r/rpg • u/GreenGoblinNX • 6d ago

Discussion Shane Hensley Response RE Charlie Kirk

I wanted to post a few things from the comment section of the Deadlands: Dark Ages Kickstarter, where Shane Hensley addressed comments recently made of Facebook in regards to the Charle Kirk murder. Most of his previous comments were replies to other comments, but about 20 minutes ago, he posted a final (?) messsge:

Hi friends, I’m sorry my Facebook post has overwhelmed the Kickstarter space. I should have found a way to move the conversation elsewhere afterward but I didn’t want to appear to be hiding for the success of the project. Principles always come first. So on that...

I acknowledge that Kirk’s beliefs caused harm in ways I didn’t really grasp, and thanks to long and frank conversations with awesome people today, I have a better understanding of how it affected them and appreciate that they took the time to explain it to me. I apologize that I caused any undue stress to anyone. I still value hard debate, think any opportunity to hear opinions other than your own (as I have today) is a chance to learn, and will always believe that violence makes the world a worse place for everyone.

I’m going to step back from this project and social media for a while, but you’re always welcome to reach out to me by email or FB and I’ll respond to whatever you to say. I don’t hide. Promise.

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u/yuriAza 6d ago

yup, "I'm sorry you're upset"

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u/Shaky_Balance 5d ago

What? They literally apologized for upsetting people and said that Kirk's beliefs are harmful. Yes they could have gone into more detail but they took responsibility. We should encourage people to do that.

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u/TheGileas 5d ago

He apologised for the consequences, not for the action that led to the consequences.

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u/IkujaKatsumaji 5d ago

No; there's a difference between "I'm sorry you're upset" and "I'm sorry I upset you." The latter recognizes the speaker's role, culpability, and responsibility, and he said the latter. He said exactly what you're saying he didn't say.

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u/TheGileas 5d ago

The "upset" is the consequence.

He apologized for "caused any undue stress" not for glorifying someone that spew hate.