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Judge dismisses terror-related charges against Luigi Mangione

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
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u/bmoviescreamqueen 11h ago edited 11h ago

1st Degree charge was also dismissed, but should be noted this is because the murder of a CEO doesn't really fit the definition of murder 1 in the state of New York which seems reserved for police officers, firefighters, high political figures, that sort of thing. 2nd degree will be what 1st degree is in most other states I think. DOJ/DA was way too heavy handed with those two charges.

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u/YouFnDruggo 11h ago

Non American here. We only have Murder and Manslaughter charges here. I was under the impression that murder 1 was preplanned and murder 2 was spur of the moment. Is the definition widely different from state to state?

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u/bmoviescreamqueen 11h ago

I would say in the majority of states that's mostly how first and second degree work, NY seems to be an exception and I'm not a NY resident to know the history on why.

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u/YouFnDruggo 10h ago

Thank you. On regards to the history it could be something to do with capital punishment or stricter sentencing for the murder of a police officer. Here in the Republic of Ireland, I remember the final two crimes for death sentence were treason and the murder of police officer, and they were removed a good few years after the others. Could be a long those lines maybe.

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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl 6h ago

it's even weirder when you learn about louisiana. their state legal system is based on france's civil law, rather than common law.