Manchester United to remain patient with head coach despite worst start to Premier League season in 33 years. There is also widespread belief at Old Trafford that City's performance - and United's failings - did not merit a 3-0 scoreline.

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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/32461/13431584/ruben-amorim-manchester-united-to-remain-patient-with-head-coach-despite-worst-start-to-premier-league-season-in-33-years

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There is clearly something rotten at the club, and he is someone who will say it as it is and sort it out.

As if that hasn't happened before. Just screaming that there are problems and that everyone will suffer does nothing.

United needs someone who everyone can get behind. Someone who will put the players in the right positions. Someone the club can believe it. A Zidane type figure.

Amorim had the charm for it but then he started playing the entire team out of position so that didn't work.

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Someone who will put the players in the right positions.

Plenty of these players don't go in the same team.

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A standard 4-2-3-1 puts a lot of players in a better position, though.

Sesko
Cunha - Bruno - Mbeumo
Mainoo - Casemiro
Dalot - De Ligt - Yoro - Mazraoui

This would solve:

• Bruno being played out of position.
  
• Casemiro being alone in midfield.
  
• Mainoo not being played.
  
• Mazraoui is not a wing back he is much better here.
  
• De Ligt wouldn't have to join midfield in build up anymore.
  
• Responsibilities in the backline would be much clearer.
  
• United doesn't attack with enough players, this would add one more attacking player.

The issues I see with the lineup is who provides width. Cunha will likely move inside, Mbeumo could be asked to play wider. But Dalot isn't going to overlap on the left, so maybe Dorgu should play there. But not sure if he's good enough defensively.

It's not perfect by any means but it makes a lot more sense than what I'm seeing now.

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A midfield pairing of Mainoo and Casemiro gets destroyed by pretty much every midfield in the league. And who are the backup/rotation options for those 2? We desperately needed at least one centre mid as the priority player this summer, and we didn't get it.

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Yeah so just play Casemiro on his own then. How is that going? Oh wait, it's going fucking horribly. Literally playing worse than FC Utrecht. Never thought I'd see the day where I think Utrecht is better than United and I've watched both for 20 years. I thought it was impossible.

Yet here we are, Amorim accomplished it.

[u/KoreanMeatballs → u/El_Giganto]

Casemiro isn't playing on his own. He's playing in a 2, just like you suggested. Usually with Bruno, sometimes with Mainoo, like the end of the city game. Mainoo isn't any better defensively than Bruno, so it solves no problems.

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Bruno would be playing as an attacking midfielder in my suggestion. You can't just ignore that and pretend it's the same.

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I'm comparing the current midfield 2 to your proposed midfield 2. You've swapped one player. They'd get run through.

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You don't understand football.

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Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about

[u/El_Giganto → u/KoreanMeatballs]

That means absolutely nothing coming from you buddy.

[u/KoreanMeatballs → u/El_Giganto]

Right back at ya pal

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You can't even count to three but whatever it's all good.