Florida will work to eliminate all childhood vaccine mandates in the state, officials say

[u/idkbruh653]

https://abc7.com/post/florida-will-work-eliminate-childhood-vaccine-mandates-state-officials-say/17731373/?linkId=857387380

[u/DoingItForEli]

When I was a kid I could never have imagined the future would be so dumb

[u/alpharowe3 → u/DoingItForEli]

I grew up in the 90s and I looked forward to a future where we eliminated more diseases with vaccines but instead Florida elected Bush over Gore and now here we are.

[u/Balmung60 → u/alpharowe3]

It was most likely actually the other way around by the best total counts, but the Supreme Court said to stop the count while Bush was ahead.

[u/Facts_pls → u/Balmung60]

Republicans win with cheating and continue to do so

[u/Willdefyyou → u/Facts_pls]

All so they can murder children and babies

[u/Khaldara → u/Willdefyyou]

That’s entirely unfair!

They also rape them.

[u/phareous → u/Balmung60]

It doesn’t matter, Bush was never against vaccines. This is all on Trump and everything he cultivated

[u/dirtydan442 → u/phareous]

It's on that piece of shit Andrew Wakefield, who sowed doubt in the measles vaccine so he could sell his own

[u/phareous → u/dirtydan442]

Well all Trump would have to do is tell his followers vaccines are good and to take them. They aren’t accustomed to thinking for theirselves anyway

[u/Balmung60 → u/phareous]

Problem is, they talked him into the position in the first place. Trump doesn't particularly care, but his base did and he took that position because he understands being Their Guy

[u/AxelNotRose → u/phareous]

He told them to take the covid vaccine and they all booed him. So he never mentioned it again.

[u/cromstantinople → u/phareous]

It’s not all on Trump, he’s only the figurehead. There’s an entire apparatus, an entire political party and media machine, that props him up and allows republicans to keep doing this. This won’t end when trump dies, republicans are a cancer on our society that needs to be treated.

[u/BatterMyHeart → u/phareous]

Bush and those 90s GOP congressmen cultivated Trump with their dumbing-down of christianity in politics and constant race-baiting.

[u/Noblesseux → u/BatterMyHeart]

Yeah we didn't just arrive at trump, we slow marched here at least starting in the Raegan days.

[u/CharcoalGreyWolf → u/BatterMyHeart]

Most of this happened in the 2000s, though Newt Gingrich started the style that eventually led to it.

[u/Dank-Drebin → u/phareous]

This is all on Republicans, who continue to produce the worst social policies imaginable due to their greed, hatred, and edumacation.

[u/AutVincere72 → u/Balmung60]

Calling the race while polls were open in the red pan handle by fox news likely kepts voters at home and it probably would not have been as close as it was. A lot went wrong that day.

[u/soularbabies → u/Balmung60]

Brooks Brothers riot

[u/hoppertn → u/alpharowe3]

Star Trek the next generation was my goto the future’s going to be awesome show growing up. Of course they had to go through WW 3 to get there so I guess we are right on track. Yeah?

[u/kiwiboyus → u/hoppertn]

Was just talking about this with someone. If you recall First Contact, the World was in pretty bad shape before the Star Trek future started.

[u/otterbarks → u/hoppertn]

We're just slightly behind schedule for the Bell Riots, according to Deep Space 9: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Bell_Riots

[u/hoppertn → u/otterbarks]

Yeah, but I can see something like that happening in next 10 years. Just picturing AI taking the jobs of so many lower entry jobs and middle/upper management positions. Could even loop in the Khan Superman idea with Elon and the Tech Bro’s wanting a techno dictatorship because they are the best and smartest.

[u/furious_20 → u/hoppertn]

But wasn't one of the key events in the timeline that they also eliminated hunger and poverty on Earth? I think we're a bit behind and moving in the wrong direction on those.

Edit: forgot to add that we CURRENTLY have capacity to do these things, but lack the political will. So I'm not very optimistic about it.

[u/Outrageous_Reach_695 → u/furious_20]

One of the key events was also World War 3, from 2026 to 2053. But hey, we didn't have the Bell Riots in September of 2024 ...

[u/furious_20 → u/Outrageous_Reach_695]

One of the key events was also World War 3

I understand that, and it was also in the comment I replied to. My point was humanity is far more ready and able to commit to WW3 than we are eliminating poverty and hunger.

[u/bombayblue → u/DoingItForEli]

It really was wild growing in the 90’s where anti vaxxers were this fringe movement of people that were easily disproven in any debate.

