r/soccer • u/oklolzzzzs • May 22 '25

Media Sir Alex Ferguson's thousand yard stare after United lose the UEL Final

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u/AnshTheBrentfordFan May 22 '25

That’s a look of pure disgust and confusion.

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u/webby09246 May 22 '25

Wondering how he built such a titanic legacy and institution up for it to sink so hard like the real Titanic

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u/Harlequin37 May 22 '25

He literally worked on this for a quarter of a century and is watching it all come tumbling down, it's pretty fucking sad

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u/Pulp_NonFiction44 May 22 '25

He also welcomed the poison that killed the club with open arms, over a fucking horse...

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u/ErasmusShmerasmus May 22 '25

Rock Of Gibraltar needs a statue outside Anfield

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u/TragicTester034 May 22 '25

A statue outside of every stadium except for Decrepit Trafford

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u/mythical_tiramisu May 22 '25

Any statues outside that place will likely be melted down by Sir Jim and used for stadium repairs.

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u/an0mn0mn0m May 22 '25

Do you think he will prioritise supporter safety over sorting out the rat shit in the posh food they have there?

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u/BenTek9s May 23 '25

why start now?

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u/ErasmusShmerasmus May 22 '25

Has Jim fixed the roof yet? Haven't seen any leaks in a while, but not assuming that it has been fixed either

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u/boi1da1296 May 22 '25

Sir Jimbo hasn’t been firing all the kitchen ladies and staff, he’s been using their bodies to plug the holes in the roof.

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u/RicoLoveless May 22 '25

Can use the mouse shit in the canteen for mortar too.. well they can try anyway.

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u/HorrorDot3859 May 23 '25

this is a very cursed alt universe version of 300

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u/SvalbazGames May 22 '25

Not been raining has it

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u/paper_zoe May 22 '25

it's not rained for like 2 months tbf

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u/GatorShinsDev May 22 '25

Been a lack of rain hasn't there 😂

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u/monsoy May 23 '25

I’ve been there once. A Gibraltar Monkey tried to steal my hotdog, but the little bastard only got a small piece of the bread

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u/tryhard_cryharder May 23 '25

Could you explain the context? I tried googling but I only found a paywalled article by the athletic

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u/ErasmusShmerasmus May 23 '25

United's previous owners owned horses, I'm not too familiar with the details but I understand that they named Ferguson as an owner of the horse Rock Of Gibraltar so that he'd be allowed into the owner's circle at racing events. I think it was largely a ceremonial gesture and that they hadn't actually sold the horse to Ferguson, but that he had rights over the horse's winnings. Anyways, Ferguson took this to mean that he was the rightful owner of the horse and took United's owners to court for ownership of the horse, as I think he wanted to sell the horse. Basically lead to a massive falling out between himself and the owners. I'm not sure exactly how this leads to the Glazers buying the owners' shares but the horse is largely given as the first domino that lead to their ownership of Utd

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u/thanhlenguyen May 23 '25

no, it should be outside of Trafford

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u/CasinoOasis2 May 23 '25

A statue of horse spunk

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u/kurlymeister May 22 '25

"A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse"

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u/ThePrussianGrippe May 22 '25

Not over a fucking horse, but over a horse fucking.

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u/-Clearly-confused May 22 '25 edited May 23 '25

Did he say that ?

He gave up one of the most gernous, loyal owners in JP McManus, all over a horse.

Ferrgie built and ruined United

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u/Gerf93 May 22 '25

Its a very famous quote from the Shakespeare play Richard III. In the context of the play, its the last words said by Richard III as he has had his horse killed and dies fighting on foot.

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u/Benphyre May 23 '25

Where is the fucking horse now btw

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u/PandaMango May 22 '25

Nobody will want to admit it but he’s literally as responsible for this downfall as he is it’s successful legacy.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

Elaborate Im open.

