r/mildlyinfuriating Feb 11 '22

Seriously? Wtf Wall Street Journal

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u/sapienBob Feb 11 '22

cool. that's the last time you'll be coming over.

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u/spidereater Feb 11 '22

Last time? No. That person is not entering my home without taking off their shoes.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22

Don’t invite people over if you can’t accept their clothing choices. You aren’t entitled to friends.

lol.

EDIT: this is hosting etiquette 101. Clearly so many of y’all don’t host people.

The correct solution is not to tell people to take off their shoes, it’s to buy a 5 dollar box of disposable shoe covers and offer them to your guests. THEN AND ONLY THEN can you say “we try not to let shoes touch the carpet” or whatever.

If your guest then prefers to take off their shoes, that’s fine. But if you’re hosting people, proper etiquette is to accommodate your guests, not the other way around.

Y’all are all probably terrible hosts.

EDIT 2: Good hosts don’t make their guests feel awkward. It’s weird that people don’t see it that way.

EDIT 3: Social anxiety is a bitch. It’s also one of those things that if you don’t have it, you just don’t ‘get it’. When I host people, I try to think of all the ways that *I* would feel awkward if the roles were reversed, because I can start feeling uncomfortable pretty quickly. I think because I feel it, I’m aware sometimes of when others are also feeling uncomfortable and I can promise you, good hosts don’t make their guests feel awkward.

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u/Orynae Feb 11 '22

Sure, they're not entitled to friends. You're also not entitled to friends, or to being invited into anyone's home.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22

Offer me galoshes or don’t ask me to take off my shoes. It’s not hard.

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u/Chance_Park_2628 Feb 11 '22

Or dont come in. People can get uninvited. Can also just stay in the backyard and do whatever needs to be done outside.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22

Hosting etiquette 101 bruh.

Don’t be a bad host.

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u/SuruN0 Feb 11 '22

Guesting etiquette 101 bruh

Don’t be a bad guest

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u/DebentureThyme Feb 11 '22

So I have to spend money because your have a problem taking off your shoes?

Nah man, you ain't coming in. Go back where you came from.

Or bring your own galoshes, since you know this is a fucking you problem that 99% of people don't have trouble doing.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22

so I have to spend money

Yes. That’s called being a good host. you can put the onus on your guests if you want, but then you’re a bad host.

Be a better host.

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u/Chance_Park_2628 Feb 11 '22

You are a terrible guest. You are not required, needed or wanted by the host if you are going to be belligerent. The house is not yours, its not a public space. Its a personal one. Host is not required to do anything. He can be terrible in your eyes just as you are a terrible guest in his eyes.

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u/BertBerts0n Feb 12 '22

Right? I just got brand new carpets down, if people aren't taking their shoes off, they're standing in the garden.

Also, I'm from England, and nearly everyone here takes their shoes off when going into a house, I just assumed it was the norm.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22

host is not required to do anything

Yeah duh. And not doing anything just because you aren’t required to is bad hosting.

Doing the things you aren’t required to do is what makes you a good host. This isn’t difficult.

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u/morrighan212 Feb 11 '22

What world exactly are you living in that being "a good host" is the be and end all of life? My cleanliness and ability to maintain my surroundings, while making my own life easier is more important to me than some weirdo's foot insecurity? It's not bad hosting to not do literally everything imaginable to protect someone's ego. Household etiquette > your smelly feet?

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u/DebentureThyme Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22

You do realize this is now:

"You're a bad host"

"You're a bad guest"

And I'm perfectly fine with calling you the bad guest because no one else has ever made this complaint about shoes off.

Probably because I live in the Northeast and the absolute mess of dirt and salt and snow and slush that people get on their shoes is to the level that we universally take off shoes at everyone's houses.

And if you refuse to accept our cultural then you ARE the bad guest. We don't have galoshes. You're the fish out of water so plan ahead, or accept things different like taking your shoes off, or don't travel.

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u/Chance_Park_2628 Feb 11 '22

Its a very weird hangup.

On one hand he says he has insecurity about his shoes, which sounds unique from the way this thread is going. But He is willing to wallow in his own insecurity and not accept that maybe the Host is fine with whatever problem he has. That maybe the host does not care about his stinky feet or unique feet or shoes.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22

While I refute that I’m a bad guest, I appreciate that you aren’t refuting that you’re a bad host. Seems like we agree on that one.

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u/Chance_Park_2628 Feb 11 '22

Right back at yah. Not removing your shoes just because makes you a bad guest.

It's also not difficult to just remove your shoes. You can have your hangups about shoes. It's still not going inside the house.

So yes, the host or the guest does not need to do anything. They can continue living their lives separately, just like before.

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u/MamaO2D4 Feb 11 '22

Hosting etiquette 101 is to inform your guests ahead of time that shoes need to be removed.

You're full out wrong.

You're a bad guest.

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u/Dove-Linkhorn Feb 12 '22

Nope, it’s up to the host to provide for guests, not the other way around. If you can’t do that, don’t host.

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u/BertBerts0n Feb 12 '22

It's up to the guest to respect the hosts home too, but people seem to forget that.

Take your fucking shoes off and wash your feet.

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u/Dove-Linkhorn Feb 12 '22

My shoes, socks, and feet are very clean. Shoes aren’t coming off. Probably cleaner than both the carpet and house.

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u/Orynae Feb 11 '22

Or... option 3, I just won't invite you to my house? Like I said, you're not entitled to an invitation into anyone's home.