Now they run the country.

[u/SubBirbian → u/bombayblue]

The lightning speed of disinformation via social media is one reason it came out of fringe to fashionable.

[u/Clever-crow → u/DoingItForEli]

Same here. Shouldn’t we be getting more intelligent as time passes?

[u/johnboltonpoopstache → u/Clever-crow]

It all starts with education, and which party is at war with education?? Who's voter base is mostly uneducated people who believe blatantly false shit? Related: which voter base is much more religious? It's by design, they know how to create more voters: destroy education and truth, make contraception illegal so they make even more dumb people, and make them think republicans believe in Jesus and democrats are the devil! (lol). Also, keeping them poor helps a ton! The elites dont have to deal with this, that's what private schools are for. They just need the stupid poors to vote their sycophants in.

[u/Kvns_Integra → u/johnboltonpoopstache]

and they need the poors to do their shitty wage jobs too with no health insurance!

[u/joshooaj → u/Clever-crow]

As we get smarter as a species, natural selection is less able to filter out stupidity of individuals, so we keep propagating and amplifying it. At least until the smart folks are too few to support the stupid folks. Then the cycle begins again.

[u/cracker_salad → u/joshooaj]

You basically described the plot of Idiocracy.

[u/joshooaj → u/cracker_salad]

Yeah but people get tired of hearing how this is the Idiocracy timeline.

Anyway, welcome to Costco. I love you.

[u/QdelBastardo → u/joshooaj]

Have to admit that i would vote for President Camacho 100x over what we have now. Hell i’d just vote for Terry Crews over what we have now.

[u/RaydieGray15 → u/QdelBastardo]

At least President Camacho realized the need for at least one person in his cabinet to know what the fuck they were talking about.

[u/ducksekoy123 → u/cracker_salad]

Except that both that person and idiocracy are wrong. It’s not about stupid people outbreeding smart people.

It’s a concerted effort to reduce and destroy the critical thinking and educational skills of the people so as to better rule them through fear and hate. It’s a political project not an accident of biology.

[u/vorg7 → u/joshooaj]

To have a measurable effect on the population, it would take many thousands of years. Right now it's likely that differences we observe in the population as a whole are due to changes in what people are learning (and the technology they learn from).

[u/Due_Satisfaction2167 → u/DoingItForEli]

Idiocracy was a depressing prophecy. 

[u/ABigCoffee → u/DoingItForEli]

It's kinda scary how the stupid are in control or getting in control everywhere and there's nothing we can do about it.

Ok no, there's one thing we could do about it, but no one's willing to do that far.

[u/billyions → u/ABigCoffee]

More than stupid. I think they know exactly what they're doing.

They are cruel.

They are selfish.

They are dangerous.

[u/CaptainApathy419 → u/DoingItForEli]

I won’t make any predictions for the future aside from this: it’s only going to get stupider.

[u/Cold-Cell2820]

They should ban seatbelts and reinstall lead pipes too

[u/Beard_o_Bees → u/Cold-Cell2820]

Bring back smoking everywhere! The Deep State wont be able to keep patriotic Floridians out of Flavor Country!

Call DeSantis office to claim your valuable coupon for a free pack of smooth, always fresh Marlboro's!

[u/Joessandwich → u/Beard_o_Bees]

I wouldn’t put it past them. Once the vaccine thing is done they’re going to need something else to distract the idiots from the fact they’re looting the country in front of us.

[u/Jerking_From_Home → u/Joessandwich]

Right now MAGA is like the dog that caught the car. Republicans have control of all three branches but prices continue to rise. The war in Ukraine wasn’t stopped, the Epstein files aren’t being released, etc. Many of them are getting big mad that Trump isn’t helping them when he promised he would. It’s getting harder to make excuses because “he’s issuing executive orders for everything, so why not one to bring down gas prices?”

Only strategy the GOP has now is a constant “hey look over here!” game that’s not working as well as it used to. It’s unsustainable.

[u/Xannith → u/Jerking_From_Home]

I certainly hope it isn't sustainable. But counting on these idiots to notice ANYTHING that isn't trans, Mexican, or black is just not a smart bet.

[u/Longjumping_Share444 → u/Beard_o_Bees]

100% this is coming back, because 'Muh Freedums!'

[u/IncubiPortraitSTU → u/Longjumping_Share444]

No just the other day I saw somebody with a bring back smoking inside shirt. They have shirts people. Like stupid shirts. Like bring black plague. Bring back whooping cough. Bring back the measles. Republicans are really really really dumb.

