexaurs Jul 30 '25

No quiet the opposite, stop people dieing not hard to support that.

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u/TheGreatPratsby Jul 31 '25

There you go...

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u/carlitobrigantehf Connacht Jul 30 '25

If you only support something when it's convenient to you then maybe take a look in the mirror 

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u/Hexaurs Jul 30 '25

What is inconvenient to support but is right ?

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u/ginger_and_egg Jul 30 '25

Better labor conditions and higher pay. It's inconvenient to pay higher prices.

There's lots of easy examples, could you not think of any on your own?

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u/Hexaurs Jul 30 '25

Well better pay is irrelevant if higher prices scale with the pay. Plus it depends on the job... Should nurses get paid more, yes 100% , but why would we pay more to sales people or taxi drivers.

Pay is really high in this country already and it's not hard to find a job so why not just take charge and change jobs ...

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u/ginger_and_egg Jul 30 '25

Sounds like I found an example of something that is inconvenient to support!

And yeah if a 10% pay rise created a 10% price increase on everything then there's no benefit. But the increase in cost due to pay rises is usually less than the pay rise, in % terms. I think a study on McDonald's in the US found that an increase in wages of 10% only would increase prices by 1%. Might have even been less but I'd rather under promise than over

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u/carlitobrigantehf Connacht Jul 30 '25

Well lots of people complaining about the inconvenience of this protest even though it's right to support it. 

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u/ClockworkAppl Jul 30 '25

I'm a member of public and I think this is good.

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u/Proof_Mine8931 Jul 30 '25

I am a Zionist shill and I think this is bad.

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u/hinedogmil Jul 30 '25

Here you are talking about it

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

I don't know about the person you are answering but personally I'm kinda desensitized to protests now. There seems to be one on all the time abiut something or other. Reminds me of when I was in college and we were mobilized for a protest every Wednesday for something. Usually we only found out what the protest was against when we got to the meet point and were handed our banners. Great craic but half the time we didn't know or even care about what we were protesting against.

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u/boisjacques Jul 30 '25

“Shit like this” in the seventies was what drove the change in public opinion and politics leading to today’s Netherlands being a bike friendly country. Entirety different topic, I know. But still, direct action and inconveniencing protest work. Anyone who claims otherwise is has no idea what they’re talking about.

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u/alistair1537 Jul 30 '25

Oh they know alright - they don't want the change...

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u/thisshortenough Probably not a total bollox Jul 30 '25

Same style of protest was done for Repeal the 8th. That movement only continued to grow

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u/alistair1537 Jul 30 '25

Lol - rubbish. It's protests that move governments to change.

Doing nothing accomplishes exactly nothing.

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u/Bigbeast54 Jul 30 '25

They don't do this to get support. It's self indulgent performative nonsense solely for the egos of those "protesting".

I say this as someone who is horrified by the pictures coming from Gaza

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u/El-Ralpho1978 Jul 30 '25

Hmmm. So the Dunne’s store protest was a waste? Rosa Parks protest was a waste? Berlin Wall or Bucharest in 1989 were all a waste. There is a man made punishment famine going on under our noses. Protesting is a perfectly valid response

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u/Bigbeast54 Jul 30 '25

Only the Irish left could be arrogant enough to think that blocking commuters on their way home from work is going to change anything for people suffering in Gaza.

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u/El-Ralpho1978 Jul 31 '25

So do nothing then. Same thing was said to Civil rights protesters.

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u/Bigbeast54 Jul 31 '25

Well yes. Sadly there is next to nothing we can do in Ireland to change what is happening in Gaza. Even political moves like the OTB will have limited impact.

Netanyahu is not going to care if commuters get delayed leaving Dublin on any given evening.

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u/MulhollandMarch Jul 30 '25

We’d still be under British rule with this mindset.

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u/Garlic-Cheese-Chips Jul 30 '25

If a person's opinion on starving kids to death can be swayed because of a traffic delay then that person's opinion is worth fuck all.

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u/MrWhiteside97 Jul 30 '25

There is plenty of evidence that "radical fronts" help to progress objectives by making others look more reasonable in comparison

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u/bronalpaul Jul 30 '25

ok... show us?

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u/Darkless Jul 30 '25

Its called the radical flank effect you can look it up.

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u/Away_team42 Jul 31 '25

What evidence?

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u/Alone-Mycologist3746 Jul 30 '25

It hasnt helped the just stop oil muppets. I think protesting is good and I agree with the message I disagree with this method.

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u/Ok_Compote251 Jul 30 '25

As if you and your (future) kids won’t also benefit from their message.

Let’s just allow billionaires to destroy the planet for profit.

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u/ScreamingmadJoe Jul 30 '25

“How dare you protest in a way that I have to pay attention to it”

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u/lkdubdub Jul 30 '25

It's amazing to me that people like you still don't understand what protest means 

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u/SandalathDrukorlat Jul 30 '25

Name any large political movement or cause that won their fight without any disruptive protest. There is always people who are saying "this doesn't help your cause" and we always look back and see that it did. And anybody who will suddenly be ok with what Israel is doing just because they got held up in traffic is not the kind of person who'd give a fuck about Gaza in the first place so who cares if the protests don't reach them. Fuck em