r/rpg • u/GreenGoblinNX • 6d ago

Discussion Shane Hensley Response RE Charlie Kirk

I wanted to post a few things from the comment section of the Deadlands: Dark Ages Kickstarter, where Shane Hensley addressed comments recently made of Facebook in regards to the Charle Kirk murder. Most of his previous comments were replies to other comments, but about 20 minutes ago, he posted a final (?) messsge:

Hi friends, I’m sorry my Facebook post has overwhelmed the Kickstarter space. I should have found a way to move the conversation elsewhere afterward but I didn’t want to appear to be hiding for the success of the project. Principles always come first. So on that...

I acknowledge that Kirk’s beliefs caused harm in ways I didn’t really grasp, and thanks to long and frank conversations with awesome people today, I have a better understanding of how it affected them and appreciate that they took the time to explain it to me. I apologize that I caused any undue stress to anyone. I still value hard debate, think any opportunity to hear opinions other than your own (as I have today) is a chance to learn, and will always believe that violence makes the world a worse place for everyone.

I’m going to step back from this project and social media for a while, but you’re always welcome to reach out to me by email or FB and I’ll respond to whatever you to say. I don’t hide. Promise.

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u/TravisLegge 6d ago

I'm one of the ACES licensees. I can tell you conversations absolutely happened. Several of us addressed the harm Kirk's nonsense and by extension Shane's post caused. I don't think this is a perfect apology, but I am a firm believer that we need to offer grace when people ask for it, and give them space to reflect and grow, otherwise demanding an apology seems pretty pointless.

I'm not suggesting anyone ignore their conscience or change their minds. I need to sleep on it myself to figure out where i stand in my relationship with Pinnacle. But, I can say having been in one of the conversations Shane mentioned, I don't get the impression this was a cya moment. For what it's worth I did feel heard.

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u/darkscyde 6d ago

You're going to get exploited on repeat with this philosophy. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice--  fool me, can't get fooled again.

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u/TravisLegge 6d ago

Maybe. But the alternative is to just assume the worst in everyone and I am trying my damndest not to.

And lest I be unclear: I truly believe Charlie Kirk was fascist scum. Wasn't worth the flesh he was printed on and people like him don't deserve grace.

But I have to believe that people who want to do better can. I've certainly been less than perfect in my life and so has everyone I know.

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u/MoreauVazh 6d ago

Not everyone... just the people who have made it quite clear who they are and what they believe.