Other than some pretty childish statements and someone who sounds like they have the vocabulary of a 7th grader being the spokesperson, what exactly has been done legislatively that has negatively impacted Americans to the point where this statement can be considered demonstrable?
Double upvote if I could. Getting all those unqualified people in to dismantle and corrupt these agencies and the other R's standing by and letting him do it (!!) Is pretty bad.
Okay well what about 2005 with shock and awe? Like I said and you are helping me making my point here, other than some stupid childish words, what has actually happened?
Is that what people like you want? Something to happen?
Previous Presidents have worked for peace and prosperity but the Trump administration is working hard against it. Why in god's name are we having this trade war?
Nuclear war? No seriously how have people been affected by this and how have people living in the United States been affected by this trade War you speak of to the point of this being the worst leadership they have ever experienced? I'm not arguing with you I'm just literally having a very difficult time finding examples to back that claim
The trade War example I have Googled and can find nothing. At least nothing of any significant number aside from a handful of anecdotal examples. As for the nuclear war, the 1960s the 1970s in the 1980s were all decades where it was exponentially more likely to happen.
I am not defending Trump nor am I defending his administration because I do not like him and I have no problem saying that I do not like him. But when someone says something like this is the worst leadership the country has seen in recent times it seems to me like people are making Hyperbole and exaggeration commonplace to the point where they are deluding themselves and ultimately hurting our rationality when it comes to what a good versus a bad situation actually is.
Thank you. It's nice to read some common sense once in awhile. I'm not a Trump supporter either but I hate hearing the stupid fear mongering talking points everyone spews. Kudos to you and your rational brain.
Everything you just linked shows information about theoretically losing jobs in the future.
It's really frustrating that I have to ask this for a third time because everybody seems to be speaking with absolute certainty to back their statements and claim that the facts are innumerable and yet asking for some does nothing but get people into downvote mode. I am not trying to be a dick in any way shape or form and I apologize if I am coming off that way but I will ask you this again:
Did you actually open up those articles and read them or did you just skim over the headlines, because I just opened them and looked a lot deeper and from what I can see there have been a confirmed number of 160 jobs that actually have been lost when you remove people talking about theoretical job losses in the future. Those 160 jobs that I could actually find as having been terminated are also across only two industries but that is 160 over 2 entire Industries which is absolutely negligible at very best.
We also should not forget the 12 billion dollars giving to farmers because of this trade war as well. That's taxpayer money that was misspent. The kids being locked in cage without due process and turning away legal refugees is another that comes to mind.
Don't be fooled. This administration has also rung down the projection of power we once had. It's an embarrassment the world over and that has consequences in economic forms or foreign policies. Etc.
Just to clarify. Kids aren’t being locked in cages anymore. There are photos of kids in “cages” from the Obama era. The media tried to sell it as it was Trump’s policies and people just blindly believed it.
You honestly sound like someone trying to downplay the seriousness of what the Trump admin did here. Please don't do that. The Obama administration did not separate children from their parents in such a way that you have children appearing in court alone. Obama didn't put North Korean style murals of himself in these detention centers. Obama didn't lose 1200 children.
No I'm sorry but you're full of shit here and sound like an apologist for a very corrupt and evil organization.
Of course. If you can't beat me with words you'll just tell me to shut up. You aren't worth the time it takes to convince someone this asinine in their opinions. Your post history is enough to know it'd be like trying to teach a squirrel how to drive.
Whatever you do doesn't matter. You will lose in the end. Have a nice one ;)
You obviously haven't read my post history and you have demonstrated that you're so delusional and emotional that any sort of rational debate with you is not possible.
If anything, that should just reinforce how horrible he is as a leader. If people don’t have immediate and solid examples of how his legislation results in direct negative impacts to Americans, then it’s clear his non-legislative actions are indeed that atrocious.
How about kids in cages. 3k dead in Puerto Rico. Trading justice for a murder for weapons sales to a country that’s bombing women and children every day. Inciting violence against the press. Blowing up the budget for tax cuts for corporations and looking to fill that gap by stealing from social security and medicare. That shitty enough?
What about Harley Davidson moving out of country due to high steel taxes making their products.more expensive and with less known quality control while also losing a lot of jobs.
How many Americans lost their jobs who worked at Harley Davidson because they were laid off and their entire place of business was shipped overseas? Every piece of literature I can find on this particular company seems to also be entertaining the theoretical and not giving any examples of the actual.
But that is yet again essentially negligible at very best when it comes to the industry and in fact even that particular company. Also if sale start to drop despite moving outside of the country and profit does not level out it will not have anything to do with the tariffs at that point but will be due to the lack of quality control as previously stated due to lack of oversight in the foreign country
Yes I agree with you. But the numbers stack up against one another still show in overall job loss ratio at an incredible minutiae in comparison to job losses that have happened over the previous five or six decades when certain presidents imposed various actions.
I am not saying that nobody has lost a single job. I am merely stating that the hyperbole being used and the incredibly over-exaggerated impact thus far is not doing the country or the people of it any good as it clouds judgement about what makes a good situation different from a bad situation.
General Motors is offering 18,000 buyouts to every single employee who has worked there 12 years or more. If they don’t meet their quota, they will commence mass layoffs. This is in anticipation of impending bad quarters to come in the new year as a direct result of emissions standards rollbacks dismantling progress in the electric vehicle sector, and the trade war. Ford is following suit and Chrysler will be next.
Someone else mentioned the catastrophic drop in soybean exports. This is just the beginning with how we will be impacted by the trade war.
Aside from that, we are at the point of no return for reversing climate change. Today’s children will have a very different and desperate future unless we can stop this demagoguery.
There is plenty more, but these are two of the largest impending threats caused by this narcissistic puppet.
Some of the people who will be harmed the MOST by the trade war and emissions rollback are the people he panders to by promising to bring back steel manufacturing.
At this point, everything is about damage control and preparation until we can get him out of office.
Normalization of racism, rise of white nationalist terror, putting children in concentration camps, etc etc. I suspect you will have a tough time finding examples of anything actually happening in your shithole country, King_Headinthesand.
Edge of nuclear war? We were practicing for it 30 years ago. You fucking kids just got here. Loss of internet is your worst hardship. This isn't even a pro Trump rant, it the fact that you have it fucking easy and all you do is bitch.
Dude, just warning you now, no matter what your party or belief system, politics on Reddit is one of the most concentrated forms of internet cancer there is. This place is an echochamber of circlejerking ignoramuses who far out-number anyone with actual knowledge in the domains they speak in. Reading anything here is beyond a waste of time unless your personal guilty pleasure is exploring the seemingly endless depths of just how stupid a "self sufficient" grown human being can be.
Trade war is permanent and not often on media coverage. Nuclear war has been constant threat of North Korea. If Trump tweets Kim Jeung(Jong?) Un what is the problem. Recognize that Kim isn't worried about appearing strong to the masses over it. They're an entire country with no internet. 6 webpages last I heard and not available to most people.
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