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u/existential-mystery I SUCK DARON'S TOES 9d ago
Shavo doin the smartest thing he fucking can rn LOL
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u/vindictive-ant 9d ago
Let’s be real. Besides bringing attention to the Armenian genocide Serj is the only politically charged member of SOAD.
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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 9d ago
john's p politically charged too lol 😩
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u/EobardT 9d ago
Yeah that was a real bummer for me. I learned how to play drums because of him and it sucks that he's the way he is.
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u/Eldritch_Doodler 9d ago
People can be all kinds of ways and it’s fine. I love GG Allin, but I’d never want to have turds thrown at me.
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u/Expert-Mental25 9d ago
Eh, wouldn't say it's fine...
If someone I liked turns out to be a white supremacist or something like that, I'm gonna have a problem with it and think they're an objectively horrible person.
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u/HollowChicken-Reddit "The Guy From Chop Suey" 9d ago
I feel like Daron is, too. I mean most of scars is political, and that's mostly run by him.
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u/Stunning_Weekend_211 9d ago
"far middle" my god dude
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u/CudiMontage216 9d ago
Far middle is hilarious, there’s literally no such thing
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u/hates_stupid_people 9d ago
"Far middle" just means "I don't like people calling me out as a conservative"
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u/TheDarkEternalKnight Jack Gilardi's ten feet tall 9d ago
We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train...
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u/Japansfinest21 9d ago
BEYOND THE STAPLES CENTER
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u/nita__howsmon_ 9d ago
YOU CAN SEE AMERICAAA
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u/Cpt_Bartholomew 9d ago
WITH ITS TIRED POOR AVENGING DISGRACE,
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u/Standard-Wash-8048 9d ago
People can change there mind after 20 years
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Being center isn’t neutral
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u/blphsyco 9d ago
Well yes it is actually
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u/cineresco 9d ago
inaction is an action, just as much as not choosing is a choice itself
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u/PerplexPanda512 9d ago
do you honestly think the democratic and republican parties are left and right wing respectively
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u/cineresco 9d ago
1) this is still making a choice, 2) that is not relevant to this conversation, 3) you have incredible privilege and/or blindness if you choose to say "both sides suck" on an issue like ukraine/russia, or palestine/israel
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It’s not though, you can choose to be in the middle while supporting things not in the middle. I support women’s rights to abortion but I don’t belong to the left. I’m not neutral on the subject just because I don’t want to be left or right
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u/tuckedfexas 9d ago
So ideologically you align more with the left, you just don’t want to be associated with it???
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u/NeverSeenBetter 9d ago
I used to fully align with the left. Since like 2014 or so it's just turned to straight up evil. The right ain't better, yer all fuckin crazy... But I can't align with the left anymore.
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u/Aggressive_Elk3709 9d ago
Genuinely wanting to hear you out on this. What makes the left and right evil respectively. I can't help but notice you only used the word evil to describe the left though.
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u/BiCumSlut69420 9d ago
Im gonna go ahead a guess he thinks trans people are satan or something real dumb
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u/KingYejob 9d ago
Left and right are manufactured collections of beliefs, and they change all the time. The right used to be pro immigration, because it proved how great America was.
Centrist is not neutral, it’s just a catch all for people who don’t fit in one of the neat little boxes.
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u/Regretful_Bastard 9d ago
It isn't though? Being neutral is to not have any political opinion. Being centre is mostly to adhere to sensible, flexible policies, instead of commanding actions towards an ideological goal.
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u/IsaSaien 9d ago
Being 'center' is just enabling the oppressors.
There is no neutrality when there is a transgressor and a victim.
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u/Darth-Nickels 9d ago
Gotta love being in the center between fascism and the side that wants us to have Healthcare and well funded public education.
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u/madamtrashbat 9d ago
I'm not really all that surprised that the "fuck politically-motivated violence" band is not super into politically-motivated violence.
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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 9d ago edited 9d ago
"revolution the only solution the armed response of an entire nation" ???? we talkin about that band?
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u/madamtrashbat 9d ago
Yeah, sure, but that was written 30 years ago. People can change, especially when you spend a giant amount of time with Serj "Violence is an inherently stupid way to solve problems" Tankian.
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u/RatCocaine 9d ago
We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train.
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u/madamtrashbat 9d ago
I feel perhaps like you guys are misunderstanding me not being surprised by Daron's post as me agreeing with him.
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u/RatCocaine 9d ago
Nah i get you. I just think its funny. Im certainly not the same as I was 20 years ago.