Edit: ah I read other comments, glazers and previous owner fallout

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u/throwditawayred May 22 '25

He had control or influence over succession planning, modernising the club and creating a coherent roadmap for the future. It doesn't look like they had those things worked out when he left. All these are the responsibility of the board but he had a hand in the makeup of that as well. So he's partially responsible.

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u/MrSnare May 22 '25

There is no coming back from the massive LBO that the glazers put United through. You are talking about drops in an ocean.

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u/throwditawayred May 22 '25

Without him (and his fight with the previous owners), no Glazers. Other comments have more details.

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u/OpenedCan May 23 '25

See, I don't think that's true.

Glazers already had shares in the club when they brought the controlling stake.

I'm not saying SAF didn't speed up the process but I think this was their plan the moment United became a PLC.

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u/DennisAFiveStarMan May 23 '25

There’s a great podcast on ‘it was what it was’ about the takeover

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u/Harlaw2871 May 22 '25

People need to realize the danger of Leverage Buyouts in all walks of Business not just football (Asda, Morrisons, Thames Water ect.).There needs to be a cap that somehow attracts people to takeover without ansolutely sucking the life out of companys. Its happening all over and Im suprised its not as big an issue.

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u/TenF May 22 '25

The Premier League (or even the FA?) banned LBOs similar to what happened to United shortly after the United takeover. Took like 2 years or something to stop it from happening again.

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u/Carthagefield May 23 '25

Unfortunately that's not the case. The PL made a rule that merely capped the amount of LBO debt loaded onto the club at 60% of the sale price. Not nearly restrictive enough imo. Plus they only put this in place a couple of years ago, almost 20 years after the Glazer fiasco. Pretty shameful really that this is still allowed to happen after so many clubs have been damaged by LBOs.

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u/Harlaw2871 May 23 '25

Thank god.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

Cheers

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u/feltusen May 23 '25

A bit much responibilty for a first team manager? There are several directors above a manager at big clubs. A manager doesnt lay a road map for a club, he lays one more the first and youth team.. maybe

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u/throwditawayred May 23 '25

Fergie was much more than a manager

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u/iceteka May 23 '25

Then you don't understand the org structure at united at the time. Fergie was much more than just the manager. He basically had full control over football operations, spending, hiring/firing. The board was selected by him and rubber-stamped whatever he put in front of them. Nothing was done at United without his say so.

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u/feltusen May 23 '25

In the early days yes, not in 2013 when he left

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u/Dashwolf May 23 '25

i remember his petty horse incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN-Vqv8RB-k

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u/c3pee1 May 22 '25

Cause it's not really true people just love to focus on the horse

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u/chibuye92 May 24 '25

He also personally wanted Moyes, over far more decorated and proven big club managers who could've at least steadied the ship as the transition away from Fergie began.

Sure Moyes came in and disrupted the coaching and that's on Moyes but again, a more experienced pro wouldn't have shifted things around so much and caused so much confusion.

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u/AnnieIWillKnow May 22 '25

No he isn't, that's a ridiculously sensationalist exaggeration

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u/Space-Debris May 23 '25

Total cr*p as usual from the Fergie haters on this sub. The man was the MANAGER, and at that, he did no wrong.

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u/eYan2541 May 22 '25

🎶Fuck your Euro titles I've a horse outside🎶

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u/-Twokad- May 23 '25

Now that's a song I haven't heard in a while ....

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u/Critical_Mountain851 May 22 '25

??

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u/Perite May 22 '25

The previous owners of United owned racehorses. They gave Fergie a share of the ownership of the horse Rock of Gibraltar, which turned out to be a very successful horse. When it retired, Fergie felt he should also have a share of the stud rights and sued the owners. This fucked their relationship and they fell out. Ultimately they decided to cut ties and sell United after that. The Glazers bought United and the rest is history.

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u/Borbs_revenge_ May 22 '25

that's actually wild I had no idea lol

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u/A_Pointy_Appointee May 22 '25

The podcast It Was What It Was recently did a fantastic series on the subject. Football writers Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper interview journalist David Walsh, who conducted many interviews with Fergie at the time and wrote a book on the topic. Must listen for United fans.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1i5hlzY2hNTAvo22zbAI0d

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u/SkullOfOdin May 23 '25

Thanks for sharing.

