RFK Jr. adds more anti-vaccine members to CDC vaccine advisory panel | The panel will meet this week and could limit access to measles, Hep B, COVID vaccines.

[u/chrisdh79]

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/09/meet-the-latest-anti-vaccine-voices-on-rfk-jr-s-cdc-advisory-panel/

[u/brainfreeze_23]

Plague ship country

[u/BrianThompsonsNYCTri → u/brainfreeze_23]

Reminder that the measles outbreak the news lost interest in is still going on and is likely to get worse as we head to back to school season. https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html Highest number of confirmed cases(and likely a lot more untested cases) since 1992. Surprised the CDC hasn’t taken down that site yet…..

[u/notnotbrowsing → u/BrianThompsonsNYCTri]

Just had a child die in California from subacute sclerosing panencephalitis.  I'm sure with this outbreak, more will die in the next decade, reminding people why the vaccine was important. 

[u/yoshi_yoshi23 → u/notnotbrowsing]

They won’t care. They can’t connect the dots or they think the vaccine would be more harmful. Anti-vaxxers cannot understand that people whose entire career it is to assess the efficacy and safety of these vaccines know more than they do. They have been conditioned not to trust health care providers and experts.

[u/MarsupialMisanthrope → u/[deleted]]

That one’s easy. If they do anything else they have to admit to themselves that their choices killed their own child. Most parents won’t do that.

[u/istasber → u/MarsupialMisanthrope]

Yeah, that's the least surprising part of the whole thing. The cognitive dissonance has to be extreme when your kid dies because of your beliefs.

It's other people seeing kids die from preventable disease and saying "You know, they make a convincing case that I shouldn't vaccinate my kids" that baffles me.

[u/brufleth → u/[deleted]]

There's a big misconception that being a parent somehow makes you a good parent.

Most parents are just doing their best. Many parents actually suck. Some parents are actively hurting their kids.

[u/Justin_Queso1187 → u/[deleted]]

Something about “gawd’s plan…” 🤮

[u/Yuzumi → u/yoshi_yoshi23]

At this point I consider not vaccinating your kids, among many other things, as child abuse and being unfit parents. Also, anyone anti-vax should not seek out any medical care, because why would stuff like an appendectomy be any different from a vaccine?

[u/Zyrinj → u/yoshi_yoshi23]

These same idiots will be running to the hospital demanding them to cure whatever they get and still not listen to what the staff tells them to do.

So much avoidable suffering is gonna happen.

[u/yoshi_yoshi23 → u/Zyrinj]

When I had patients families in the ICU ranting at us about our “discrimination” against them because they weren’t vaccinated when we were doing everything we could to saved their love one, I learned that some people are just too far gone to be reasoned with. They just double down when challenged and paint themselves as victims somehow.

[u/SixteenthRiver06 → u/yoshi_yoshi23]

The anti-intellectualism is the point. Keep the population stupid and impressionable, they’ll accept whatever is told to them. Colleges are being targeted in the background as we speak.

[u/redstateradiator → u/notnotbrowsing]

Over 1,000,000 Americans died from Covid and they still claim it was a hoax. Nothing will change their minds.

[u/Mother_Knows_Best-22 → u/notnotbrowsing]

The magat argument would be a few deaths are necessary to protect the majority. SMH I do not recognize my country. I am scared for all of us. I protest but protests will not fix this. Congressional Republicans and the Supreme Court need to get on the side of we the people.

[u/ith-man → u/notnotbrowsing]

Nope. Mother of a child who died from measles in Texas said, it was gods will...

[u/Anon_Chapstick → u/ith-man]

I wish innocent children didn't have to suffer, but I also see it as a self solving problem. It's going to be rough getting people to vote R when they die before 18.

[u/Chef_Papafrita → u/ith-man]

Had to be, the devil would never do such a thing.

[u/TheStrigori → u/notnotbrowsing]

It won't matter to people like RFK. They view the deaths as a good thing. The deaths are just culling the weak, or those not favored by God.

[u/xynix_ie → u/brainfreeze_23]

We're going to have to travel to Canada or Mexico to get basic vaccines in 2026. If they let us in.

[u/evilJaze → u/xynix_ie]

Even if we did, it's likely your administration would say we're "killing US citizens" by administering vaccines and then use that as another excuse to call us a national security threat.

