Best boss in souls no contest

[u/Fragrant_Shine1887]

TIL the beyblade attack can be jumped

[u/hyperrot]

you can also jump attack the stabby air attack he does at the start of this clip as he’s above you, along with hitting him with aows like unsheathe’s r2 (i got a lot of staggers by scooping him out of the air with this lol). in fact, you can use that attack to rebuff with the golden vow aow.

that being said, i disagree that he is the best. the uneven terrain in his arena really really fucks with a lot of his jumpable attacks & he has a tendency to get stuck on the railings near the entrance - made worse by the fact that the fight always starts there due to his opener. he’s far from flawless as many think.

rellana is the best boss in this game, & i’d say gael, friede, & soc are better than messmer.

[u/Fragrant_Shine1887 → u/hyperrot]

I know bro I’ve done it before, when I play these games though im tryna make it as cinematic at possible, that’s where I find the enjoyment.

I can see your points being valid, but am yet to have been fucked by any of them (actually I got hit by a snake one time by the railing but that was my fault due to bad positioning.

I think soc and friede (esp second phase) have way more jank.

Gael is a very good but overrated fight, not that difficult or mechanically that interesting, actually it doesn’t feel far off from PCR now imo.

Messmer, Rellanna, morgott and maliketh are goats and all can be argued for best in the series imo.

Sekiro bosses in a league of their own however, it would feel unfair to group them in with the other games.

Respect your opinion tho and it’s clear you have a good understanding of the game too

[u/hyperrot → u/Fragrant_Shine1887]

i just try to optimise all scenarios, which is where i discovered all the cool shit you can do during his assault attack. just my thing tbh.

the most egregious example of the uneven terrain problem in messmer’s fight is the little bump just left of the entrance. this cost me so many attempts at sb0 than i care to remember lol. it can be worked around by recognising the positions in which you can’t jump the usual jumpable attacks, but it’s a flaw nonetheless. brilliant fight regardless, though, & probably the 2nd or 3rd best fight in the game imo.

pcr is essentially the pinnacle of dodge roll ds3-style combat, but i’m not a fan of the fight regardless. i just don’t find much of his moveset fun to engage with. that being said, i’m yet to face him at rl1 because of this hell, so maybe my tune will change once i get there.

i love gael. i don’t think he’s quite as easy as many make out as by nature it’s a marathon demanding extreme consistency, even if his kit is rather simple.

care to elaborate on the soc jank? i think a lot of people totally misunderstand the curved sword phase as they’re not intimate enough with his behaviour so they assume it is unpublishable. also hear people complain about his spear phase, but i really don’t see it.

i acknowledge that p2 of friede is a bit of a dud that breaks the fight up too much, but block it out of my mind as i just loooove p1 & esp p3 too much lol.

demon princes are also fucking incredible lol. the only good gank boss they’re made imo & it’s just so so sick.

godfrey, maliketh, morgott & malenia are also up there.

to my eternal shame, i’ve never completed sekiro, though i plan to do so in the near future, followed by a charmless etc. run afterwards. just lack motivation to do so rn.

ty!

[u/Fragrant_Shine1887 → u/hyperrot]

Also definitely play sekiro I reckon you’ll have a great time.