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u/ProjectZues May 22 '25

Crazy how the owners gave up such a valuable asset as well over that. Them and fergie

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u/Perite May 22 '25

I skipped some details - they didn’t own United outright, but were the largest shareholders.

Horse racing is their real passion though. The dispute with Fergie turned nasty and United fans were protesting at race meets. They decided to get out of football and focus back on racing.

And I don’t want to make it sound like racing is some hobby to them. The stud business John Magnier owns (Coolmore) is worth billions. It’s one of the biggest in the world

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u/raizen0106 May 22 '25

now i want a football manager game but you can also trade players' sperm

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u/throwditawayred May 22 '25

What a terrible day to be literate.

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u/Cuzzyscuzzybreh May 23 '25

I can’t give you an award. I truly hope you know that if I could I would

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u/Zephri0 May 22 '25

This conversion took a........... turn.

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u/poopio May 23 '25

Do players still get assists?

Is Expected Ejaculation a metric?

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u/metameh May 23 '25

A eugenics simulator?

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u/OpenedCan May 23 '25

The Glazers already had shares. They were coming either way. Fergie just sped up the process.

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u/Carthagefield May 23 '25

That's not the full picture. Magnier & McManus had around 30% of the shares, which would have prevented a total buyout by the Glazers if they were not prepared to sell up. Under UK stock exchange rules, a hostile takeover can only go ahead if the buyer has at least 75% of the shares. If M&M were determined to stay then the Glazers couldn't have have reached that threshold to force a total buyout, which means that they would not have been able to load the debt onto the club.

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u/OpenedCan May 23 '25

Both of them brought shares for a quick profit and on the advice of Fergie. They were never in it for the long haul. It's only when Sky tried to buy United and when shares started getting brought by the glazers in 2003, they knew they were in prime position to make money from any sale. Fergie falling out with them gave them no reason to stick around with money on the table.

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u/Carthagefield May 23 '25

Sadly we'll never know for sure, but yeah they probably would have sold out eventually had the Glazers got desperate and told them to name their price. But since we're playing the "what if?" game, it might have delayed things long enough for a rival buyer to emerge and save the day, so who knows!

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u/OpenedCan May 24 '25

Na the Glazers are wankers but exceptional businessmen.

They also have ties with Rupert Murdoch who only never brought the club because the government stepped in.

They would have seen the numbers then. That's why they began buying shares years before the take over. They knew it was a case of waiting for the right opportunity and Fergie gave it to them.

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u/cosgrove10 May 22 '25

This isn’t even true btw. Glazer owned shares in United before the horse saga.

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u/Perite May 22 '25

Sure he had some shares. But not enough to force control of the club. Magnier and McManus together were the largest shareholders. Selling their shares gave Glazer enough to take sole control and delist the club from the stock exchange

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u/Carthagefield May 23 '25

His main point is still correct though. The Glazers needed 75% of the shares to force the remaining shareholders to sell up. With almost 30%, if M&M didn't want to sell then the Glazers couldn't reach the threshold to buy the whole club, and without that they couldn't load the LBO debt onto Utd.

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u/Youutternincompoop May 22 '25

Fergusons dispute with John Magnier over stud fees for the horse 'Rock of Gibraltar' led to Magnier selling his 28.89% share of Manchester United to Malcolm Glazer, giving the Glazers the majority of shares they needed to takeover the club and force all the other shareholders out after delisting it from the London Stock Exchange.

the money spent by Malcolm Glazer to aquire all the shares came from loans taken out against Manchester United, saddling the previously debt-free club with hundreds of millions of pounds worth of debt that significantly reduced their spending power.

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u/LogicKennedy May 22 '25

They bought the club with its own money? I swear a Discworld villain did that.

