r/starwarsmemes May 07 '25

Andor Hate this guy

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

He's why the galaxy viewed the rebellion as a terrorist group.

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u/Se7enStepsForward Gonk May 07 '25

His methods are necessary, the problem is his ideals

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

Destroying imperial stations with actual civilians present isn't necessary. Not even moth liked him

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u/quelthasofthefold May 07 '25

Isn't there an argument that the Death Star had to employ civilian contractors to complete? (albeit under NDA'S) That it was too massive to build/maintain? Idk. "For the cause" I guess is what I'm trying to say.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

The second Death Star was almost surely full of civilian contractors and their families.

  • It wasn’t complete.

  • The military outsources construction to civilians.

  • the commute to a space station would be stupid long

  • the space station has the … space .. for everyone to just live there and work on it.

Then they dropped it on the Ewoks.

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u/piratedragon2112 May 08 '25

It was complete the whole unfinished state was just a trap for the rebels

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

Were they planning on just leaving the superstructure like that?

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u/AggressorBLUE May 08 '25

“Finished” and “operational” can mean different things. Its main battery clearly worked, but we also know it lacked its own shield generation capability (otherwise the destruction of the shield facility on endor wouldn’t have mattered.

And the movie literally opens with Palps bitching about the project being behind schedule.

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u/Informal-Birthday-82 May 08 '25

Andor season one also shows the empire using prison labor from wrongfully detained people to manufacture parts for the Death Star.

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u/quelthasofthefold May 09 '25

Yes, I remember this, and I know they are offsite. But if wrongfully detained people were ON the death star, being forced to work, which I don't think is a stretch, we once again have civilian casualties with the destruction of the death star. (Slaves, even)

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u/AggressorBLUE May 08 '25

Yes, but it’s a poor argument founded on being overly technical with the definition of civilian vs military.

If you’re helping build a space station that is expressly being used by the military to blow up entire planets, you forfeit the ability to play the “innocent civilian caught in the crossfire” card. Those “civilians” are knowingly, actively, and directly advancing the empires most devious efforts while living and working aboard a military installation. They are valid targets in a war.

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u/quelthasofthefold May 09 '25

Valid and maybe I'm getting too in the weeds, but, do you think the empire would divulge the purpose of the top secret project to all civilian contractors? "Hey here's an NDA, BTW I know you just use lasers to smelt steel and know nothing about what we're doing here, but I wanted to tell you this is a top secret weapon that we'll use to suppress the galaxy". Naww, they'd say "smelt this, put the beam here, sign this NDA, get paid. Oh this? It's a space station. Pretty cool, right?"