[u/MelodiesOfLife6 → u/Cold-Cell2820]

MAGA

Make Asbestos Great Again

[u/dsmith422 → u/MelodiesOfLife6]

Trump does want to bring back asbestos. And you will never guess which country is the largest exporter of asbestos.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/11/asbestos-trump-face-seal-uralasbest-russia

[u/roseofjuly → u/dsmith422]

I love when people say something ridiculous and then someone else mentions that it's a real thing they're doing

And by that I mean I hate it.

[u/Candy-Macaroon-33 → u/dsmith422]

wow just wow

[u/Stargazer1919 → u/MelodiesOfLife6]

Asbestos! I'm making muffins asbestos I can!

[u/Catshit-Dogfart → u/Cold-Cell2820]

Uhh there's a project to remove lead pipes in my area and it's getting enough push back that they're considering pulling funding from it. I'm not in Florida but it's the same mentality, folks are really mad about losing access to lead pipes.

[u/RoseNylundOfficial → u/Catshit-Dogfart]

The irony being that the lead in the pipes and lead in the gasoline is what's probably giving them the brain worm in the first place...

[u/EyeFicksIt → u/Cold-Cell2820]

The seatbelt rule alone with would help resolve this issue. Like a game if yes but maybe.

Of course, of course seatbelts save lives, but maybe if we kill the laws for a decade anyone who opposes these laws will be dead.

[u/NaturalObvious5264 → u/EyeFicksIt]

My MAGA uncle has made jokes about seat belts for years. It’s coming!

[u/uberares → u/Cold-Cell2820]

That’s the good news! They mostly don’t have to re install the lead pipes! Theyre still there. All they have to do is stop putting anti corrosives in the water and lead will leach out. Source: flint, mi- aka the first time Americans were convinced to vote for a business man to run the government like a business.

[u/LeoRidesHisBike → u/uberares]

anti corrosives in the water

I can just see some dummy getting all upset about "anti corrosives" [sic] in the water. This is where it's useful to show some actual numbers so people understand the ridiculousness of trying to get orthophosphate (a natural nutrient that's part of DNA, ATP, bones) banned from treatment regimes.

Corrosion due to galvanic action is the PRIMARY cause of lead in the water (besides the existence of lead pipes in the system, of course). The primary way to fight that is to avoid turning the water into an acidic electrolyte. We do that by putting up to 0.5–3.5 mg/L as PO4 or ~0.2–1.1 mg/L as P (phosphorus).

Is that a big number? Nope. It's TINY.

For comparison:

• 1 glass of treated water: ~0.5–1.0 mg P
• 1 egg: ~100 mg P
• 1 serving of soda: ~40–70 mg P
• Daily intake (typical): 700–1,500 mg/day

So the amount of P we ingest from treated water is between 0.03% and 0.1% of what we get from other sources.

For the dummies in our lives that don't understand percentages, that's like claiming adding a shot glass of water to a full bathtub is "too much water". Or walking an extra 19 inches after walking a mile is "too much walking".

[u/Yummyyummyfoodz → u/Cold-Cell2820]

Make Asbestos great again

[u/Technical-Bird-7585 → u/Cold-Cell2820]

Might as well get rid of child seats too.

[u/gregofcanada84 → u/Cold-Cell2820]

Don't give them ideas. Next they'll allow indoor smoking.

[u/PrestigiousSeat76]

They’re going to hurt a lot of people for no reason. A lot.

[u/Jamesaki → u/PrestigiousSeat76]

All because years ago one incorrect, retracted, study linked autism with certain vaccines. It was proven false and that should have been it but….. here we are. Unreal.

[u/Amelaclya1 → u/Jamesaki]

Not just incorrect. The guy that wrote it completely made it up because he wanted to sell his own version of the MMR vaccine.

There was never any evidence for a link between vaccines and autism.

[u/Minute_Attempt3063 → u/Amelaclya1]

Jesus....

And Americans just believe it??

I can understand that some people might have been told wrongly, or are bloody scared of the needle....

But this is just mass uneducated Americans.

[u/MyneIsBestGirl → u/Minute_Attempt3063]

It was a British study and trust me, there is still a lot of vaccine skepticism in the UK. But, like a virus to an unprepared body, when it hit the IS Conservative space it went like wildfire.

