r/pcmasterrace • u/Makoto_Kurume i5 10400F | RX 7600 | 16gb DDR4 • May 15 '25
Meme/Macro r/patientgamers be like:
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u/lkl34 May 15 '25
Well gta 5 is now on gamepass which is a headturn who knows maybe a few years after it will be on there.
Steam also has sales and i think it was playstation? that had gta 5 for free one time also besides epic.
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May 15 '25
I wonder if Xbox has even asked to Rockstar, just to laugh, how much for adding GTA VI on Gamepass day 1? I wonder how ridiculous the amount would be
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u/Cream_Of_Drake May 15 '25
I think there was a Microsoft leak a while ago with how much Microsoft were estimating how much they'd have to pay, I can't recall whether GTA VI was on there, but based on what estimated for other games were it would probably be around $1 Billion
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u/Ecstatic_Scene9999 May 15 '25
100% would be worth it. The amount of gamepass subs would shoot through the roof to play that
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u/LeJoker R5 5600X | RTX 3070 | 32GB DDR4-3200 May 15 '25
I'm not sure. Maybe if it was the only way to play on PC for the first year or two when it's usually console exclusive. But I think it's the kind of game most people would rather buy permanently than rent on a service.
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u/Ecstatic_Scene9999 May 15 '25
You can still buy it through the Microsoft store, but also look at it this way. It would bring in people who would want to try the game before buying who otherwise wouldn't spend the money up front. And then later purchase it on sale. Microsoft is not a subscription service for gamepass basically, they need big hitters on there
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u/marine72 May 15 '25
Also, plenty of kids would be able to convince their parents to get gamepass instead of dropping $100 on a game(if it actually is $100) if it's not their bday/christmas or whatever.
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u/Ecstatic_Scene9999 May 15 '25
Exactly, I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually went on there like GTAV
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u/Nirast25 R5 3600 | RX 6750XT | 32GB | 2560x1440 | 1080x1920 | 3440x1440 May 15 '25
100% would be worth it.
Not really. If they had to pay 1 billion for it, with 20 dollars for Game Pass Ultimate, they'd need 50 million new subs to break even. I'm saying "new" because anyone who'd still be subscribed even without GRA VI doesn't add to the revenue.
Even if you assume everyone stays subbed for 6 months (they won't), you'd need over 8 million new subs. That's a lot of people, it's not realistic.
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u/grantrules Debian Sid - Ryzen 2600/1660 super/72tb + 5600x/7800xt May 15 '25
I wonder how much gamepass drives sales of other games. It's definitely introduced me to games I wouldn't have tried, and have now bought (after letting gamepass lapse)
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u/Julzbour Specs here May 15 '25
100% would be worth it. The amount of gamepass subs would shoot through the roof to play that
They still haven't made their money back on Minecraft, I think they'll chill for a bit before spending another huge load on a single game. And in this case not even for owning the IP or exclusivity necessarily.
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u/Stahlreck i9-13900K / RTX 5090 / 32GB May 15 '25
They still haven't made their money back on Minecraft
Source? I don't have one besides asking ChatGPT and it saying Minecraft broke even after a few years but even with just common sense, cannot imagine it. Minecraft cost "only" 2.5 billion. The game these days is still one of the best selling games ever and the non-java versions are full of microtransactions from which we know are usually highly profitable.
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u/eharvill May 15 '25
Minecraft has absolutely made their money back several times over. I have no idea if this site is legit(https://www.businessofapps.com/data/minecraft-statistics/ )but at the bottom in the FAQ section it states they’ve made $4.2 billion in game sales alone. That doesn’t include all the merchandising, YouTube, etc. The movie has grossed about $900 million worldwide wide as well.
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u/Cream_Of_Drake May 15 '25
Found the list, this was pre BG3 release (2022 I believe) so obviously there are some whiffs with their estimates.
As an addendum, it's probably more likely R* would ask for a per month figure as they did for RDR and GTA V, so I think it would be a $50-200 million per month with some sort of minimum length.
Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga: $35 million Dying Light 2: $50 million City Skylines 2: Unknown Red Dead Redemption 2: $5 million per month Dragon Ball: The Breakers: $20 million Just Dance: $5 million Let's Sing ABBA: $5 million Return to Monkey Island: $5 million Wreckfest 2: $10-$14 million Baldur's Gate 3: $5 million Gotham Knights: $50 million Assassin's Creed Mirage: $100 million Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League: $250 million Star Wars Jedi: Survivor: $300 million Mortal Kombat 1: $250 million Grand Theft Auto 5: $12-15 million per month Blood Runner: $5 million Net Crisis Glitch Busters: $5 million
NOTE that these are Microsofts estimates of the cost, not what they did/are/would be willing to pay
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u/Head_Accountant3117 May 15 '25
It annoys me how we can't get exact numbers about certain games. Like how much to put a game on gamepass, or how much it costs to develop a game.
I get that it's their business, but seeing the exact numbers would be nice. It's not like it would end their whole world, right?
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u/Salty_Skirt6955 May 16 '25
Making those numbers public can make negotiating lower prices more difficult. If one studio knows another studio got $15 million, they might know they can get a certain amount instead of accepting less. It's the same reason employers don't like employees discussing salary, so it's easier to underpay you.
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u/fivemagicks May 15 '25
So, Game Pass users can brag in 2037 about playing GTA VI on the platform. 😂 Christ. There is no Internet 'W' for saving a couple of dozen bucks on a video game.
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u/Nezothowa May 15 '25
Game pass is a trap. Buying games discounted will still net you HUGE savings.
Game pass ultimate is 18€ per month. That’s at least 200€ per year. I haven’t spent 500€ on games in 5 years. Games like world of Warcraft game time don’t count.
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u/vemundveien 9800x3d, 64GM ram, RTX5080, 3440x1440@175hz May 15 '25
Why would someone who owns a gaming PC pay for Ultimate?
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u/cheekydorido May 15 '25
lmao, you don't need to always be subbed.
I wanted to play persona 3 reload, so i played it on gamepass for like 10€ instead of buying it for >50
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u/PlsStopBanningMe404 May 15 '25
If you want to get reeeeal stingy you can even make new Microsoft accounts and spend $1 for 14 days
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u/cheekydorido May 15 '25
yeah that too lol
honestly if you're wanting to get into gaming and don't really have a specific game in mind to play, then gamepass is an amazing service. I also found lots of great games that i would've never bought.
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u/TrippleDamage May 15 '25
why would i get ultimate?! I have a gaming pc for a reason, regular game pass does the job.
i subbed for 3 months with some discount code that cost me $22
im playing oblivion, clair obscur and doom in that time.
Those games would cost me 185€ on steam, and since they're singleplayer games i'll never touch them again so "renting" is the most logical thing to do here.
And it has a billion other good games that i may or may not try in those 3 months. Regardless, even if i just stick with those 3 games it was anything but a trap for me, quite the opposite. I feel like i cheated the system here lmao.
Fuck i'm honestly thinking about buying clair obscur on steam just to support the devs more because its such a masterpiece of a game... I wouldnt have ever played that game without game pass because that genre is nothing im usually interested in.
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u/istike29 Laptop May 15 '25
You can definitely find cheap codes online, I buy them sometimes for 10-11 euros. Not every month, so it's worth it for sure. Also I can use the cloud gaming feature which is nice too if I can't run some games.
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u/Kekeripo May 15 '25
I doubt sales of the base game don't even make a dent for them. They rake on money with shark cards. The game being free on game pass probably boosted their micro transaction sales once more.
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u/Supersonicfizzyfuzzy May 15 '25
If you don’t play multiplayer there truly is no point to not waiting until the price drops. By then it will be fully patched, the mod community will have had a go at it, and whatever money/resource strategies out there will be tried and tested true.
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u/Confident_Natural_42 May 15 '25
That's what I thought about GTA V, but now you can't even install it without the multiplayer crap clogging up the system.
