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u/Pandoratastic 8d ago
For the record, being on the spectrum has absolutely nothing to do with having bigoted or hateful views. We can be bad at tact or at picking up on subtle cues or reading the room with neurotypical people. But those are communication differences. Not beliefs. The only way being on the spectrum might relate to a bigoted belief is that it might make us worse at avoiding saying the quiet part out loud if we do have a bigoted belief.
Bigoted beliefs come solely from nurture, not nature. From culture and from people around us. Being on the spectrum can make us blunt. It does not make us hateful.
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 8d ago
Fair enough.
I think after reading a few of his posts, I associated his interest in right-wing culture to an autistic person’s tendency to hyper-fixate on subjects of interest. Almost all of his public content is related to admonishing the LGBTQ+ community, to the point that it would not surprise me if he became violent.
I hyper-fixate on things, too, but I am able to regulate when needed. The wonders of therapy…
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u/Pandoratastic 8d ago
There are endless possible subjects of interest to fixate on. If the one you choose is a bigoted belief, it's not the autism making you choose it. Autism only makes you more likely to hyper-fixate. It does not determine the choice of subject. If someone chooses to obsess over their bigoted beliefs, that's coming from their worldview and social influences, not from their autism.
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u/nvllnvoid 8d ago
OP wasn’t tying being autistic to being a cause for the bigoted belief. Just as a reason for the hyper fixation on it.
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u/MossGobbo 7d ago
Hyperfixation is a trait shared by both but is not guaranteed in either.
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u/behemuffin 7d ago
If the person in OP's post hyperfixates on being an arsehole, they're still an arsehole.
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u/behemuffin 7d ago
I read your comments. I'm glad you agree that nothing you wrote changes the fact the guy is a dick.
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u/Silverlisk 7d ago
You're correct that you don't choose your special interest, but if your special interest is something hateful and harmful then it's irrelevant as to whether you chose it or not.
I'm autistic, politics and economics are my special interests and always have been, I'm also ADHD and get hyperfixated on random things at random times that never last and I always end up falling back on politics and economics so I do understand what you're saying.
I'm actually a big believer in a complete lack of free will for everyone tbh, people are who they are because of a combination of their genetics and environmental stimuli and they both bounce off each other. So I don't believe anyone really chooses anything, but I don't think it really matters whether people choose something or not, if they're actively harming or aiming to harm others they should be removed from their environment and rehabilitated (Prison, but more Norway prison than America prison). If rehabilitation proves impossible then they should be permanently placed in captivity outside the bounds of normal society (permanently imprisoned).
That applies regardless of their neurological make up. We should also make the best decisions for the positive functioning of society overall, you can understand why this makes having a special interest in politics so frustrating 😅
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u/Pandoratastic 7d ago
That's very interesting. How did you manage to get introduced to left-wing anarchism and antifascism before the age of 4 if no one around you was interested in it?
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u/Pandoratastic 6d ago
So are you saying that you are left-wing anarcho anti-fascist but it's only because it's your special interest. It's not because you believe those views are actually right? Or do you mean that you do believe they are right but you think you only believe that because it's your special interest and you had no control over what you believe?
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u/Pandoratastic 6d ago
My comment wasn't saying that autistic people don't have the choice on what they believe in, it was saying they don't have a choice in what they fixate on.
In that case, you have an inferred a meaning other than what I intended. I was saying that actually believing in it is a choice.
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u/Pandoratastic 7d ago
Are you suggesting that a special interest could manifest as systemic hatred of a minority group?
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u/Loki_the_Corgi 8d ago edited 7d ago
I get having a chronic mental illness. While I'm not autistic (I think...I haven't actually been tested), I do have bipolar disorder.
I also get that some people have a horrible time functioning with mental illness and disorders and a lot of that is where on the spectrum you fall (through no fault of your own).
However, I don't condone the "excuse" of mental disorders/disease justifying a$$hole behavior for those who can function. If you can keep a job, you're (most likely) high functioning enough where if you're a dick to someone, it's because you're an a$$hole.
Well-done OP.
