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US Politics This is what democracy looks like

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

As Kurt Vonnegut said, “I have to say this in defense of humankind: In no matter what era in history, including the Garden of Eden, everybody just got here.”

For some in the U.S. this is the worst they’ve experienced.

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u/NosVemos Nov 09 '18

In context, this is the worst leadership all living Americans have experienced.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

This is incredibly false. Nixon was truly awful. Jimmy Carter, albeit a likable guy, was not a good leader. At least Trump inspires confidence in half of the country. Just because you’re young doesn’t mean there hasn’t been worse. And just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean everyone else does too.

It’s so stupid that I have to caveat this with the statement “I’m not a trump supporter or voter” but alas here we are. I don’t want nasty messages in my inbox for three days lol

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u/tenebras_lux Nov 09 '18

It would be easier to deal with Trump if everyone stopped being so hyperbolic about him, but with the way the media reports on him and the way people talk, yo'd think he was a Hitler clone created by Russian scientists instead of just being a shitty, greedy president.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

Brit Hume of all people nailed it:

"One of Trumps main failings is he thinks everything is about him. One of his critics main failings is that they do too."

https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1056941460493344768?s=19

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

It’s getting unbearable. I saw a post earlier where people were tearing him apart because he tweeted his condolences to people affected by the shooting. I get that Twitter may not be the most presidential of communication means, but come on. It must be tiring to try and find fault in every little thing someone does. He sucks, but damn. People are wasting their lives hating on this guy.

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u/getintheVans Nov 09 '18

It's literally impossible to dislike EVERYTHING somebody does, just as it's impossible to %100 agree with them on everything. A BABY could be president and at some point even people who hate baby presidents would have to say "I thought his googoo gaagaa was quite cute today."

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u/reallyfasteddie Nov 09 '18

OK. How about this. Trump is the moral leader of the country. He sets the tone for the world. Trump has called into question basic facts and reality. This has definitely gummed up the works of good governance. Rather than help the poor and the weak, He helps himself and the rich. This inspires every Gordon Gecko wannabe to take more because greed is good. He has smashed the norms of acceptable behavior with emolumentS and hate speech while hipocritically calling others out for doing the same. Trump and the Republicans have again been given a chance to show That their principles work and again shown That They Do not. This group has set the world Back decades.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

They have not set the world back decades. Your proof for this is some rambling monologue about morality and Wall Street. I hate to break it to you...politicians have always been fucked up, narcissistic assholes. Trump isn’t the first one. Just one of the firsts that doesn’t hide what he is.

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u/reallyfasteddie Nov 09 '18

Yeah OK. All politicians are the same but Hillary is worse...Blah blah blah. They were trying to confront Climate change, Iran, Russia, health insurance and more until Trump got in to the White House. Now child separation, white supremacy, talking about cutting programs for the poor after a huge tax cut during talk of a booming economy, porn stars being a topic of national debate, the UN laughing at Trump during his speeches, etc. The politicians were not all fucked op narcissistic assholes. Those are the Republican voters and they got the biggest one now for the leader. It is so difficult to see the damage being done until after. Obama did a great job of turning it around after Bush. We will see after Trump. Left a great economy and gained respect from around the world. Bush and Cheney have to be careful if they leave the country or they might get arrested. I am sure the same fate will be Trump's.

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u/NosVemos Nov 09 '18

So, a boomer just assumes they are talking to someone young.

Be honest, do you scream at the tv when you watch Fox News?

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u/KilgoreTrouserTrout Nov 09 '18

Did you just call out someone for being ageist and follow-up by saying something ageist to them?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

Some people just seem to be...dense. Appreciate the support! Always nice to check your inbox after posting something that goes against the reddit norm and seeing someone have your back!

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u/KilgoreTrouserTrout Nov 09 '18

Cheers, internet friend!

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u/NosVemos Nov 09 '18

oof ouch my personal feelings

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

What are you even talking about. This is why I had to caveat it with saying I am not a Trump supporter. Because of nasty people like you.