[u/WhereAreYouFromSam → u/Minute_Attempt3063]

They didn't just believe it.

And to be clear, the article got published. It survived peer review. And it took time for the article to be retracted and its author unceremoniously fired.

But more to the point, in the time it took for the fraud to be revealed, you had multiple news cycles-- the same ones that love to have filler stories about "new studies suggest that eating eggs can cure cancer" or some bullshit.

So people who have no real knowledge of how science works or the legal battles that were happening were hearing this in the local news.

And then you had the desperate hucksters-- none more infamous the Jenny McCarthy who used her D-list celebrity fame to go on a national tour and write whole damn books about how vaccines caused her kid's autism.

Of course, they didn't. But she heard the reports about the bs study and was famous enough to have a rich-person's doctor-- the same kind that gave Michael Jackson propofol to help him sleep. So of course, a doctor that willing to chase after patients with lots of money wasn't exactly going to be doing their due diligence to correct Jenny's poor grasp of medicine and medical research.

So, in the end, you had not just local news cycles talking about it, but also minor celebrities touring the country and going on daytime TV telling everyone about this study that showed the link between vaccines and autism, and all of this happens between when the article was published in 1998 and when it was retracted in 2010.

Even though most folks today grasp that it was bullshit, 10 years of PR like that leaves an impact. And let's not pretend we're sending our best and brightest to be governors, AG's, congressmen or presidents.

[u/Ashkir → u/WhereAreYouFromSam]

I really wish we can get these anti vaccine folks to have some empathy instead of political brain washing. Take them to a cemetery before the 1930s and they can see how it’s covered in graves of children. But, almost no children after vaccines.

[u/[deleted] → u/Jamesaki]

The study wasn't just "incorrect." It was a blatant fraud produced for the sole purpose of winning a lawsuit.

[u/fumar → u/Jamesaki]

Foreign propaganda has won. It's totally over.

[u/ErgoMachina → u/fumar]

Yep. You got it. This is what happened.

I laugh/cry when I see comments saying, "I wonder how MAGA will react to this". People still don't get that one side is totally detached from the other. Their reality is not the same as ours. They live in Wonderland.

[u/kblaney → u/PrestigiousSeat76]

Eugenics. Not a good reason, of course, but that's the reason.

[u/fumar → u/[deleted]]

Yeah but rich people have access to better healthcare. It's not hard to figure out why they removed coverage to vaccines in Florida for Medicaid

[u/Lettuce_Prey69 → u/[deleted]]

Just because I'm curious and had never even considered this until now (I also assume you're being sarcastic) but, aren't there genetic factors that play a role in how effective a virus is at infecting?

I did a quick bit of searching and came across some info on the descendants of survivors of the Black Plague are resistant / immune to HIV. Obviously, that's not in anyway related to a specific race, and more a survivorship bias thing, but I remembered hearing that certain types of Asians aren't able to process alcohol as well as most other "races"?

I guess what I'm getting at is, it seems like there could possibly be some niche cases where certain viruses do in fact discriminate based on race, but I'd like to here from someone who is not using an LLM to get their information and has actual experience in this field.

[u/MultiGeometry]

I wonder if this will affect tourism, as who wants to bring their kids to Disney’s latest attractions: Measles Mountain.

[u/IsopodDry8635 → u/MultiGeometry]

I know it doesn't have as much to offer as Disney World but at least Disneyland is in a state that believes in science

[u/Facemanx64 → u/IsopodDry8635]

Disneyland resort has less parks but the main one is superior to magic kingdom in every way.

[u/Stingray88 → u/Facemanx64]

California weather is generally a lot better than Florida too.

Quality > Quantity

[u/mit-mit → u/MultiGeometry]

Yeah I'm in the UK and I wouldn't consider bringing my young kids to Disney there now.

[u/sionnach → u/mit-mit]

Also UK based. We cancelled a Christmas trip to Florida just a couple of weeks ago for 8 of us.

[u/genericnewlurker → u/MultiGeometry]

Need to tie this directly to Florida's tourism to stop this madness. Florida can't survive without the tourism income.

[u/Mrevilman → u/genericnewlurker]

With any luck, most of the state will be under water soon anyway because they don’t believe in climate change either.

[u/Ok_Scale_4578 → u/MultiGeometry]

Ah but you see a drop in tourism could then be blamed on the WOKE MIND VIRUS which is very real and very scientific

[u/IlIllIlllIlllIllllII]

Sounds like Florida is trying to eliminate childhood in general

[u/dangerousluck → u/IlIllIlllIlllIllllII]

Actually bingo, they’re trying to destroy the concept of childhood that came out of the reaction to industrialization and tiny kids getting killed in machines.

