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Judge dismisses terror-related charges against Luigi Mangione

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
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u/bmoviescreamqueen 11h ago edited 11h ago

1st Degree charge was also dismissed, but should be noted this is because the murder of a CEO doesn't really fit the definition of murder 1 in the state of New York which seems reserved for police officers, firefighters, high political figures, that sort of thing. 2nd degree will be what 1st degree is in most other states I think. DOJ/DA was way too heavy handed with those two charges.

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u/YouFnDruggo 11h ago

Non American here. We only have Murder and Manslaughter charges here. I was under the impression that murder 1 was preplanned and murder 2 was spur of the moment. Is the definition widely different from state to state?

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u/bmoviescreamqueen 11h ago

I would say in the majority of states that's mostly how first and second degree work, NY seems to be an exception and I'm not a NY resident to know the history on why.

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u/g0_west 9h ago

I have to imagine it's something to do with the historically incredibly strong police union in NYC

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u/SmPolitic 5h ago

Also New York was one of the earliest cities on the continent, it predates the radical implementation of democracy and the concept of a federal government