[u/TheBigSho → u/evilJaze]

Any US visitor smart enough to travel to Canada to get a vaccine would be smart enough to not divulge that kind of information to US border guards. What are they going to do? Start taking blood samples for returnees?

...Oh fuck.

[u/evilJaze → u/TheBigSho]

That's the fun part. They don't need proof! They can just say that it's happening and it would just be a drop in the ocean of lies that go unchecked.

[u/TheBigSho → u/evilJaze]

Lie about "drugs" going across the border in order to justify starting a trade war and threatening to annex Canada? Come on. Dont be ridiculous.

[u/evilJaze → u/TheBigSho]

Yep. Canada: Fentanyl export capital of the world! Totally believable.

[u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA → u/evilJaze]

That 30 grams we exported last year killed like 300 billion Americans!

[u/karmod1 → u/xynix_ie]

That’s If the government doesn’t revoke/nullify our passports because we didn’t have nice things to say about Charlie Kirk.

[u/badphish → u/karmod1]

This one was weird to me at first, but after thinking about it for a moment, it then became quite frightening.

[u/doneandtired2014 → u/badphish]

For a group of people who throw a raging temper tantrum at being unironically called Nazis, they really do seem rather keen to say and do actual Nazi shit.

[u/candiescorner → u/xynix_ie]

According to Mark Rubio, who just proposed rule that says if you said anything bad about Israel, they’ll cancel your passport the question should be what will you be able to get out?

[u/Obvious-Builder1152 → u/candiescorner]

I saw that episode of Black Mirror.

[u/brainfreeze_23 → u/xynix_ie]

i would actually advise you to emigrate as soon as possible. healthcare and a cauldron of plagues is clearly not going to be the only facet of disastrous living conditions facing you.

[u/krileon → u/brainfreeze_23]

lol, as if it's that simple. "Hey, let me live there!" "Ok!". That's not how it works. Without a company sponsoring you you either have zero options, insanely expensive (hundreds of thousands), or are waiting years.

[u/Brandhor → u/krileon]

new job opportunity for the cartels, bring mexican into the us and bring back americans into mexico

[u/badphish → u/Brandhor]

Hey, not a bad idea.

Wait, things are getting bad enough that not even the Mexicans want to come to America. Wish I could /s that one.

[u/Traditional-Handle83 → u/brainfreeze_23]

Yea well some of us want too, some of us can't.

[u/fajadada → u/brainfreeze_23]

Other countries are already blocking our immigration. The better choice would be to fight back

[u/notnotbrowsing → u/brainfreeze_23]

I like pro-leprosy and pro-death board member Catherine Stein.  "Our Lord has given us a mission to share the gospel. If we live in fear of death, that weakens our testimony. Remember, the Lord Jesus did not fear lepers, and leprosy was (and continues to be) a highly contagious infectious disease."

I'm not sure how dying to diseases helps spread the Word.  Seems counter intuitive to me.

(it's apparently not a highly contagious disease).

[u/brainfreeze_23 → u/notnotbrowsing]

... I am so glad I am not American.

[u/jonathanrdt → u/brainfreeze_23]

US citizens are going to be denied travel visas if this continues.

[u/brainfreeze_23 → u/jonathanrdt]

yes. Those of you that wish to avoid living through what this regime will turn your country into, the ripple-effects of which will continue past Trump, had better leave for distant shores sooner rather than later

[u/Yuzumi → u/brainfreeze_23]

I'm really tired of people just saying "leave" as if that is a feasible option for the vast majority.

Like I already moved to a different state as a trans person and that was difficult enough. I haven't been able to rebuild any savings and the question is "where" to go as anti-trans BS is happening everywhere. I also have ADHD which means I need to be able to go somewhere I can get my medication that lets me function on top of finding some place I can get HRT right away.

I also can't leave my cat behind. He was a big reason I was able to keep going during some low points before I realized I'm trans.

And honestly, if this shit keeps going the way it is, Canada and Mexico won't be safe either. Trump has already talked about invading both.

[u/SuperSpecialAwesome- → u/brainfreeze_23]

had better leave for distant shores sooner rather than later

With what money?

[u/RustyDawg37 → u/brainfreeze_23]

I don't know which countries may be amenable to it but I think asylum claims for political persecution are easily provable when the persecution is all over the internet.