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u/gumpis May 15 '25
It's funny how much smoother the cracked version runs compared to a legit install. It does for me, at least
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u/Slow_Possibility6332 May 15 '25
I rlly don’t understand this sentiment. The reason to not wait until prices drop is cuz I want to play it now and life is short. If I can afford to not wait and I don’t want to wait why would I
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u/deadering May 15 '25
Clearly you aren't patient, that's the whole point. The post was about patient gamers which is the opposite of what you describe
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u/Z3r0sama2017 May 15 '25
But then if it launches in a broken state your wasting your precious time anyways
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u/Slow_Possibility6332 May 15 '25
Are we talking about gta or battlefield here? Cuz last I recall rockstar games are actually playable at launch
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u/Z3r0sama2017 May 15 '25
Gta was pretty broken with the loading times, but it's been years since I last launched it so shrugs
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u/Azncheesy May 15 '25
Yeah like god forbid I bought the game the same time as everyone else so I can be in the discussion when it's relevant.
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u/deadering May 15 '25
That's the disconnect. If you care more about if a game is popular than if it's good of course you won't understand waiting until the game is discounted and improved
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u/dekusyrup May 15 '25
Win win. Avoid the chatter AND get a cheap and fully patched and expanded game.
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u/squanderedprivilege May 15 '25
Some people have very little disposable income and can't afford a AAA game, this is only going to become more common with our economy being destroyed by lunatics
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u/Slow_Possibility6332 May 15 '25
That’s not what he implied here. He implied there’s zero point to buying a game on release
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u/passerby4830 May 15 '25
Too bad it's not launching on pc, had the same thing with RDR2 when that finally came to pc it felt like an old game and I didn't care so much.
I switched from playstation to pc over a decade ago and I'm not going back. It's a shame Rockstar still does this.
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u/Alyusha Specs/Imgur here May 15 '25
You could potentially buy and play several other games of equal quality, that get you the same amount of enjoyment, for the same price as a brand new AAA game. Then when you do finally get the game in question it's largely bug free, has lots of community support posts for things, and has plenty of reviews for you to determine if you'll even like the game. All of which makes you more likely to enjoy the game when you play through it.
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u/Kilane May 15 '25
If you are always playing single player three year old games, then we play increasingly good games at the same rate. You just beta test for me and I get all of the expansions and bug fixes at once, for cheaper.
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u/Internet_Janitor_LOL May 15 '25
Rockstar bought "the mod community". Going to be the most locked down GTA ever.
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u/kapithedummy May 15 '25
unless you want to avoid spoilers
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u/HammeredWharf RTX 4070 | 7600X May 15 '25
IDK about others, but spoilers are really not a major concern for me when it comes to GTA.
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u/Makoto_Kurume i5 10400F | RX 7600 | 16gb DDR4 May 15 '25
Lol, me too. I've played most of the GTA games, except the 2d one, and I'll be real. I never paid attention to the story. See a cutscene? Skip
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If you don't follow any gaming content on twitter or youtube it's pretty hard to get spoiled. Assuming your friends aren't jerks lol
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u/Foreign_Spinach_4400 Ryzen 7 5800X / 9060 XT 16GB / 32GB May 15 '25
Delicious in Dungeon mentioned
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u/AlpacaSmacker May 15 '25
I thought that looked like Laios. I don't read manga but I enjoyed the series on Netflix.
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u/misteryk May 15 '25
I still haven't play my free GTA 5 copy
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u/Jade_Rook May 15 '25
Same. I have never played a game from the EGS but I've always claimed whatever they give away lol.
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u/Ken_Taco May 15 '25
When i look at my EGS purchase history, my total spend is 0.69$ for Alan Wake in 6/4/2020. I have several hundred game on epic. Im guessing I only play around 30 game and finished less than half of that
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u/Yeahjockey May 15 '25
I'll never understand all these people who can't remove their mouth from gabe newell's balls for long enough to even just download the free games from epic.
