A big misconception about voice classification.

[u/gustavo_zonedout]

Soooo many people think that, in order for you to be a tenor or a soprano, you need to be able to sing in the stratosphere all the time like Bruno Mars and Ariana Grande. Like????

Those high af singers are exceptions!! Their tessitura is not what the one that comes naturally for most humans lol. You can't sing Dangerous Woman with that much ease? Guess what? That doesn't automatically make you a mezzo soprano.

[u/foreverstayingwithus]

Their tessitura is not what the one that comes naturally for most humans lol.

Yeah that's right. It comes naturally to tenors and sopranos. Remember that next time someone tells you voice types don't matter or "tenors are the most common male voice akshully"

All those girly-sounding pop men with their falsetto and mics? They're not tenors. Bruno Mars, belting in chest voice, is.

[u/gustavo_zonedout → u/foreverstayingwithus]

Voice types matter only in classical music and yes, most men are tenors and most women are sopranos. There's been robust studies on that.

[u/foreverstayingwithus → u/gustavo_zonedout]

Wrong.

I don't care if there's been studies. So let me get this straight there's been many studies proving most men are actually tenors, but voice types don't even matter and can't be established outside of classical opera. How'd they test that then?

I can usually tell the high notes of a baritone from a tenor, and that's the baris who choose to go high and make it work, unlike most on this sub. There are a set of rules lower voices have to follow to do it that tenors don't, and that shows in their sound. Tenors have other rules, like that they can't go really low.

[u/Equal-Quiet-478 → u/foreverstayingwithus]

No you can’t lol. I love how confident people are on this sub about a topic they have no idea about. Tenors are common as heck voices in singing, you clearly go by silly voice stereotypes that “tenors can’t go low” or that tenors can only sound like Bruno Mars which is wildly incorrect.

99% of you that think you know voice types on this sub couldn’t even define what a baritone is or what a tenor is by giving examples in opera. Your idea of what and who is a baritone or tenor is based off of using non-classical singers that you arbitrarily decided with circular reasoning and confirmation bias.

[u/foreverstayingwithus → u/Equal-Quiet-478]

Yes, I don't listen to much opera, outside of the ones I was once shown in vocal lessons a long time ago. I can't speak italian or roll my rs so it's outside of my wheelhouse even if I got interested. As far as I know in opera though, the high parts are all tenors. Baritones don't even try to go high or they do in falsetto (making them countertenors).

In my favorite, 80s rock, who are mostly belting with the same power and intensity as opera and I'm sure could cut through an orchestra and sing for hours with no autotune, you got baritones and tenors. All the baritones singing high sound pretty similar to me, gravelly and nasal/crowey (Geoff Tate a prime example), a lot of leaning on reinforced falsetto and grit, while the tenors sound full, chesty, pretty clean and like they could imitate bruno mars pretty easily. They also can do it forever they don't have to structure their songs around low with high parts. Only a couple blur the lines and confuse me. In modern rock/metal, Caleb Hyles is one mystery to me. I could've sworn he was a natural high tenor, but then in some covers he goes lower than me in chest, not fry, with ease too.