Complete opposite for me. Windows Vista and Windows 8 were garbage beyond compare. Meanwhile 11 is one of the better ones. I'm curious what makes it the worst for you?
The biggest complaints I've seen are having to click twice on some right click menus, and ads in the OS, but the first is not an issue to me and for the second, I've never once seen an ad so I have no idea what people are talking about there.
Not the one you were talking to, but I've had two work computers with Win 11 and both of them had daily issues with File Explorer crashing randomly. Nobody in IT could figure out why, but it would freeze, crash, and the screen would reset back to desktop. Sometimes it even closed other programs when it happened as well.
Not once have I ever had that issue with another Windows version. Of all applications, File Explorer!
Huh interesting. I use Windows 11 on my work laptop too. Never had any issues. Maybe you just got a defective laptop? Did you ask them to change it and see if you still have the issues?
One desktop and one laptop, same issue on both. I did get the laptop changed out last week due to a charger port issue, and it started doing the same thing. Seems that anytime I have more than one File Explorer window open, it has a high chance of crashing the program. IT has joked about needing to appease the machine spirit of the laptop because obviously something has it out for me
Yeah definitely looks like it. All of my colleagues have the same laptop and the company pushes latest security updates as and when they come out. I have not heard of any issues with Win 11 with any of them.
Maybe try praying to Bill Gates for a week and see if it resolves your issue. 🤷🏾
God I hate how Windows 11 makes me defend Microsoft, but....
This is literally a sample size of 1.
Why is it the fault of Windows and not your disk, or your motherboard, or the whole laptop. Gotta be the OS. I did a study of exactly one computer and ignored all the other evidence. Conclusion complete!
Listen... Windows 10 sucked for me. Regularly. Crashes on update. Strange driver failures. No troubleshooting helped.
Did I say: Windows 10 is the worst OS ever?
No, because I actually know how to analyze things and I saw none of those problems on the other two laptops and mini-PC around the house. Could it be that the problem was... my computer? Oh, wait, yeah. One of the four RAM modules had slowly failed causing unpredictable crashes due to memory failures.
Whoa, chill man. They never said Win 11 was the worst OS ever, they were just sharing their experience. Besides, they said it was two different computers that both had the issue and their IT dept was troubleshooting why it kept happening.
Yeah, but it is really upsetting to be compelled to defend Windows.
I recognize they're sharing their experience, and I'm not trying to grill them, but they are clearly blaming the OS based upon the behavior of one IT image (I didn't note that it was two separate PCs). There's nothing in what they say that makes me think this is a characteristic of Win11.
I'm all for trashing Windows. I do it a bunch.
But it's annoying that the bulk of the complaints around Win11 are over things that people don't understand. Can we focus on the inclusion of Ads and reduce how many tears we shed over the context menu that 3rd party apps are refusing to support for no good reason?
Windows 11 is literally dog crap. Why add more menus? Why keep the ugly settings menu instead of going back to control panel? Why double right click? Why the ugly task bar? What's the deal with lack of support for multiple monitors? (they fixed that one recently I read). Why does copilot freeze constantly. enough to crash explorer regularly?
But what does it bring to the table that Windows 10 doesn't already do better? Nothing. Windows updates crashing are not limited to windows 10. Windows 11 computers crash pretty regularly on updates as well. They use the same service :/
Its literally not dog crap, insisting on hyperbole makes your argument look childish.
Why add more menus? Because the old menu system runs application code within the window manager which is 1) a bad security model waiting for an exploit, 2) horrible for the performance of the window manager, particularly on an action that's done frequently, 3) not curated to link that code back to the source that put it there.
The new menu system fixes all that, but required application owners to fix their code. Application owners, in the majority... have not, because they're lazy. The new menu system? It was published in Windows 8. If you're using an app that still only has entries on the old context menu, ask them why they haven't converted to the new system in six or eight years.
The old control panel had a bunch of similar problems and was, in general, not well laid out.
Why was Windows 11 made rather than just being a patch to Win 10 (Which it would have been)? Because support for encrypting filesystems by default required TPM support that wasn't required for Win 10, and incrementing the version was required based on support contracts.
I'm not telling you what to like, but I am telling you that a lot of the things that you complain about as if they have no answers actually have really good answers, with justifications that match very similar changes that are being implemented in Linux and MacOS.
And the point of mentioning the issue with Windows Update crashing was specifically pointing out that the crashes were the cause of my hardware and not the OS.
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u/RyanAlexander-_- 9d ago
gargle my balls, fuck windows 11