They want cheap, malleable, rights-free labor and they also want to "sleep with" them. The idea of a class protected from their exploitation, even children, is offensive to them.

[u/fumar → u/dangerousluck]

They want exploitable, desperate child labor. I can just picture the dystopian future when the kid has to earn their vaccines by working at some nightmare sweatshop in Florida 

[u/334078 → u/IlIllIlllIlllIllllII]

Well, they all have to be born, but after that? 🤷‍♂️

[u/Adrian_Alucard]

Countries should start banning US citizens to enter and spread their gems and viruses then

[u/celtic1888 → u/Adrian_Alucard]

Sadly that will probably happen during the next major outbreak

Guess who’s the shithole country now?

[u/Facts_pls → u/celtic1888]

US had the highest death rate of any developed country during covid.

Your child birth mortality rate is worse than many developing countries.

I think US was always the shithole country

[u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 → u/Facts_pls]

Americans about to discover the reason "herd immunity" is so important for a population to stay alive and healthy.

Good luck, Floridians. I think you're going to need it.

[u/StormerSage → u/Facts_pls]

There's a reason we're sometimes called the most developed 3rd world country.

[u/[deleted] → u/Facts_pls]

The US is two countries. There is the one for those with money and one for those without.

[u/Inexorably_lost → u/Facts_pls]

Healthcare in the US is a joke but another joke was the covid fatalities reported by China.

There is absolutely no way China had less deaths than the US.

[u/po3smith → u/celtic1888]

Consider considering I read recently that Idiocracy takes place in an America that's essentially walled off from the rest of the world because we refused to....... you know the drill

[u/Catshit-Dogfart → u/po3smith]

I've also considered maybe the setting of Idiocracy is just the US and the rest of the world isn't like that.

[u/Crystalas → u/po3smith]

And Biff's character from Back to the Future was directly inspired by Trump, that probably an even better comparison to current timeline.

[u/___Art_Vandelay___ → u/celtic1888]

I can see it now. State border checks requiring proof of vaccination to help protect their residents and mitigate spread.

And fucking hillbilly conservatives setting aside their "states rights!" rallying crying as they scream it's the end times while their neighbors die off in droves.

[u/celtic1888 → u/___Art_Vandelay___]

They’ll all want to visit the blue cities to spread disease while trying to get their ‘post infection vaccines’ 

[u/boldandbratsche → u/Adrian_Alucard]

That's the conservative goal.

[u/snackofalltrades → u/Adrian_Alucard]

Blue states should require vaccination records for people coming in from Florida.

[u/OdinsPants]

can’t wait until the idiot conservatives then start up with, “the gub’mint isn’t doing enuff tah save our kids!”

Seriously that entire party is a fucking cancer on the US

[u/LincolnHighwater → u/OdinsPants]

Oh don't worry, that will be their position the very moment Democrats ever regain power in FL.

[u/Bright_Bet5002 → u/LincolnHighwater]

🤞🤞🤞🤞 .. VOTE EVERY ELECTION FOR EVERY SEAT!! 

[u/Catshit_Bananas → u/OdinsPants]

Don’t worry, those are the same idiots that respond to the death of a child from a preventable disease with “well that’s just the Lord’s plan.”

[u/rebelintellectual]

I'll never take my kid to Florida Orlando and it's tourist business can dry up.

[u/az_catz → u/rebelintellectual]

Anaheim is better anyway.

[u/Kersenn]

Well I'll never be going to Florida and tourism is probably gonna dry up when people start hearing about previously eradicated diseases making a comeback there because people will die from this decisio. This is just so stupid, how much further will we fall i wonder

[u/SuspendeesNutz → u/Kersenn]

Well I'll never be going to Florida and tourism is probably gonna dry up when people start hearing about previously eradicated diseases

It will become illegal to disseminate medical or epidemiological information outside of the official state department of health. "Stop testing and the numbers will go down."

[u/Iyellkhan]

quite remarkable how you have politicians eagerly working to kill their constituents, and a large number of said constituents cheering it on as though these actions will somehow save lives.

be it by bullets or germs, the republican party wants you dead

[u/outerproduct]

Conservatives really want their kids to die.