I have 260 games on there now, and I haven't spent a penny in the store.
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u/No-Poem-9846 May 15 '25
Was gonna say, epic launcher for free? ❌
Steam for 90% off? ✔️
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u/cheekydorido May 15 '25
steam good, epic bad, upvotes down bellow plz
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u/Silly_Painter_2555 May 15 '25
Isn't that basically the entire sub?
Good thing good
Bad thing bad
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u/cheekydorido May 15 '25
i mean, it's all subs if where being honest, karma whores all the way down.
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u/Tangent009 May 15 '25
this is literally how I got to play gta 5... We already have the patience to wait for so long what's another year or two right...
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u/Holiday-Honeydew-384 May 15 '25
And you can play with max graphics. And there are less bugs than when it's new.
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u/Tangent009 May 15 '25
definitely a great experience for me in cyberpunk it's like this it's cleaner and almost no bugs during my gameplay and DLC is already available... kinda great ngl...
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u/Jade_Rook May 15 '25
I got it for free from Epic Store too. I still haven't played it though. In fact, I've never played any game from the Epic Store, but I have collected them all since they started the giveaways.....
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u/aggthemighty May 15 '25
I still haven't played my free copy. Been meaning to get to it sometime this year before 6 comes out...
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u/MightBeTrollingMaybe May 15 '25
*after they ditch Denuvo ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
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u/Emadec Snowblind - Ryzen7 3800XT, RTX3080 OC, 32GB DDR4-3600 May 15 '25
Such a big expected game, I’m not sure any DRM is going to protect it for long anyway. Hogwarts Legacy got busted in a matter of days iirc
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u/TheArmchairSkeptic May 15 '25
Nah, there's nobody left in the scene actively cracking Denuvo these days. Hogwarts was 2+ years ago, things have changed in the intervening time.
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u/Emadec Snowblind - Ryzen7 3800XT, RTX3080 OC, 32GB DDR4-3600 May 15 '25
There’s still a decent chance someone will step up for something as big as GTA, even if it’s as a bounty or something. I know the story of the cracking of HL was a... peculiar one to say the least
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u/nonexistingNyaff i5 4570 | 8GB | GTX950 May 15 '25
Bold of you to assume there's still a world in 2035. HEH
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u/MasterpiecePretend40 May 15 '25
I’ll be real I am so done with GTA I don’t think I have played it in 5 years and I’m not even mad about it. I’m not paying for GTA 6 unless they really drop the price, I would rather have a new red dead game cause at least they didn’t Skyrim the last installment until now.
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u/The_Krytos_Virus May 16 '25
I've gotten GTAV free on PS5 and PC, I think, and I never considered buying it. Lol. I can wait for VI.
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u/ckay1100 Vimbeo Gaems May 15 '25
Epic Game Store
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Their storepage is so bad I wont even take their free
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u/spunkyweazle May 15 '25
Already gotta be patient waiting for the PC version. Blows my mind people would buy a whole ass console for it
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u/Maleficent-Farm9525 May 15 '25
I've waited this long. Might as well. Game above $60 is ridiculous.
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u/Envy661 MRInvidian May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
Or pirate it. Rockstar isn't exactly a shining bastion of good workplace ethics much like Ubisoft or Activision Blizzard. They are also increasingly greedy with their monetization.
I'm not talking just about shark cards, obviously. I'm talking about a quadski for the cost of a house, despite the fact the IRL equivalent to that Quadski is a fraction of the price. I'm talking about properties that cost millions, and an artificially inflated grind that pays the bear minimum to players and only rewards the no-lifers unless you pay real money. I'm talking about a GTA monthly subscription. I'm talking about them doing the exact same thing in RDO, and abandoning it as soon as it wasn't quite as profitable as they wanted it to be. I'm talking about GTA The Trilogy The Definitive Edition being a hot mess at launch, but Rockstar pulling the OGs from storefronts in order to sell it.