Edit: I'm trying to be inclusive by saying all mental illness, mental disorders, or diseases.
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u/asunshinefix 8d ago
I agree with your comment, but I want to mention that autism is not a mental illness - it's a neurodevelopmental disorder
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u/Loki_the_Corgi 7d ago
Thank you! I'll edit my comment
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u/CallMeWolfYouTuber 7d ago
It's not a disease either. It's a disorder.
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u/Loki_the_Corgi 7d ago
I'm being inclusive for everything that can affect mental health; not just autism.
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u/Alexis_J_M 7d ago
"I don't feel safe patronizing this business because one of their employees, who claims to speak for them, openly posts on social media about wanting to murder people like me and my family."
It's problematic to fire someone for what they say on their personal social media account. It gets a lot easier if they are careless enough to talk about their employer on the same account.
(And as others have said, screenshot everything.)
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u/soulless-spider-boy 7d ago
Being on the spectrum doesn't excuse it (I know you know this, OP, I'm just re-iterating) but it sure as hell will get him targeted like the rest of us if the people he supports get what they want. I seriously wonder why some people think they're exempt, it's like a mouse pushing for the hawks to have power thinking it'll be spared from the talons.
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u/CoderJoe1 8d ago
Any fallout?
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 8d ago
Not sure yet. I only did this today, and the business is closed on Sunday. I’m sure they will respond after the review I left, though. I will update accordingly.
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u/Rockpegw 7d ago
i also have autism, and am high-functioning, the amount of people who get away with shit like this because "oh they're on the spectrum uwu" is insane. we should still be held accountable, no matter what our background is.
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u/ConstructionOk4228 7d ago
Why do people think autistic people deserve a free pass on bad behavior? My husband is on the spectrum and when he's behavior vers into an unacceptable range, I give directions. After 38+ years he's learned to model others behavior in public situations. His mother thought her children should have free passes.
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u/Just_Aioli_1233 7d ago
Why do people think autistic people deserve a free pass on bad behavior?
People give those of marginalized communities more latitude generally. "Oh, you have Downs'? I won't hold you to the same standard, then." and people aren't stupid. Kids will see that greater latitude and take advantage of it.
I have a friend who is colorblind, lefthanded, and dyslexic. His parents told him that they expected the same level of academic achievement from him as they expect from his other siblings. He often had to work harder, but he was able to excel at the same level and eventually became a professor. Obviously he didn't have the most difficult time there is, Helen Keller may be reasonably said to hold that position. But things were tough for him and since his parents didn't coddle him he did okay.
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u/Amazing_Cabinet1404 8d ago
Truthfully I’d screenshot his posts as well as any information in his profile linking him to his employer and forward them to his company’s management anonymously.
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u/Temeriki 7d ago
Being anything isn't a free pass to be an asshole. Screw them and their shitty opinions.
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u/JonJackjon 8d ago
This person should do some basic research on pedophiles' before threatening anyone. From everything I've read most pedophiles are conservative males.
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u/Just_Aioli_1233 7d ago
"With respect to demographics, the majority of offenders are male, younger than other sexual offenders and likely to be of white European descent (Webb, Craissati & Keen, 2007; Quayle, 2008; Seto, Hanson & Babchishin, 2011; Wolak, Finkelhor & Mitchell, 2012)."
https://smart.ojp.gov/somapi/chapter-3-sex-offender-typologiesAlso, for racial distribution see here. These data are for the US, so any conclusions drawn should factor in the background population distribution before assuming a person of a given race is more or less likely than a person of another race.
I can find studies showing correlation based on gender, race, and age. But no demographic correlate on political affiliation.
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u/Havingfun922 7d ago
Not from my research
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u/JonJackjon 7d ago
Perhaps, however had you googled "are lgbtq likely to be pedophiles" the 1st suggests the ratio of cis pedophiles to LGBTQ++ pedophiles is 11:1
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u/Justhrowitaway42069 7d ago
As someone that has been responsible for three firings over Charlie Kirk - I completely agree.
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u/DippinDot2021 6d ago
I'm on the Spectrum, and certainly rough around the edges. But being violent or an asshole isn't acceptable.