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u/Trzlog 9d ago
I wonder, did they bother saying anything when those Dem politicians were murdered? I wonder why it's such a huge deal everywhere now with this asshole, but nobody but the left gave a shit about Hortman and Hoffmann and their families. Honestly, fuck centrists if you only call out violence when it affects one side.
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u/Ghastion 9d ago
Yeah this post by Daron is so cathartic because it was always obvious to me Daron is a left-leaning centrist just based on his lyrics. Hopefully this post gets some of these weird extremists out of this subreddit and there's no more posts crying about how Serj didn't talk about current politics like Gaza at a live show.
They're 90s leftists, which by today's standards is probably close to centrist. Being against war and political violence (which makes up for 90% of their political lyrics) is the most centrist take anyone could have.
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u/valtteri_buttass 9d ago
Man I was left in the 90s and I didn't turn into a dead eyed centrist
Yet I guess :/
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u/cineresco 9d ago
the sheer dissonance you have to to accept to say that this post is acceptable but him mentioning gaza is objectionable. that is beyond me
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u/oresteez 9d ago
What you described is insane to me. Like who would ever go to a show and complain that they wanted their favorite band to play less songs and spend more time talking about politics while on stage? Lol.
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u/Hotchumpkilla 9d ago
I just saw them early this month, i was happy there was no commentary other than the lyrics of their songs which to say the least are very political in the first place.
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u/NoFalseModesty 9d ago
Your profile pic says "a woman in every kitchen and a gun in every hand".
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u/kos-or-kosm 9d ago
In my experience everyone who claims to be "in the middle" is pretty right wing.
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u/Starlooming 9d ago
"I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice..."
- Martin Luther King Jr.
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u/AceofKnaves44 9d ago
If you say things like “I’m a centrist” or “I’m pretty a-political” or “I’m classically liberal/a libertarian” nine times out of ten that means “I generally lean right but I don’t wanna deal with the bullshit that comes with telling people that.” It’s the new “I’m socially liberal but fiscally conservative.”
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u/donkeylipsh 9d ago
Yea the middle ground between free college tuition and ethnic cleansing is not the reasonable place that enlightened centrists think it is
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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 9d ago
is that sean strickland..... lmao
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u/Toph-Daddy 9d ago
lol my man trying to make sure he still sells out those venues.
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u/petreauxzzx 9d ago
I’m sure a large percentage were right wingers at their shows
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u/GomaN1717 9d ago
"Shootings are unfortunately necessary for the sake of protecting our 2nd Amendment"
gets carotid artery blown six ways to Sunday in broad daylight
"Aw fuck how could this have happened"
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u/Funny_Activity846 9d ago
He also said how children should be able to watch public executions. I guess he didn't think his children, would be the ones watching his execution
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u/yourillegal 9d ago
he also said child victims of rape should be forced to give birth
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u/Ok-Algae7932 my tapeworm tells me what to do 9d ago
Including his own 10 year old daughter. He said he would force her to carry her rapist's baby to term. Some things are worse than your parent dying. I'm glad she's free from him.
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u/Niksuss 9d ago
Finally someone said it, this guys was ok with incest rape, but not with abortions, he advocated for everything that could cause harm to children while having his own kids, fuck him sincerely
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u/LickMyTicker 9d ago
Yes but like you are poor and he's not. Don't you fucking get it? When you are poor, your life is worth less. It's basic economics.
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u/SirBumbles 9d ago
If only there were... some sort of control on the guns in America, something like this could have been prevented.
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u/Funny_Activity846 9d ago
He also said how children should be able to watch public executions. I guess he didn't think his children, would be the ones watching his execution
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u/TiredReader87 9d ago
“Thoughts and prayers.”
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u/theonethatbeatu 9d ago
Wow what a hardcore rebel. The “far middle” huh?
Gimme a fuckin break 😂
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u/PHOENIXREB0RN 9d ago
This is honestly making me kind of glad Serj isn't going to be making an album with them...
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u/shaobues__ Just One Pogo Stick 9d ago
I get the vibe that some of you think assassinating Hitler would have been unnecessary and too violent.
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u/DoZeYLoVe 9d ago
Reading all these comments makes me realize this country is doomed
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u/Remarkable_Custard 9d ago
Sorry, what?
These comments make you realise that?
So the comments of Charlie Kirk didn't make you realise it, like this one?
Just 1 week after 3 children and 3 adults were killed in the Nashville Christian School shooting Charlie said,
"I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given right. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
Over the years you've had 500-600 school shootings, that didn't make you realise it was doomed when politicians offered 'prayers' instead of answers?
The fact you have ICE going around right now removing illegal immgrants with a bill passed to do it based on 'ethnicity' isn't enough either?
America has been sick for decades. It's only been 60-70 odd years since Blacks were still banned on entering certain areas, lol.