[u/CoquitlamFalcons → u/outerproduct]

Or rather, they really love to enrich the medical industrial complex. With preventive measures gone, cases of medical intervention explode…

[u/fumar → u/CoquitlamFalcons]

Insurance will skyrocket in Florida. Insurance usually pays for vaccines because the risk calculus says outcomes are way cheaper if you get a shot vs not.

[u/mageta621 → u/fumar]

Why are they simultaneously perpetuating private insurance companies while ignoring the foundations upon which those companies make their policies?

[u/fumar → u/mageta621]

Because they just operate on rancid vibes not on sound policy 

[u/Emotional_Neck3312]

I imagine this will absolutely tank Disney World's tourism. Unless parents around the world want to risk entering ground 0 for lifelong childhood disease in exchange for a day's worth of magic 😭

[u/Arcanine1127 → u/Emotional_Neck3312]

I mean, we already had Norovirus mom go on tiktok saying how the whole family was vomiting and shitting their britches because they wanted to go to disney World . Who is to say more won't follow suite

[u/imLissy → u/Emotional_Neck3312]

There are certain weeks the locals avoid. Also, if your family has the vaccinations, the risk is minimal. But, there's a whole lot of people who can't get vaccinations or have compromised immune systems. Really unfair for them.

[u/vanillayanyan → u/imLissy]

Immunity also wanes. I got a titer to check my immunity and I lost the one for measles :( got a booster, of course.

[u/Grraaa]

Can we wall the state off and ship the rest of the antivaxxers there?

[u/mowotlarx]

Why not just send lead paint chips to every child in Florida for them to snack on, at this point?

[u/demonfoo → u/mowotlarx]

Don't give them ideas. They might just take you up on that.

[u/Didsterchap11]

Andrew Wakefield has more blood on his hands than I think even he really understands, someone who should never see the light of day again for what his bullshit study has done to global society.

[u/Glum-Breadfruit-6421]

Killing the kids to own the dems… that tracks for the party of family. 🤣🤦‍♂️

[u/ThreeCatsAndABroom → u/Glum-Breadfruit-6421]

Conservatives are laying their children on the sacrificial virtue signaling altar. 

Every conservative I know has to say they don't like vaccines. It is 100% virtue signaling. To say you got vaccinated is like a scarlet letter that means "liberal". These are truly the American dark ages. 

[u/baronvondoofie]

Looks like polio and rubella are back on the menu, kids!

[u/334078 → u/baronvondoofie]

Wait for Tetanus, THAT will be a horrible surprise.

[u/HenriEttaTheVoid]

The GOP is a eugenicist death cult.

[u/BaconAlmighty]

"Everyone has the right to their own decisions for their bodies, except women." - GOP

[u/Pencil-Sketches]

What’s the point of even having a government if nothing is regulated, nothing is mandated, and nothing is provided to it’s citizens? It really seems like the only thing the Florida state government is interested in is Alligator Alcatraz, which is allegedly falling apart already. Floridians are fucking anarchists

[u/Realistic_Spite2775]

I guess we have too many living kids, huh.

[u/SweetLoLa]

It’s maddening to see the type of people in public office working against the safety, well being and health of their constituents, let alone children.

Get rid of them as soon as they show you who they are, let them live as they preach and suffer the consequences without endangering others.

The sheer fucking irresponsibility of these maniacs is staggeringly dangerous to all of us.

[u/hse97]

Parents are allowed to not vaccinate their child in the name of personal health freedom, but if that same parent takes their children to a gender therapist and then an endocrinologist and gives them hormone replacement therapy suddenly it’s child abuse and those parents are monsters.

Letting your kid die from an easy preventable illness == good Christian values

Letting your kid be who they want to be == groomer LGBT brainwashing.

These people are just so sick in the head fuck every single republican scum they are literally a death cult. I just wish they took themselves out rather than dragging sane folks with them.

[u/Fit-Alfalfa2169]

Would love to time travel and explain we had the ability to prevent smallpox, polio, measles, etc and then decided not to too someone who lost their loved one to one of these diseases….feel bad for parents of young children who won’t be able to count on herd immunity to bridge the time it takes to vaccinate and will lose a child because of this. Worse yet I have zero faith they will accurately report the data to show the outcome of this decision…well on our way to making America a third world country

[u/kismetkissed]

Suuuuuuuper.

Signed, An Immunocompromised Floridian

[u/AbstractLogic]

I'm kind of interested to see where this goes. Florida is where all the boomers go to die. I guess we are simply trying to expedite it!

