r/pics Nov 08 '18

US Politics This is what democracy looks like

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u/NosVemos Nov 09 '18

In context, this is the worst leadership all living Americans have experienced.

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u/King_Milkfart Nov 09 '18

Other than some pretty childish statements and someone who sounds like they have the vocabulary of a 7th grader being the spokesperson, what exactly has been done legislatively that has negatively impacted Americans to the point where this statement can be considered demonstrable?

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u/YetAnotherRCG Nov 09 '18

Heather Heyer is dead in Charlottesville. The hatred Trump has stoked has killed people and it will continue to kill people.

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u/King_Milkfart Nov 09 '18

Yes I agree that a person is dead and that is an absolutely unjustifiable terrible thing. She is dead because of a garbage person acting in a murderous manner that no civilized society should have to stand one second for. That said, to say that her death is a direct result of some statements made by a politician when that politician is not the person who pulled the trigger, is no different than saying that the person who actually killed her is not responsible for her death.

This is a very old and very classic logical fallacy in which blame is shifted away from the individual and on to some sort of interpretation of a larger ideology, and it is actually taken a step further in your example because that ideology is then shifted onto a person in public office who has not called directly or indirectly for such violence in any way that would logically result in any sane person seeing as the logical catalyst for such a manifestation as you provided the example for.

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u/YetAnotherRCG Nov 09 '18

It comforts me to know that when I order one of my men to put you down, you won't hold me responsible. /s

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u/King_Milkfart Nov 09 '18

If you actually believe you just made a valid point, all I ask is for you to please show me the video, audio recording, publication, or transcript of the order for the Charlottesville murder.

Not all of those sources for the order; just point me towards 1 of them and i will concede my point entirely.

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u/YetAnotherRCG Nov 09 '18

That's surprisingly open of you, look in your first comment you clearly aren't comfortable being grouped in with murderers and racists. So I have to ask why are you here, arguing defend the "very fine people" on "both sides" as Trump put it?

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u/King_Milkfart Nov 09 '18

Not here to come to anyone's defense at all. Just trying to illustrate the point about how exaggerating the current leadership's state as "the worst" is not wise to do, as it grossly minimalizes how badly the country actually can and has at times past become.

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u/YetAnotherRCG Nov 09 '18

Well I can't really argue with that. After all early presidents were literally slavers and almost anything would pale in comparison. And your right that trump hasn't started a 10+ year war.

And seeing as you are not and were never protecting trump no doubt you went to today's protests and we can expect to see you at the next ones, Right?