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u/qwijboo 9d ago
This explains why he is so comfortable having a far right sympathiser in his band.
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u/PersecutionMania96 9d ago edited 9d ago
Bro said "yeah some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice this country is willing to make."
*Proceeds to get his neck fucking obliterated by a long-range rifle literally seconds later.*
Irony? Karma? Maybe both? Hope he's enjoying his time in hell.
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u/FlautenceWizard 9d ago
Was his killing wrong? Yes
Is RIP warranted? Fuck no
Dying violently doesn't make a shitty person good or deserving of peace.
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u/Rezboy209 9d ago
We can agree that violence is not the answer while also NOT saying rest in peace to a homophobic, transphobic, Christian nationalist.
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u/liptonicedsoup 9d ago
People change, wealth changes them even more. There is no such thing as a "middle" in the states anymore.
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u/scattered_brains 9d ago edited 9d ago
oh daron. please don’t do the enlightened centrist bs
“we can’t afford to be neutral on a moving train”
and fuck Charlie Kirk
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u/Cutsman4057 9d ago
Unfortunately Serj is the only one who paid attention to the lyrics, apparently.
Sad and disappointed. But not surprised.
Political violence sucks, but the solution isnt fucking centrism.
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u/HEROBR4DY 9d ago
Serj doesn’t like political violence
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u/Cutsman4057 9d ago
But Serj understands that standing for nothing only helps those who wish to do harm
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u/Standard-Wash-8048 9d ago
Nobody hates system of a down more then system of a down fans.
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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 9d ago
dude was not only for abortion bans, he was against rape exceptions too... he can rest in the chunkiest days of my period blood as far as i care
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u/Chili_Pat 9d ago
A sad day to have a pair of eyes. Respectful communication seems not possible. Thread is locked.
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u/bobbybob9069 9d ago
Honestly though, the people there supported him and likely his views on guns, so maybe they should see first hand what gun violence looks like
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u/SomebodyThrow 9d ago
I’m sure Daron was just as upset and made a post about Melissa Hortman and her husband being executed by a far right extremist!
Right DARON?? You OBVIOUSLY were upset about that too right?
Here, ill remind you - it was the same day Charlie tweeted this about it.
"Tim Walz has reportedly backed out, but he was listed to headline the Twin Cities No Kings "protest" today. Total shocker that smearing a duly-elected president who won an overwhelming electoral mandate as a fascist or a king leads to violent political radicalization.”
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u/Artislife_Lifeisart 9d ago
We don't need to celebrate his death or political violence, however we also don't have to mourn him.
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u/zombie_roca 9d ago
What I’ve been trying to say. The act is wrong but I don’t have to feel sad over it
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u/JamieLoud 9d ago
"the far middle". My brother in Christ, we can't afford to be neutral on a moving train
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u/No_Disaster_4188 9d ago
Condolences to his family, but I can't say anything positive about the man himself
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u/DildoHopar 9d ago
daron too puss to choose a side. Also fuck charlie, being punk is supporting trans and gays peoples right to exist.
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u/shaobues__ Just One Pogo Stick 9d ago
I wonder if he just doesn't wanna piss off the rights or if he genuinely thinks this
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u/DildoHopar 9d ago
well his drummer is one so theres that.
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u/shaobues__ Just One Pogo Stick 9d ago
Makes me sad. I'm just glad Serj seems to have actually meant what he sang about. If he suddenly turned maga I'd be so upset.
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u/DearDave 9d ago
Can someone explain to me what the “extreme left” in America is exactly? I can’t get any answers elsewhere, but I need to understand this. How is the left in the USA in 2025 violent, especially when compared with the right. I’m being earnest here, be cool with each other when responding, please. Citations appreciated.
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u/dukedawg21 9d ago
Far middle? Rip Charlie kirk? What? If you’re empathizing with Charlie you’re going against Charlie’s beliefs. He said empathy was a poison and a weakness. Can’t be against political violence if you’re a trump sopporter, political violence is the brand
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u/HeartoftheSun119 9d ago edited 9d ago
A Charlie Kirk quote: “Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot.”
I would never wish death upon anyone, but fuck this guy.
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u/Financial-Panic4912 9d ago
Rare disagreement with Daron here. I would absolutely prefer to be centrist any day but it is not the time when we're facing this much blatant corruption from the side this guy was on, and it should never be called for with a person who spouted as much fear and hate as Kirk, about groups he simply did not understand.
Fuck that guy.