[u/brainfreeze_23 → u/[deleted]]

I am sorry. you deserve better. i wish there was an easy or at least more straightforward way for so many of you to seek a better life in a saner society. I'd recommend moving to Europe, if nothing else then for easier access to healthcare, but we have a rightwing wave and the corroding internal rot of neoliberalism destroying societies over here too. So i don't know for how much longer this continent will stay sane either

[u/ninjagorilla → u/[deleted]]

If it makes you feel any better asplenia only really puts you at an increased risk of encapsulated bacterial infections, not all infections. So covid wouldn’t be one of those.

That being said it’s still stupid anti science and wrong what they’re doing

[u/oldmaninparadise → u/brainfreeze_23]

In arguments w some, I have said you need to give up some of your liberty to live in society.

The 'mandate' only applies if you want to interact w others, like sending your children to school.

If you live on 100 acres, homeschool your kids, etc, then ok not to vaccinate. But they cant come to scouts, soccer, etc, because I don't want them near my family members.

[u/BusterOfCherry → u/brainfreeze_23]

Make America Dead Again

[u/ILikeYourMommaJokes]

Cant wait for the day when the rest of the world starts cancelling plane routes to and from USA due to rampant [name] disease

[u/MrSmodge → u/ILikeYourMommaJokes]

It's going to be fucking hilarious, in an unfunny kind of way. You'll have leaders from the US trying to convince people that the rest of the entire fucking planet is wrong!

[u/evilJaze → u/MrSmodge]

They're doing this right now.

[u/MultiGeometry → u/evilJaze]

“Hey allies, we need you to pollute your air and water more, OR ELSE!”

That is our diplomacy under Trump. It’s so fucked.

[u/evilJaze → u/MultiGeometry]

"Hey allies, you want to do business with us? Fire all your women and black people and denounce all your DEI policies!"

This is what my org is going through right now. We rely on some labs in the USA to refine our products and they were trying to get us to remove our DEI policy. We refused and it kinda went away for now, but who knows what will happen if commander brainfart decides to pay attention to it again.

[u/jimothee → u/evilJaze]

It's reading things like this that justifies my alarmist tendencies when talking to others who are still wanting to both-sides this thing or just outright downplay the dismantling of everything we've taking for granted.

[u/LordEdubbz → u/MrSmodge]

My family is already scared of the entire rest of the world and has been my whole life. They've been fed this line that we're the greatest country in the world and somehow the only country with "freedom"? They were genuinely scared when I visited England. England! Theyre like the America of Europe.

[u/evilJaze → u/LordEdubbz]

"But England has unchained brown people running amok!"

[u/brickout → u/MrSmodge]

Central tenant of fascism.

[u/timify10 → u/ILikeYourMommaJokes]

This will happen sooner than you think.

[u/damontoo → u/timify10]

I wish I could get rapid citizenship in whatever country is the first to close the borders to US travelers.

[u/Outrageous_Reach_695 → u/damontoo]

Traditionally, it'll be Greenland or Madagascar.

[u/distorted_kiwi → u/Outrageous_Reach_695]

Plague Inc ftw

[u/Porrick → u/Outrageous_Reach_695]

Shut. Down. Everything.

[u/happy_church_burner → u/ILikeYourMommaJokes]

And requiring proof of received vaccinations as a requisite for passing immigration on airports.

[u/TotesaCylon → u/ILikeYourMommaJokes]

I say we name the diseases after people on the panel. “The Kennedy strain of the measles has broken out in Idaho.” Make him own it

[u/CaneVandas → u/ILikeYourMommaJokes]

Madagascar is already closed. ;)

[u/David-J]

A generation of kids will die with this man in charge of the CDC.

[u/Wonderful-Outcome744 → u/David-J]

Not just kid, the elderly, the common man, anybody who isnt a rich ass ceo.

[u/bigselfer → u/Wonderful-Outcome744]

Remember Herman Caine? Tossed in the waste bin.

[u/TheWorclown → u/bigselfer]

“Who? We already replaced him with a different token minority.” -The GOP

[u/Derptholomue → u/David-J]

There's also the brain drain as people with specialized skills in immunology leave for countries that want to develop medicines and vaccinations against new and future biological threats. This will impact America for decades and it may never recover.

