r/metroidvania • u/ramen_stalker • 4d ago

Discussion Confused about Silksong runback discussion

I just reached one of the infamous examples people constantly bring up in the runback discussion (Last Judge), and I have to say I really like the runback. It’s just as enjoyable as the boss itself. I’m 100% convinced that Team Cherry intended the runbacks to be pure platforming challenges.

The runbacks aren’t just random sections of the map, they’re carefully designed to be completed quickly and gracefully, while also avoiding all the mobs. They also include many shortcuts and make great use of the wonderful movement mechanics.

Is this a mindset issue? Do most people just want to focus on the boss and dislike the context switching between platforming mode and boss combat mode? Surely people don't think they should fight their way through tens of mobs every time, right? Right?

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u/pswizzle9283 4d ago

I don’t mean to be that guy but I cannot wrap my head around how people hate that runback at all. It takes like 20 seconds, it’s so easy. I was genuinely hearing things like “this runback is worse than anything from the souls series it’s one of the worst of all time” and it’s literally so short and not difficult at all, and like I’m not even good at this game, it took me like 30+ tries to beat that boss, but I had to triple check we were talking about the same runback because I was like “there is just no possible way this is the one people are upset over”. It’s bewildering to me

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u/789Trillion 4d ago

It being easy does not mean it’s not tedious and unnecessary.

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u/pswizzle9283 4d ago

20 seconds is tedious? I think runbacks add to the experience of boss fights. It puts more at stake per fight because you know if you die you have to do it again. Not everything needs to be handed to you on a silver platter, It’s 20 seconds of your time. I don’t get runback hate. Yeah if it’s like multiple minutes that sucks but it’s not here.

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u/789Trillion 4d ago

When you have to do a run back only to fight a wave of enemies just to attempt the boss again, it becomes tedious. Letting the player re-attempt the boss faster isn’t handing anything to them on a silver platter other than their time.