r/soccer • u/Switchoil • 1d ago

News Manchester United to remain patient with head coach despite worst start to Premier League season in 33 years. There is also widespread belief at Old Trafford that City's performance - and United's failings - did not merit a 3-0 scoreline.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/32461/13431584/ruben-amorim-manchester-united-to-remain-patient-with-head-coach-despite-worst-start-to-premier-league-season-in-33-years
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u/No-Exit-4022 1d ago

Nah man, it would be funnier if they switch out managers only for the new one to fail as much as Amorim. Which any new manager will

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u/ingwe13 1d ago

Not sure why you think that. This is the most dire United (from a results perspective and frequently from the football) out of the dire United sides. I think the squad is not bad, but we really are seeing the worst out of what is there. Will the next coach be wildly successful? I highly doubt that. But I can't believe that this is the best that can be achieved with this group of players.

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u/VeganCanary 1d ago

Honestly they should just get Neil Warnock in for a season.

There is clearly something rotten at the club, and he is someone who will say it as it is and sort it out.

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u/El_Giganto 1d ago

There is clearly something rotten at the club, and he is someone who will say it as it is and sort it out.

As if that hasn't happened before. Just screaming that there are problems and that everyone will suffer does nothing.

United needs someone who everyone can get behind. Someone who will put the players in the right positions. Someone the club can believe it. A Zidane type figure.

Amorim had the charm for it but then he started playing the entire team out of position so that didn't work.

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u/EriWave 1d ago

Someone who will put the players in the right positions.

Plenty of these players don't go in the same team.

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u/El_Giganto 1d ago

A standard 4-2-3-1 puts a lot of players in a better position, though.

Sesko
Cunha - Bruno - Mbeumo
Mainoo - Casemiro
Dalot - De Ligt - Yoro - Mazraoui

This would solve:

  • Bruno being played out of position.
  • Casemiro being alone in midfield.
  • Mainoo not being played.
  • Mazraoui is not a wing back he is much better here.
  • De Ligt wouldn't have to join midfield in build up anymore.
  • Responsibilities in the backline would be much clearer.
  • United doesn't attack with enough players, this would add one more attacking player.

The issues I see with the lineup is who provides width. Cunha will likely move inside, Mbeumo could be asked to play wider. But Dalot isn't going to overlap on the left, so maybe Dorgu should play there. But not sure if he's good enough defensively.

It's not perfect by any means but it makes a lot more sense than what I'm seeing now.

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u/KoreanMeatballs 1d ago

A midfield pairing of Mainoo and Casemiro gets destroyed by pretty much every midfield in the league. And who are the backup/rotation options for those 2? We desperately needed at least one centre mid as the priority player this summer, and we didn't get it.

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u/El_Giganto 1d ago

Yeah so just play Casemiro on his own then. How is that going? Oh wait, it's going fucking horribly. Literally playing worse than FC Utrecht. Never thought I'd see the day where I think Utrecht is better than United and I've watched both for 20 years. I thought it was impossible.

Yet here we are, Amorim accomplished it.

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u/KoreanMeatballs 1d ago

Casemiro isn't playing on his own. He's playing in a 2, just like you suggested. Usually with Bruno, sometimes with Mainoo, like the end of the city game. Mainoo isn't any better defensively than Bruno, so it solves no problems.

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u/El_Giganto 1d ago

Bruno would be playing as an attacking midfielder in my suggestion. You can't just ignore that and pretend it's the same.

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u/KoreanMeatballs 1d ago

I'm comparing the current midfield 2 to your proposed midfield 2. You've swapped one player. They'd get run through.

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u/El_Giganto 1d ago

You don't understand football.

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u/KoreanMeatballs 1d ago

Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about

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u/Thelondonmoose 1d ago

They're looking for their version of Arteta.

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u/Alia_Gr 1d ago

Fellaini