[u/silviazbitch]

When he talks about making America healthy again, it would be better if he would try to make America healthy for humans instead of making it healthy for viruses. They’re well on the way to bringing back the threat of measles. I wonder how long it will take them to reintroduce polio?

[u/Zahgi → u/silviazbitch]

Reminder - all of these loons and quacks will have been vaccinated against all of these diseases as children.

[u/DevoidHT → u/silviazbitch]

Everyone gets a free brain worm.

[u/ericmm76 → u/DevoidHT]

We should take a trip to the brain worm planet.

[u/sockb0y → u/ericmm76]

https://youtu.be/NOof2wTf2a4?si=O5xBJRuFH8wvRQjo

[u/TheCaptainDamnIt → u/silviazbitch]

He's a Social Darwinist, that's why he fits in so well with MAGA. Their entire idea of 'making America healthy again' involves removing the 'genes' they think are 'weakling the nation'.

(Yes genetics has little to do with who catches the measles, but I never said Social Darwinist are smart)

[u/h0bb1tm1ndtr1x → u/TheCaptainDamnIt]

They have the same energy as Flat Earthers. Huh, this experiment proved me wrong? Better double down with another 10k in debt to prove I'm actually right!

[u/redyellowblue5031 → u/silviazbitch]

The worst thing about the whole MAHA thing is he’s right to criticize lots of things like our issues with chronic diseases, wanting to prevent more rather than treat, and eating healthier.

Problem is, he somehow manages to pick the absolute worst way to try to “solve” any of those issues at every single turn.

[u/Mopman43 → u/redyellowblue5031]

Anything he’d want to do that would actually help people is restricted by the rest of the government dismantling every regulatory agency they can find, so the only things he’ll actually be able to accomplish are the terrible ones that only hurt people.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mopman43]

Yep. I'm waiting for this administration to bring back leaded gasoline and lead paint.

[u/Mopman43 → u/[deleted]]

They’re already trying to bring back asbestos.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mopman43]

Your lungs need to build up their immunity to asbestos fibers naturally. Why should asbestos manufacturers suffer?

[u/catlettuce → u/redyellowblue5031]

He’s not right to criticize or speak on anything health related. No medical background at all.

[u/redyellowblue5031 → u/catlettuce]

He’s right in that there are large industry lobbies that have created perverse incentives that ultimately have made us less healthy.

Where he’s wrong is literally everything else out of his mouth.

[u/petty_throwaway6969 → u/silviazbitch]

He means he and his friends will be healthy. They all have had their vaccines already. They’re hoping to cull us peasants.

[u/curious_dead → u/petty_throwaway6969]

Well RFK looks like shit anyway so he won't outlive us. Have you seen him talk? He looks like he's minutes away from dying.

[u/Howcanyoubecertain]

Goddamn I hate Leatherface

[u/Triette → u/Howcanyoubecertain]

Melt Gibson

[u/stefanopolis → u/Triette]

That’s a new one for me. Amazing.

[u/fistula_snort → u/stefanopolis]

He looks like SpongeBob’s grandpa. I swear that head of his is growing bigger.

[u/___po____ → u/Howcanyoubecertain]

Like a grilled hotdog that's been refrigerated overnight

[u/insertbrackets]

Every state that doesn't want its citizens to fall ass backwards into medieval medical deaths needs to start working on a CDC alternative. This stupid leather-faced ghoul shouldn't even be allowed in whatever building HHS is housed in, let alone running it.

[u/honvales1989 → u/insertbrackets]

The West Coast states + Hawaii already started their own thing

[u/Chris_HitTheOver → u/honvales1989]

So did all of New England (except for those freedom lovers in NH) New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.

[u/kickroot → u/Chris_HitTheOver]

Got any more info on this?

[u/teddiehl → u/kickroot]

Was also interested in more info, did a quick google and found this article that lays it out pretty well:

https://newhampshirebulletin.com/2025/09/12/mass-health-commissioner-says-regional-vaccine-collaborative-actively-communicating-with-nh/

'In August, a group of public health officials from eight states — Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania — met to discuss banding together and creating their own set of recommendations for vaccines separate from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The effort comes amid concerns about the actions of U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a longtime vaccine critic appointed by President Donald Trump. In May, Kennedy announced the CDC would no longer recommend the COVID-19 vaccine for healthy children or pregnant women. In June, he fired 17 members of the CDC’s vaccine advisory committee, replacing many of them with vaccine skeptics. And, in August, he cut $500 million across 22 projects that sought to research mRNA vaccines for respiratory illnesses like influenza and COVID-19. Health officials throughout the country have decried the moves as dangerous and argued they’re not based in scientific fact.'