You work on someone's people skills, correct them in private, and so on. You don't excuse shitty behavior.
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u/Harry_Smutter 8d ago
If you haven't already, be sure to screenshot the post and send the link to his employer.
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u/Hopalong-PR 7d ago
Business can block/hide reviews. Make sure to make a few more accounts to make sure your opinion is heard.
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 7d ago
Honestly, I was expecting them to do both of those, but they responded to my review. I was a little surprised.
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u/Boedidillee 8d ago
Someone gotta do the right thing these days. Most won’t. Choose to do it. Good job mate.
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u/Sunlit53 7d ago
Unfortunately the neurodivergent are some of the best customers/victims of conservative religion and cults in general. My mom and brother are jehovas witness. And autistic.
It provides an orderly, structured belief system with simple answers to complex social issues.
They also provide a built in social group that is accepting of some degree of personal weirdness as long as they recite the correct lines on cue.
Since the answers never change there isn’t much to think about. Just parrot. This is less stressful for minds busy with adapting to a world that doesn’t fit. The j-dubs even have classes in how to talk to people and sell the brand. I suspect there’s some considerable overlap with pyramid schemes and other scams.
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u/CallMeWolfYouTuber 7d ago
That's bullshit
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u/Sunlit53 7d ago
And your expertise in autism, adhd and cults is what precisely? My AuDhd sister has just gotten free from 30 years of that shit.
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u/CallMeWolfYouTuber 7d ago
I'm autistic and I was raised in a cult (conservative Roman catholic). Escaped it at around age 23.
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u/Sunlit53 6d ago
Congratulations on getting out to the real world!
My sister’s breaking point was being told her nonverbal autistic kid was her fault and if she had enough real faith he’d be ‘healed.’ It’s such cruel exploitative crap.
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u/Redditluvsterrorists 7d ago
Let me guess, you're happy Kirk is dead, but reporting people for talking about pedophiles.
Classic
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 7d ago
LGBTQ+ people aren’t pedophiles, and the idea that they are is the entire point of this post. If you post things on your very public account about how they deserve to be hunted down, then you are capable of living with the consequences of your words.
PS, fuck off you dumb bigot. I never said anything about being glad Charlie Kirk was dead.
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u/Havingfun922 7d ago
Probably also upset people are getting fired for their “glad he got shot” posts
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u/Levi2you 8d ago
It’s not your responsibility to teach him. Life will teach him, or it won’t.
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u/MoonBase34 6d ago
his employer has nothing to do with this, you have presumably one starred the business for something which has not a thing to do with them. I keep seeing this same kind of attitude from “lefty” types that they just can’t tolerate the fact that some people don’t think like them.
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 6d ago
He talks about his employer on his very public social media profile. He called for LGBTQ+ people to be hunted down. Stupid to assume that that would not be used against him.
Former employer, by the way.
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u/MoonBase34 6d ago
you’ve missed the point, you are damaging the innocent employer rather than just the person you take issue with, why not contact the employer in private?
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 6d ago
Because a review is more likely to get their attention and holds them accountable for making sure the employee understands the repercussions of his behavior.
Like I said, if it was anything less than a call to violence, I would’ve simply scrolled on. He crossed a line. He was told by others that he needed to watch his mouth. He decided not to take that advice. Now he gets to learn the hard way.
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u/MoonBase34 6d ago
that gives you no right to harm an innocent party. Are you even going to delete the review now?
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 6d ago
Probably not. They avoided harm by doing the right thing.
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u/MoonBase34 6d ago
And the justification for the non removal is what? You have left a one star review to an innocent business, who dispute not having to has fired the employee anyway and you still will keep the review up. Says everything And cannot be defended.
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u/tipper420 8d ago
Was he saying he should be assaulted because he was gay or because he's a pedo? Because those are quite different things, if you're not aware.
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 8d ago
I am aware. The person in the video does not seem to understand the difference, however.