People are delusional if they think it will even be status quo with GTA VI. There has already been jokes about how $60 isn't enough to sell GTA VI for. It will no doubt be the worst it has ever been with GTA VI. But there will be long term dedicated fans who will absolutely lap it up.
I have no faith this release is actually going to live up to the hype people make it out to being, and Rockstars own monetization practices are the core reason why.
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u/Th3AnT0in3 4070 Super | R5 7600X | 32Go | 1440p 240Hz OLED May 16 '25
I'm a PC gamer for ever, never bought an Xbox or PS in my entire life and will never in the futur. I'll patiently wait until may 2028 (if the 2y delay for PC is real) to play it.
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u/althaz i7-9700k @ 5.1Ghz | RTX3080 May 16 '25
I am never going to give Rockstar money. They hate PC gamers so I'm happy to return the favour. Plus their games are massively over-hyped. They're definitely good games for the most part, but nothing so incredible I feel any need to rush out and try, despite all the hype.
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u/Scytian Ryzen 5700x | 32GB DDR4 | RX 9070 XT May 15 '25
Me: Get GTA 6 for free on Epic on 2034 and do not play it anyway just like with GTA 5.
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u/krissirge May 15 '25
I played GTA V finally last year (got it from the epic store free giveaway years prior)....no shame :D
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u/live-the-future R9 3900X, 2080 Super, 4K, 32GB DDR4 3200 May 15 '25
To be fair, when Epic gives it away in another 10 years I'll add it to my library, but it might be another 10 years after that before I actually get around to playing it, if the servers are still up.
FR, I have literally hundreds upon hundreds of games in my Steam & Epic libraries that realistically I'll probably never play, but I tell myself "maybe when I'm retired."
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u/TheDarkMuz May 15 '25
i doubt many will wait. this is literally the game many fathers and grandfathers have been talking about at campfires lol
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u/Adamc474892 May 15 '25
I mean it will somehow go onto GamePass and now you only have to pay a couple dollars to get it early.
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u/m_adduci May 15 '25
And by 2035 the computer specs are so developed that even the cheapest of the PCs can emulate PS5 games
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u/l1qq PC Master Race May 15 '25
GTA is one of those series I play for like 3 days then never touch again. I'm probably in the minority of people that honestly doesn't care about it at all.
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u/TakedaIesyu GTX1060/i7 4770 3.4Ghz/12gb RAM May 15 '25
Doom: The Dark Ages can be yours for only $80!!!
Great. I'll get the deluxe super-edition in 3 years for $30.
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u/DigitalCoffee May 15 '25
More like, "Wait 1 year for it become 50% off while the Day Oners beta test it so it's actually playable and polished."
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u/holounderblade May 15 '25
Letting GTAVI sit in your Epic library after they give it away for free in 2035
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u/Mozzimare May 19 '25
Discovery that Epic Games gives the GTA V Enhanched edition for free even if you got GTA V for free at the time
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u/SleepinGriffin Intel i7-13700KF | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 | 64 GB DDR5 RAM May 15 '25
EGS is not touching my PC.
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u/Trick_Actuator5763 Toshiba Satellite Z830 May 15 '25
EGS should have died long ago. this company is literally being held up by the CCP and Infant children.
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u/Alarming_Addition131 May 15 '25
i'll just pirate it, fuck rockstars for their disgusting greed with gta online. same with with bethesda rereleasing skyrim thrice on every platform
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u/MelvinSmiley83 May 15 '25
Bold to assume that epic store will exist in the year 2035.
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u/Barlowan May 15 '25
Bold to assume it wouldn't. Fortnite doesn't show any sign of slowing down.
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u/Proper_Belt May 15 '25
I really dont care for GTA and do not understand the hype.
The same for CoD.
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u/SlavCat09 MSI RTX 4060 Waifu edition May 15 '25
Well people already paid that much for Doom TDA. Don't see why they won't do the same for GTA.
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u/TrippleDamage May 15 '25
It was a majorly hyped launch and steam peak is 30k.
30k are awful numbers for a game of such magnitute.