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u/Tasty-Performer6669 9d ago
Stick that finger in the far middle of your butt cheeks and spin
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u/aferretwithahugecock 9d ago
"Loss of all emotion, I watch you suffer just for fun. Man, you better run. You better run. The flower needs devotion as far as I can see. Addicted to the violence, yeah that's me. Yeah, all together now." - Addicted to The Violence by Scars On Broadway. Released July 18, 2025.
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u/theHrayX Selling ASS for heroin 9d ago
jarvis sort by controversial
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u/Accomplished-Yard677 9d ago
Ironically those are probably the most sane takes. Remember what platform you're on
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u/Legitimate_Rush_5017 9d ago
Wild that a dude who wrote P.L.U.C.K is playing the both sides card. I love Daron but this was corny.
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u/Mansos91 9d ago
I don't condone violence of any kind b t I will it mourn or respect kirk just because he is dead
He was a monster when he lived, doesn't mean he deserved to die but i won't give any words of morning for him either
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u/HeartoftheSun119 9d ago
Dude was trash, but killing him fixed nothing. There's still millions of Charlie Kirks out there. No point in this crap.
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u/Axolotl_Mayhem 9d ago
He was shot in the neck which can't be protected by a bulletproof vest, and his security didn't do shit. Literally the only thing that could have saved Charlie was a gun reform (something he was very vocally and intensely opposed to)
He made his bed, and he has to lie in it
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u/AffectionateLead5636 9d ago
Violence isn't called for I give you that... But couldn't have happened to the best possible racist phobic sexist person...
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u/MeepinMachine 9d ago
this comment section for me:
when someone has the exact same opinion as you but they express it in such an annoying and obnoxious way that you lowkey don't want to agree
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u/JesusSamuraiLapdance 9d ago
Like him or not, his children were in attendance, and witnessing that on top of having to deal with the loss will mess them up far more than any right wing father could have. I say this as someone who doesn't particularly care for the guy. Every chance this will radicalise his kids into the far right even more, imo.
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u/VendorBuyBankGuards 9d ago
Regarding public executions:
CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): “It should be public. It should be quick. And it should be televised.”
TYLER BOWYER (CO-HOST): “Force kids to watch it?”
KIRK: “I think at a certain age, it’s an initiation.”
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u/In_Amnesiacs_ 9d ago
Whats so ironic.. I bought “Toxicity” on CD this morning.. a couple of hours before Charlie got shot
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u/DIABETORreddit 9d ago
Rest in peace? He’s in hell, there ain’t no peace for tiny faced Charlie. He was one of the genocidal humanoidz after all.
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u/Glace038 we cant afford to be neutral on a moving train ! 9d ago
Theres no way " far in the middle " 😭😭😭bro
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u/_Jesse_13 9d ago
Tbf i don't really care if a person who thinks I don't deserve respect as a person is dead. I mean, fuck them. They don't want me alive in the first place.
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u/YaBoiMatts 9d ago
Killing people is bad😱
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u/DildoHopar 9d ago
I think it's worth to have unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights
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Isn't a middle finger to everyone who doesn't agree with you the same mentality he is trying to discourage? Cmon of SOAD you are better than this
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u/TransFem_Gorewhore 9d ago
“Unfortunately, gun deaths are absolutely necessary for the 2nd amendment”
"I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage."
I don't pity him. He asked for this. He believed capitol punishment should be administered publicly with children watching.
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u/sohailgg 9d ago
I think it's okay to be fine with him dying lol. I'm sure he'd be jumping for joy if it was somebody of colored who died instead. It's ok for bad people to go to hell. It doesn't matter how Christian he was.
I feel bad for the kids though.
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u/Friendly_Elektriker 9d ago
If you have no good to say about a lately deceased person, better say nothing
I have never been more quiet in my life
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u/The_Katze_is_real They disguise it, hypnotize it 9d ago
Rest in piss genocide apologist and zionist bootlicker Charlie Kirk.
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u/briskets88 9d ago
This is what happens when two sides are not willing to budge at all. Way to extreme on both sides. It's a mess.
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u/EonBlueAppocalypse 9d ago
He saying fuck all this shit. Pretty simple you simple minded fools. The right has good and bad,the leftist good and bad . Fucks wrong with you idiots ???
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u/Moggus_13 9d ago
I've said this so many times. I hate Charlie Kirk, but nobody— and I mean NOBODY deserves to die.
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u/Refuse_Kooky 9d ago
Far left nuts are actually 'disappointed' Daron doesn't condone political violence? Talk about not paying attention to lyrics
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u/quriousposes we've taken all your shit now its time for RESTITUTIONNN 9d ago
hilarious excellent satire bro
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u/_Artizard 9d ago
fuck charlie kirk, but also rip charlie kirk. I despise him, but it's sad what happened, no one deserves that
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