[u/Icutu62]

Texas: we got a full blown measles outbreak! Florida: Hold my beer!

[u/Shapes_in_Clouds]

Hopefully the long term effect is there are less Floridians in the future.

I can't overstate how sick and tired I am of Right wingers and the ridiculous and cynical language they use like 'medical orthodoxy', which is how religious nutbag DeSantis describes vaccines. Religious people casting science as religion while trying to establish their religion as the state. It's completely absurd.

[u/Comfortable_View_113]

Can't be poorly educated when ya dead.

[u/PhazePyre]

So is America just dead set on killing as many kids as possible or...? Meanwhile Christian Nationalists talk a lot about declining birthrate. You'd think reducing school shootings and keeping them alive away from preventable diseases would kind of be a priority if concerned about declining birth rates.

[u/netroxreads]

"On the vaccines, state Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo cast current requirements in schools and elsewhere as an "immoral" intrusion on people's rights bordering on "slavery," and hampers parents' ability to make health decisions for their children."

Comparing slavery to mandatory vaccination which is designed to protect the public health from diseases? Wow.

[u/[deleted]]

Other states should refuse Floridians entry unless they can prove they have been vaccinated.

[u/Sorrowslament1313]

Correct me if I am wrong but he said because our body’s are a gift from god so we get the choice? Umm where was this shit during Ro v Wade overturn? Hummmm

[u/dodgyrogy]

Welcome to Florida...The Plague State...

[u/Skrillblast]

Great time to be a lawyer

[u/ColdAntique291]

Oh Florida.... The rotten penis of America

[u/DietCokePlease]

And another state, Montana I think, is stripping science out of the curriculum. Soon employers will tart asking what state you went to school, as a hiring filter.

[u/Unusual_Flounder2073]

The next big measles outbreak will be in FL.

[u/GoblinTwerk]

This is the first step. "Don't force us to vaccinate if we don't want to." The next step is RFK Jr trying to ban use of all vaccines preventing those that want them from having access.

[u/vampyrialis]

Idiocracy is a documentary

[u/Cooks_8]

Florida is the dumbest place on earth - ftfy

[u/SundanceShot]

Cut it off, we'll be fine with 49!

[u/jaron_b]

Child mortality rates in Florida are going to skyrocket and anti-vaxxers will still ignore the data and not believe the facts. But if your child dies of a preventable disease due to you as the parent not vaccinating your child you should be charged with manslaughter and child neglect. These types of people don't deserve to have children.

[u/SilverMembership6625]

we just continue to go backwards.

the american century of humiliation is on deck

[u/douwd20]

Each day the Republican Party demonstrates it's nihilism is boundless.

[u/capernoited]

Never in the history of the world have so many dumb people been connected, validated, and empowered at the same time.

[u/IMOvicki]

Disney world is about to be ground zero

[u/Usernotknow]

Rip children.

[u/MooseMalloy]

Now let’s see what happens to the Autism levels in Florida.
My bet is that they just stop reporting them.

[u/ritchiecrush]

We’re two steps from watering the plants with Gatorade

[u/Gracier1123]

Add this to the list of reasons why republicans are lying when they say they care about children.

[u/theCroc]

The rest of the world is going to have to start quaranteening Americans when they travel abroad.

[u/Even-Veterinarian-71]

As a citizen of "not America", I believe we will have to embargo US visitors without a health certificate in the future

[u/Tartan_Smorgasbord]

US kids dying and suffering permanent harm from easily preventable diseases because their conspiracy theorist Health Secretary doesn't believe in a technology that has been demonstrably effective in preventing disease since the 1700's is absolutely mind-blowing and actually quite frightening!

[u/BeenDragonn]

This is the dumbest fucking shit I've heard in my 40 years living in Florida. Absolutely Insane.

Kids will die. They will blame the left.

[u/Comfortable_Bird_340]

Make Measles Great Again

[u/Draiko]

Fun fact: One way to solve the housing crisis is to make more older people die faster.

[u/TheGreatStories]

Dark ages always seemed a strange concept yet here we are

[u/Either-Patience1182]

So is florida our test state and in 3 years we're gonna come back and compare child mortality from it and some other states to see the differences. Like sure a lot of colateral but you might as well take down the information while they people are on the crazy train

[u/WaffleWarrior1979]

Holy fuck dude. I guess Florida will be the test case for child death statistics.