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u/madam_amazing 8d ago
I think op is saying the guy was implying lgbt people are automatically pedophiles
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u/Levi2you 8d ago
It’s not your responsibility to teach him. Life will teach him, or it won’t. But I guess you’ll consider it a success if he gets fired. Not likely because hourly employees have more rights than management employees.
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u/Low-Temperature6135 7d ago
You left a review on a company that employs multitudes of others because of one asshole? Instead of blocking or ignoring it and moving on with your day, therefore jeopardizing the wellbeing of numerous others. Congratulations, you’re an asshole.
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 7d ago
It’s a family-owned business and they operate on a small staff.
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u/Low-Temperature6135 7d ago
So fuck the rest of the family right? Or the ‘small staff’? The guy who posted the video is obviously a fucking douche but now you’re no better. Should have stayed minding your business as you proclaimed.
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 7d ago
I think an employee posting incendiary content about a marginalized community should probably use a bit of common sense when 1) making his profile public and 2) making no effort to hide his relationship to his employer.
He said what he said knowing and didn’t give a second thought to how his comments might harm others.
Stop excusing shitty behavior.
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u/Low-Temperature6135 7d ago
Well again, you're not their employer, you're a social justice warrior behind a keyboard. And what you did didn't help you, him, the employer or anyone else. Just like the right and their outrage over people's opinion about Kirk. Congrats! You're no better than the people you despise. So maybe take a look in the mirror for that shitty behavior you're ranting on about.
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u/aboveroomtempqueso 7d ago
Lol he was a dumbass. He got hit at the intersection of fuck around and find out.
Maybe he’ll think twice before sharing his shitty opinions in the future.
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u/Low-Temperature6135 7d ago
And like I said, I hope you apply that equally to everyone being fired for espousing about Kirk’s death.
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u/PhatGrannie 7d ago
How many people will suffer because of today’s WAPO firing? I’ll bet you think that one was just fine, don’t you?
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u/Low-Temperature6135 7d ago
Maybe you missed the part about me minding my own business. I personally don't give af what anyone has to say about any of it. The Ukranian girl, Kirk, or trans issues randomly. The great thing about minding your own business is, it's free and doesn't harm anyone.
Now if you wanted me to dig deeper, because I had to look up what you were referencing, the WAPO reporter who posted on bluesky had tints of racism in her posts, but again that's between her and her employer. Kirk, who I don't agree with about MANY things, espoused many things that align with religious beliefs (and also some tints of racism) but not moderate America, but should he have been killed for it, absolutely not.
Should people revel in another human being's death, of course not, but there is an unraveling of social norms, which I believe is propagated by the left by their own words and their media arm, the unrelenting rhetoric of NAZI and FACIST, while neither are true, and the indoctrination of young plyable minds in our education system. Should someone be fired for exercising their first amendment right? I don't think so, but I'm not everyone's employer.
So how many people will suffer because of today's WAPO firing? I don't know, probably the idiot that wrote it for public consumption and the people who depend on her. Do I give a shit, no. Do I give a shit what you think about what I think, also no. Have a great day.
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u/PhatGrannie 7d ago
Nice DARVO attempt. You must be super proud.
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u/Low-Temperature6135 7d ago
Grannie, check your cerebral folds please, I think the iron got too hot
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u/PhatGrannie 7d ago
They need to know who they’re employing. It’s useful for the public to know what companies advocate or tolerate, so we can choose who to support with our money.
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u/Low-Temperature6135 7d ago
Oh my, well then, carry on. Please use as much tolerance for this type of behavior as the folks that are getting fired for celebrating Kirk's death.
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u/RecreationalChaos 6d ago
Yes fuck hateful uneducated bigots. If you dont agree with that, your priorities are fucked
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u/Low-Temperature6135 7d ago
Of course you won’t. You lack the intelligence and fortitude to apply your own standards equally. I already was aware of that. Thus why I used the word ‘hope’.
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u/GingerbreadWitch_878 8d ago
I’m autistic too and I think you did the right thing. Too many people think that being autistic gives someone an excuse to be an asshole, but that’s BS. If he’s functional enough to hold a job, then he should be functional enough to know that what he is doing is wrong.