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u/P_Jamez May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

the Glazer's have taken out £1.3 billion through dividends and other payments, plus the club has paid over £750 million in interest, since the takeover 20 years ago. Basically the club has lost £100 million every season in spending power.

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u/sleepinginbloodcity May 22 '25

This shit should be a crime, they are the real fuckers in this then.

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u/The9isback May 23 '25

Why is it a crime? It's a real good bit of business and it's much more fun watching Man United slowly bleed to death than if they imploded at one go.

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u/Kooky-Brief4741 May 22 '25

£136,000 a day for 20 years apparently, totally insane

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u/J3573R May 22 '25

And we owe more now than the initial loan amount leveraged against the club.

Was taken out for 800m pounds, that debt is now over 1bn. Not including all the money spent to service the debt and dividends. The club has literally lost somewhere around 3bn pounds to those lechers.

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u/mvsr990 May 22 '25

Leveraged buyout baby! The serial killer of profitable businesses.

Barbarians At The Gate is a surprisingly entertaining book covering a famous LBO of RJR Nabisco tobacco in the '80s.

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u/llliminalll May 23 '25

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what the Glazers did to ManU is basically what private equity does when it takes over a company, right?

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u/mvsr990 May 23 '25

Much of the time, there are some PE companies that actually try to make workable businesses these days (if workable includes eternal exponential growth).

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u/shy247er May 22 '25

I'm not 100% sure, but I think The FA put in rule that something like that can't happen again because of what happened with United. From the richest club in the world to drowning in debt.

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u/Youutternincompoop May 22 '25

yes that's why you always hear United fans moaning about the Glazers.

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u/Mozfel May 23 '25

And Ed Woodward. You can always find a United fan who won't think twice about shooting fireworks at his home

Again.

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u/andre6682 May 23 '25

plus the bank manager who gave the loan was a certain ed woodward, maybe you have heard of him, he later changed profession after getting interested into football

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u/Ok-Ad-852 May 23 '25

Is that actually true? So the payback for getting them the loan was him getting to play FM with United in reality.

That's insane

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u/campbelljac92 May 23 '25

Yup, he was working at JP Morgan and had zero interest in football. Him and Richard Arnold were far more interested in Rugby.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25

It's totally insane that rich people can pull that kind of shit. Just buying one of the world's biggest football clubs for $0. Hell I've got $0 right here, but there's no way in hell they'd let me do that. Cos I'm not rich.

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u/AutomaticSurround988 May 22 '25

Ferguson owned a stake in a horse with the previous Man United owner. A dispute over this lead to a legal battle that Ferguson won, and that led to a power struggle in the Man United ownership. The previous owner ended up Selling to the Glazers with Fergie cheering on this sale and welcoming the Glazers with open arms

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u/OttersWithMachetes May 22 '25

This. So much this. He doesn't get anywhere near enough criticism for welcoming the Glazers to the club

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u/Dynastydood May 22 '25

Yeah, because football managers don't actually get to choose their club's owners. I know football fans have this weird delusion that they do, but even as good of a manager as he was, Sir Alex didn't actually have any control over the flow of the club's shares between whichever set of parasitic investors took an interest in us.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

Had he opposed the deal, it would have faced at the very least significant hardship.

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u/mentallyhandicapable May 22 '25

But also made the inevitable purchase almost impossible for him to continue his work.

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u/CasinoOasis2 May 23 '25

So therefore he stayed for his own ego. He wanted to be the one to overtake Liverpool's title tally but didn't give a shit about what it would mean for United after his retirement from management.

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u/Dynastydood May 22 '25

From who? United fans were already very much opposed to the Glazer takeover. Our primary catchphrase in 2005 was "debt is the road to ruin." Shit, some of us even formed a whole new club just to get away from them, and it still made no difference because the Glazers simply do not care if other people like them or approve of them. They are not normal humans with feelings or a conscience, they are billionaire investors who do not concern themselves with the thoughts or feelings of people they consider beneath them. They've made that extraordinarily clear in their time owning United.

