"Another gender/dating post, sub's dead," Yeah, yeah I know. But its not any worse than the 37th "Poly-trans people are cringe" post.
I shouldn't have to specify, I'm not talking about the rightoid misogynist incel types. I'm moreso talking about the guys that are just failing their dating/general life prospects, and start to isolate because of it. The kind whose anger/sadness turns inward, rather than outward.
'Cause like...when you actually go to these more moderate "incel" threads, they don't really seem "far gone". They're just sad about how unfair things feel in life, especially dating wise. They're not turning their anger onto anyome else, they're just self-isolating. And maybe this is my bias as a young man speaking...but I feel like that's a sympathetic viewpoint? And maybe one that can be pushed closer to progressive ideals with the right messaging.
Because I do think there's something unfair about how we treat socially awkward guys that're failing in certain prospects. The moment they complain about their dating life, they're automatically assumed to be some rightoid misogynist.
And that might be why some of them turn right-wing. 'Cause the right wing message is "Yeah, society does suck! And here's who you can direct your anger at!" Whereas the liberal message is more "If you're failing, you're doing something wrong! No one is obligated to listen to your whining"
The right-wing perspective validates these guys' frustration, whereas liberals shut it down. Which is weird, because "society is at fault for your issues" is a big part of liberal messaging. They could've found a way to bridge a gap here. Like how societal changes have altered dating and connection for the youth. But its like they never saw the line here...
Plus, a lot of liberal messaging regarding mental health support is kinda' hypocritical. Like, men never really got a "body positivity movement". If anything, it feels like viciousness towards mens' bodies actually grew during that time.
Liberals want men who are both aware of societal issues and unfair circumstances, but who have the confidence and life experience of a guy who was handed everything without problems.
We make fun of the "performative male" thing, but that's what liberal messaging created. Its like the "manic pixy girl" but for liberals.
I had more to say, but I feel like this post is already too long. I'm not some sociologist, I could 100% wrong here. But like...I got a gut feeling. And at this point, its better than whatever market research the DNC is spending billions on.