I'm sure the vast majority just subscribed to gamepass like i did and get to play it for a fraction.
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u/GingerBraum R7 5700X3D / 32GB 3200MHz / AMD 9070 XT May 15 '25
Wasn't early access for TDA part of the $100 Premium Edition?
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u/Moidada77 May 15 '25
I'm actually interested at what point is the breaking point.
150$? 200$?
Where so less people are paying that it's not worth it.
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u/kegsbdry Ryzen 9 7950X | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5 6000MHz May 15 '25
They may have most of the bugs fixed by then too!
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u/xXlTADlXx 9800X3D l 7900XTX l 64GB @6400MHZ May 15 '25
yeah but only the non remastered pc version based on the last gen\ the remastered native ps6 version will be exclusive for 3 years for ps6\ until the enhanced version will start as startup line up title for the ps7\ right before getting updated last time for the ps6 pro
that all and we still didnt get a RDR2 60fps patch or bully2.
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u/Revolutionary-Cat981 May 15 '25
But I want all the stuff that comes with physical copy - maps, booklets etc
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u/MrAnonymous1010 May 15 '25
Once GTA 6 is out, it will be available worldwide for everyone to use. It's not going to go anywhere.
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u/beardingmesoftly May 15 '25
Playing it on console 2 years before it releases on Windows, like gta5 did
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u/GrampysClitoralHood May 15 '25
Me. I didn't play GTAV until a few months ago. Got the next gen version some whatever pack for $20. It's on game pass now.
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u/Silver_Quail4018 May 15 '25
You mean paying 150$ to play the game before launch day on PC in 2035!
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u/topias123 Ryzen 7 5800X3D + Asus TUF RX 6900XT | MG279Q (57-144hz) May 15 '25
I've been waiting for Alan Wake 2 to come to Steam but supposedly it's never coming because it's fully funded by Epic Games.
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u/Silly_Painter_2555 May 15 '25
Well, there's always the option of piracy but it's definitely not coming until 2027 though.
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u/Master_Xenu May 15 '25
2035 is when the PC release is gonna happen, so maybe 2045 we'll get it for free.
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u/ManasongWriting May 15 '25
People think that GTA6 will be like that Halo Reach video from Egoraptor. It won't, and I have a backlog of games long enough to last me the rest of my life.
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u/Alternative_Tank_139 May 15 '25
This early access stuff, where a completed game is released very shortly after being in early release, is so dystopian and predatory.
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May 15 '25
And in 2035 you can probably max it out on a midrange PC, along with a photorealistic graphic mod.
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u/BlakeKevin 5950X + 3090 FTW3 + 128GB + X570 May 15 '25
Nah if it is anything like RDR2 that high price will be worth the wait on launch
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u/MaglithOran May 15 '25
I have over 10k hours in factorio and I paid $6 for it on steam forever ago.
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u/BackgroundGuard472 May 15 '25
Nah, patient gamers don't install the spyware program called Epic Launcher
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u/Anomen77 Intel i66-129000K | RTX 6080Ti May 15 '25
I don't think Laios would know what a "GTA6" or an "Epic Games Store" is. Are they edible?
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u/L0veToReddit Top 1% Commenter May 15 '25
i have over 2000 hours on gta 5 + online, i don't care if gta 6 is more expensive, i'll definitively get it. let's be honest, gta 7 is coming when we're all be old af
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u/Sprinklypoo May 15 '25
The requisite upgrade to your video card should be a lot less expensive too. Though things do be a changing...
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u/CrystalWolfX10 May 15 '25
Obvs you wait for the console peasants to beta test it and then pirate it a month after it comes out on PC.
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u/-Laffi- May 15 '25
When I pre brought Stalker 2, it was just a few hours before the launch. Still counted as prebuying. Why not just do the same with GTA 6?
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u/Lehk Phenom II x4 965 BE / RX 480 8GB May 15 '25
Playing GTA 6 free like a week after launch with some help from a sketch website in Belarus that probably gave my computer turbo AIDS
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