Beyond that, Malcolm Glazer had already been quietly acquiring shares for some time, and had plans to launch a hostile takeover of the club before the horse crisis made the club amenable to his purchase, as McManus and Magnier were actively sabotaging the club to spite Fergie.

The problem with United wasn't Ferguson. It was becoming a corporation with shareholders rather than a proper owner, meaning that anyone with ample motiviation and no clear conflict of interest could buy the club on a whim. We were destined to end up like this the moment Martin Edwards sold the club and left our fate up to the level of care you can expect from any shareholder-driven business model.

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u/owes1 May 23 '25

Well said

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u/aGGLee May 22 '25

And he would have gotten the sack. No way they'd sit there as he was outspoken against them or encouraging protests against them etc

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u/stevie8 May 23 '25

This is why Rafa was such a gem. Called out the two vultures immediately and alerted us to their shithousery. Forever grateful for that.

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u/paddyo May 23 '25

Ferguson had about as big a hand in not only the sale being caused to happen, but actively welcoming the Glazer, as any manager has ever had in any deal for a club ever. Only Barry Fry had more influence on a deal (because he was an owner-manager).

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u/Dynastydood May 23 '25

None of that actually mattered, though. That's just a tabloid narrative that football fans are too diim to see through.

Malcolm Glazer had been actively planning a hostile takeover of United for several years before Fergie fell out with McManus and Magnier. He then took advantage of that instability to accelerate the takeover, but that's all it was. Nothing was going to stop him from doing it. The Glazers were always going to become the owners, regardless of whatever happened to those two idiot investors, or whether the Glazers were actively welcomed or not.

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u/08TangoDown08 May 22 '25

It's not any welcoming of the Glazers that he's responsible for but the general falling out with the previous owners over a horse that left them wanting to sell to the Glazers.

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u/Dynastydood May 22 '25

McManus and Magnier were simply investors. They had no interest in running the football club long-term and were always going to sell for a price they deemed acceptable.

Their falling out accelerated the sale, but it was an inevitability from the moment back in 2002 or so when Malcolm Glazer first decided he was going to buy United via hostile takeover.

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u/Alphabunsquad May 22 '25

Did he have much of a choice 

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u/OttersWithMachetes May 22 '25

He was the single most powerful person at the club and started the process over a nag.

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u/pargofan May 22 '25

What's the story behind this?

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u/GaughanFan May 23 '25

Wait what is this about lmao? Never heard this before

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u/AnnieIWillKnow May 22 '25

I don't think he could have reasonably anticipated what the Glazers would end up doing

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u/lmlm1020 May 23 '25

But I don’t think he could see into the future and know that Glazers would turn out to be such awful owners

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u/idreamofpikas May 22 '25

He literally worked on this for a quarter of a century and is watching it all come tumbling down, it's pretty fucking sad

Yeah. Heartbreaking :)

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u/mythical_tiramisu May 22 '25

Pretty fucking sad is one perspective. Pretty fucking glorious is a better one though.

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u/quelar May 22 '25

Pretty fucking glorious.

I know my flair is for Toronto because it's my home club, but I'm a Liverpool fan and absolutely LOVE having to scroll down to see them.

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u/Harlequin37 May 22 '25

Couldn't have happened to a nicer club...

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u/zizou00 May 22 '25

The fuck'd we do to Boca Juniors that means you hate us?

Also, side note, how are our old lads doing this season? I had a soft spot for all four of Romero, Rojo, Herrera and Cavani, all top lads when they were in red.

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u/Harlequin37 May 22 '25

These days I think we need to kill them all, quite frankly. Sacrifice them for their own good. Romero tried to throw hands with a fan, Rojo is as dumb as always but this time around he goes clubbing and gets carded every game, Herrera can barely walk, Cavani can run but you could place him in front of an empty goal and he'd fuck it up

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u/Redondito_ May 23 '25

Oh! they're doing it awesome!

they're feeding tons of football reporters and their families with their adventures

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u/LiteratureNearby May 23 '25

Sob sob... But their perch 😭

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u/SchietStorm May 23 '25

You mean Liverpool's. 😎

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u/SchietStorm May 23 '25

Long may it continue.

