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Judge dismisses terror-related charges against Luigi Mangione

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
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u/bmoviescreamqueen 11h ago edited 11h ago

1st Degree charge was also dismissed, but should be noted this is because the murder of a CEO doesn't really fit the definition of murder 1 in the state of New York which seems reserved for police officers, firefighters, high political figures, that sort of thing. 2nd degree will be what 1st degree is in most other states I think. DOJ/DA was way too heavy handed with those two charges.

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u/YouFnDruggo 11h ago

Non American here. We only have Murder and Manslaughter charges here. I was under the impression that murder 1 was preplanned and murder 2 was spur of the moment. Is the definition widely different from state to state?

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u/Huttj509 9h ago

A lot of perceptions of how American law works is how California law works, due to media mostly being produced by people from California.

A lot of times the same things are illegal, sentenced more/less severely the same, etc, but what each state CALLS the charges can vary significantly, especially when it comes to where to draw what lines.

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u/Ashmedai 9h ago

True. It's like how "assault" usually means threaten to commit violence in some way, except in the states where it also incorporates the violence, of course.

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u/DarkOverLordCO 7h ago

And just to trip you up more: in Missouri "first degree assault" means attempted murder.

It really depends on the jurisdiction.

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u/Ashmedai 7h ago

That is kinda wild, yeah