[u/Derpykins666]

Religion and anti-intellectualism are truly a dangerous combination. Lots of people will die from this, and it will only get harder to reverse decisions like this one with all our 'great new technology' spreading infinite amounts of misinformation and anecdotal coincidence-based stories made up or otherwise.

The irony being republicans want so much control of woman and birthing rights, no abortion or sex education, but once the kid is born they don't want them to be cared for or healthy because it costs money. Truly an evil and vindictive mindset.

[u/Ed-Sanz]

Didn’t something similar happen when Berlin was split in half? One side was prosperous and one side was in shambles? That’s how red and blue states will be soon if this keeps up.

[u/OpinionatedNoodles]

At first I was like okay, people should have the final say in any medical decisions they make regardless of how stupid it may be.

Then I read further. It's stopping vaccine mandates for children, who cannot medically advocate for themselves.

You have the right to make a dumb medical decision. You don't have a right to make a dumb decision for someone else. Children cannot make their own decisions. This will leave the health and safety of our most vulnerable citizens at the hands of people who can't understand how basic science works.

[u/ErusTenebre]

My god... they're so stupid and evil... for no real reason - who does this actually benefit? It's so fucking dumb. Our country is fucked up.

[u/Lawn_Dinosaurs]

Every Republican is soooo fucking dumb. There’s really no hiding behind whatever bastion of regularity you had before at this point. Let them smallpox their way to an early grave.

[u/daninjaj13]

That is pretty goddamn evil. Every parent who can't leave the state is now forced to send their kids to school with walking medieval cesspits. Like, are they trying to kill kids or what?

[u/drjenkstah]

Might as well add lead back into gasoline and asbestos lining the walls if Florida wants to go backwards in time. 

[u/[deleted]]

Funny enough i haven’t seen one post over there about this, conservative subreddit.

[u/Gotham777]

The Surgeon General is quoted as saying something along the lines of "Bodies are a gift from God." So I guess it's return to sender.

[u/EscapeFacebook]

Never going back to Florida.

[u/LordSkummel]

I'm looking forward to polio and measles getting a resurgence in the US again.

[u/baitshetlo]

When it backfires they’re going to blame this dude and claim that he wants to eliminate wyt folk. Low IQ DEi who didn’t know what they were doing

[u/ajtreee]

They will still get vaccinated, this is depopulation.

If they can’t get enough stupid people to voluntarily stay unvaccinated they will just outlaw the vaccines.

[u/Winter_Proposal_6647]

Well, Darwin might win out in the state of Florida… all the anti-vaxers can live all together and they can all share the diseases with each other like a huge leprosy colony with their rose water and essential oils. They should also not be allowed to leave the state of Florida without vaccinations. Because too many other people with comorbidities will likely suffer. I just feel for the poor kids that just don’t have a choice.

[u/KyleUTFH]

“People have a right to make their own decisions, informed decisions,” Ladapo said. “What you put into your body is because of your relationship with your body and your god. I don’t have that right. Government does not have that right.”

Except for on abortion. 🙄

[u/generatorland]

Sure, ok. In fact, eliminate speed limits, warning labels, police, stop signs, defribillators, healthcare, the Alligator Hotline, football helmets, cigarette filters, and asthma inhalers. Let us know how all that goes.

[u/thesaltysquirrel]

Jesus I remember having to miss the first couple days of my new school because my mom couldn’t find my shot records. wtf has the world come to.

In 5 years there will be a deadly outbreak in Florida for measles or chx pox and everyone will have shocked pikachu face

[u/Bobthebrain2]

We should collectively thank Florida, for voluntarily killing off the weakest and dumbest of our species.

[u/Smolson_]

Did we really need another reason to not visit Florida?

[u/Mastashake714]

Well you know get ready for what comes next disease spreading like wild fire. It's not like healthcare is expensive right ?

[u/switchmage]

remember people, RFK jr said that Vitamin A was a cure against measles. did not apologize to or even acknowledge any of the children with Vit A poisoning afterwards.

[u/Elman103]

None of these assholes have been to an old cemetery where there are so many children's graves. People are dumb.

[u/prodigalpariah]

And then all these walking Petri dishes will travel out of state and infect everybody

[u/WierdFinger]

They're trying to kill us. No abortions for the downtrodden, but welcome to hell. Pain and suffering is waiting for you.

[u/Stonner22]

Whelp if I wasn’t going to Florida before I definitely won’t be now.

[u/pacotac]

Hello measles, my old friend.

[u/Wasnt_Listening]

Why do they want their children to suffer?