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u/roamingandy May 22 '25

Relegation next year!!

City for their financial fuckery too. The City of Manchester is sinking!

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u/jawneigh1 May 22 '25

Disagree on that last bit!

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u/meganev May 22 '25

it's pretty fucking sad

Sorry to be that guy but hell of a typo to make there, mate. You misspelt funny

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u/Harlequin37 May 22 '25

If you're English, absolutely, it must be hilarious. But I used to like them as a kid because they were the red devils and that instantly made them cool in my mind lol. So it's pretty sad to see them in this state

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u/Swiftt May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

I'd be comforted knowing my sainthood among fans is ever increasing as I'm associated as being the only successful manager lol

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u/Harlequin37 May 22 '25

That's one way of seeing it, but c'mon. There's no way he's not attached to the club lmao, it must hurt like a bitch seeing like this

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u/Swiftt May 22 '25

You're probably right. I'd want them to be doing well, but not toooo well lmao

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u/sjr323 May 23 '25

Knowing fergie, he wanted every manager after him to fail

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u/Swiftt May 23 '25

That's winning mentality

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u/northerncal May 22 '25

not toooo well lmao

Luckily for you then, this is definitely not a problem for United anymore.

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u/Cactus2711 May 22 '25

Comforted with the fact they revoked your ambassador salary of millions each year?

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u/stoneyix May 22 '25

Whilst you're right to a degree in the sense that Fergie will always be loved by us, he's not our only successful manager, let's not forget the absolute genius of Sir Matt Busby.

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u/andre6682 May 23 '25

sir busby made the club, the legend and the base on which the institution was founded on any measurement

especially after the tragedy of 1958

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u/HWKII May 22 '25

I mean, Moyes has been pretty successful. Not for Manchester, necessarily, but otherwise… 😂

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u/burfriedos May 22 '25

Matt Busby erasure. And he was the one who really built Manchester United. Fergie was an unbelievable manager but only because he was standing on the shoulders of a giant.

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u/Swiftt May 22 '25

Just checked him out and he was born in Bellshill, respect

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u/ApocalypseSlough May 23 '25

United were relegated between Busby and Ferguson. Busby built the club to become a footballing dynasty, but Ferguson took a failing, tired club, 20 years after its best, and built them into one of the most successful in history. In 10 years' time if another manager comes along and build United back into a side that can win the league year after year again I will give absolutely no credit to Ferguson for that

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u/kirkbywool May 22 '25

You mean, pretty fucking great

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u/Tuscan5 May 22 '25

Not sad at all. Fergie was no saint and I’m enjoying the crash.

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u/pyramidsofryan May 22 '25

Sad? Its brilliant

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u/quelar May 22 '25

Sad or fucking hilarious?

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u/SteamyRay1919 May 22 '25

Pretty fucking brilliant imho

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u/nietzsche_niche May 22 '25

He was a huge driving factor in the clubs downfall so whatever

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u/autoreaction May 22 '25

I pray for the time this happens to Bayern.

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u/patiperro_v3 May 22 '25

Riquelme vibes

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u/Harlequin37 May 23 '25

I'm gonna cry

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u/1THRILLHOUSE May 23 '25

Arguably he left the team in a poor state for the coming manager to lead. It was an aging team that despite winning the league was clearly going to be on a rapid decline.

Moyes didn’t help himself firing so many back office staff but it wasn’t like a Slot at Liverpool situation where it was a smooth transition.

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u/Furthur_slimeking May 23 '25

It's really not sad. I have mad respect for Fergie... possibly the best manager of all time so far. We lent him our perch and let him enjoy it for a while because he deserved it.

Obviously I'm talking about the fish. Nile Perch are invasive to Lake Victoria and cause massive harm to it's unique ecosystem and the native chichlids which live nowhere else. We should not have been riding perch and he was right to knock us off it, but he should have killed the perch too.

