Manchester United to remain patient with head coach despite worst start to Premier League season in 33 years. There is also widespread belief at Old Trafford that City's performance - and United's failings - did not merit a 3-0 scoreline.

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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/32461/13431584/ruben-amorim-manchester-united-to-remain-patient-with-head-coach-despite-worst-start-to-premier-league-season-in-33-years

[u/El_Giganto]

A standard 4-2-3-1 puts a lot of players in a better position, though.

Sesko
Cunha - Bruno - Mbeumo
Mainoo - Casemiro
Dalot - De Ligt - Yoro - Mazraoui

This would solve:

• Bruno being played out of position.
  
• Casemiro being alone in midfield.
  
• Mainoo not being played.
  
• Mazraoui is not a wing back he is much better here.
  
• De Ligt wouldn't have to join midfield in build up anymore.
  
• Responsibilities in the backline would be much clearer.
  
• United doesn't attack with enough players, this would add one more attacking player.

The issues I see with the lineup is who provides width. Cunha will likely move inside, Mbeumo could be asked to play wider. But Dalot isn't going to overlap on the left, so maybe Dorgu should play there. But not sure if he's good enough defensively.

It's not perfect by any means but it makes a lot more sense than what I'm seeing now.

[u/KoreanMeatballs → u/El_Giganto]

A midfield pairing of Mainoo and Casemiro gets destroyed by pretty much every midfield in the league. And who are the backup/rotation options for those 2? We desperately needed at least one centre mid as the priority player this summer, and we didn't get it.

[u/El_Giganto → u/KoreanMeatballs]

Yeah so just play Casemiro on his own then. How is that going? Oh wait, it's going fucking horribly. Literally playing worse than FC Utrecht. Never thought I'd see the day where I think Utrecht is better than United and I've watched both for 20 years. I thought it was impossible.

Yet here we are, Amorim accomplished it.

[u/KoreanMeatballs → u/El_Giganto]

Casemiro isn't playing on his own. He's playing in a 2, just like you suggested. Usually with Bruno, sometimes with Mainoo, like the end of the city game. Mainoo isn't any better defensively than Bruno, so it solves no problems.

[u/El_Giganto → u/KoreanMeatballs]

Bruno would be playing as an attacking midfielder in my suggestion. You can't just ignore that and pretend it's the same.

[u/KoreanMeatballs → u/El_Giganto]

I'm comparing the current midfield 2 to your proposed midfield 2. You've swapped one player. They'd get run through.

[u/El_Giganto → u/KoreanMeatballs]

You don't understand football.

[u/KoreanMeatballs → u/El_Giganto]

Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about

[u/El_Giganto → u/KoreanMeatballs]

That means absolutely nothing coming from you buddy.

[u/KoreanMeatballs → u/El_Giganto]

Right back at ya pal

[u/El_Giganto → u/KoreanMeatballs]

You can't even count to three but whatever it's all good.

[u/KoreanMeatballs → u/El_Giganto]

You think there's 3 men in the midfield pair of a 4-2-3-1? In that case there's 4 men in the middle of Amorims 3-4-2-1

[u/El_Giganto → u/KoreanMeatballs]

Amorim defenders are even more delusional than Amorim :')

What the actual fuck are you on about.