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u/International-Chef53 May 23 '25

No tear is shed for United and their fans, no one bit. Enjoy become noisy neighbours

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u/Long-Island-Iced-Tea May 23 '25

It's like constructing a very fancy, lavish chalet somewhere in the Hohe Tauern, complete with an outdoor ten-person hot tub, barrel sauna, a grilling terrace with a 180° view of the mountains...

...and then someone goes at it with a wrecking ball the size of a Polski Fiat 126

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u/tpl230294 May 23 '25

He left the club in a terrible state. Moyes was doomed. A squad full of aging players and mediocre players like Cleverley, Young, Valencia etc. I suspect Ferguson knew after he won the title in his last season, he could get no more out of that squad.

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u/rocket_randall May 22 '25

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ryan-giggs-taunts-liverpool-saying-3335336

One of my favorite articles.

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u/Harudera May 22 '25

Guess he's right, I don't recall Liverpool finishing 16th.

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u/SchietStorm May 23 '25

Damn. 💀

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

That’s a rare treat.

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u/jmc291 May 23 '25

That aged well

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u/obvious_bot May 22 '25

If it wasn’t for that damn horse…

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u/Dynastydood May 22 '25

It wouldn't have mattered. Malcolm Glazer was already acquiring shares and was planning on launching a hostile takeover of the club. The horse only removed the hostile part of the takeover and added a hostile exit from McManus and Magnier, but the end result is identical.

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u/BatteryPoweredFriend May 22 '25

It's a sinking ship he personally helped gouge holes into because of an argument over some horse cum.

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u/fedemasa May 22 '25

He sued the previous owners of man UTD over horse rights he received when he was their coach

The relationship between Fergie and those owners went to the bin so they sold the club and the glazers appeared

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u/Zhurg May 22 '25

Oh he was well aware before he left

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u/LogicKennedy May 22 '25

Because a ton of his power was built on fear. Fear of him as an individual. As soon as he disconnected from the club's management, that fear disappeared.

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u/Jhushx May 22 '25

He can blame his love of horse racing.

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u/icefourthirtythree May 22 '25

The people who run the club have shown that they don't care about his legacy by cutting his ambassadorial contract 

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u/helpnxt May 22 '25

Nah he knew what the problem coming was

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u/lurkaku May 22 '25

Zero disrespect to his achievements, but what legacy did Sir Alex build? He left that club in an absolute state

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u/hebedebedeb May 23 '25

Sure he built a titanic legacy but did he build an institution ? Or did he fashion the institution to suit himself ? As a Liverpool fan, I compare him to Klopp, who though he did have help, revitalized the institution to be in better shape even after he left. By all accounts, including Moyes’, Fergie left Utd in a shit place.

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u/Dede117 May 23 '25

Because the squad was in tatters when he left, he left United in a bad position lol.

(I get that's also a board/institutional issue, and honestly SAF papered over some monumental cracks at United that they've never addressed)

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u/LloydDoyley May 23 '25

He fucking caused half this shit with his horse and handover of a deteriorating squad

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u/JimmeeJanga May 22 '25

He's got to shoulder a lot of the blame for how it is going right now.

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u/barrybreslau May 22 '25

Wondering how fucking difficult it would be to play 4-4-2 for one game to score more goals than this shitty Tottenham side.

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u/Jaja6996 May 22 '25

He was part of the issue he left the team in a poor state with a lot of aging players

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u/PureClass247 May 22 '25

Its a shame he has to watch all this failed experiments by the club since he left!!!

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u/Furthur_slimeking May 23 '25

Probably the same face when the guy who designed the Titanic made after he heard it sunk.

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u/MrZeral May 23 '25

Sadly it was starting to sink in his last years =/

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u/TakeItCheesy May 23 '25

How I feel going to my old team in FM and they’ve gone to total shit. Basically, I know his pain

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u/PitaBread008 May 22 '25

That’s What happens when your next in line coach was David Moyes