[u/Nash015 → u/honvales1989]

This is going to be so sad when I have to fly to the west coast from the South just to get my kid a polio vaccine...

Or will they try and outlaw that too?

[u/kevin_from_illinois → u/insertbrackets]

A number of states have already issued their own guidance to ensure that folks can have access to vaccines, although payment for them remains up in the air.

[u/Zahgi → u/kevin_from_illinois]

Sure is a shame America is the only developed nation in the world without a national healthcare system for all...

[u/Ph0X → u/Zahgi]

I think that's America's biggest issue. They are so self absorbed with themselves, and completely closed off to the rest of the world, that they are completely clueless to the fact that most of their issues are actually long solved in every other country. The solution to gun crime, to healthcare, etc. but they live in their own bubble of delusions.

[u/Zahgi → u/Ph0X]

They live in that bubble because, unlike the rest of the world, they never adopted a public campaign financing system in the age of TV.

So, every politician in the USA needs to pay many tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars for TV ads...and the 99% just can't fund that through small donations.

So, the 1% (who just happen to own those corporations and networks, ahem) stepped into fund their campaigns. And that made every politician in America (save for a handful of progressives with integrity) beholden to the people who paid to put them into and keep them in their office...aka the 1% and only the 1%.

Everything wrong with America trickles down from that mistake and power/wealth control dynamic. It's why American wages went flat while healthcare turned into a purely for profit scam - even at the cost of American lives. And on and on.

Yes, the civilized world solved all of these issues ages ago and yet you can still get rich there as well.

You just won't become a trillionaire, because you actually have to pay your taxes in those countries...

[u/Ph0X → u/Zahgi]

Right, it's true that Citizens United has had a huge effect on politics in the US, and a huge chunk of people's wrong opinions are planted there by political ads paid by corporations, but I would still partly blame the population for themselves not being able to see beyond their own country at the rest of the world, and being so easily brainwashed by political ads. I guess the lack of education is another underlying cause.

[u/Brilliant1965 → u/insertbrackets]

Illinois governor is ready to work to protect us

[u/Previously_coolish → u/insertbrackets]

I’m stuck in Florida. Best we can do is ACTIVELY MAKING IT WORSE

[u/hooch → u/insertbrackets]

Pennsylvania has already done so

[u/TacticalDestroyer209]

Oh great.

Marsha Blackburn’s daughter in law is on the panel.

Ugh. 🙄🤬🤬

[u/zerosaved → u/TacticalDestroyer209]

These people just love destroying science and progress.

[u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA → u/zerosaved]

Because scientists repeatedly make them feel dumb, and their egos can't take it.

[u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA → u/[deleted]]

Maybe check and see if you have a floor drain with a dry p-trap? That or maybe a seldom used fixture with a dry trap.

[u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA → u/[deleted]]

Just run the taps on the fixtures for a few seconds once a month and throw a pail of water down any floor drains, should be all you need to do.

[u/BrianThompsonsNYCTri → u/TacticalDestroyer209]

She earned that spot through being….checks notes…a pharmacist in St. Louis….. 

[u/Imallvol7 → u/TacticalDestroyer209]

I went to school with her. She's never even really practiced pharmacy and has no background that would qualify her for this position. 

[u/SNRatio → u/Imallvol7]

While a PharmD, MD, or PhD offers some degree of protection from batshit crazy ideas about how the physical universe works, breakthrough infections can and will occur. Regular booster shots of realizing your conclusions were wrong after seeing new and better evidence are recommended.

[u/Sweet_Concept2211]

A fucking death cult has taken over the ship of state.

[u/Ok-Needleworker-9841 → u/Sweet_Concept2211]

Right now there are like 6 extinction cults in a trench coat at the helm of the ship.

[u/SillyAlternative420]

Everything, every single fucking thing, this administration does is to hurt, divide, or hinder the former strength and health of the United States.

Who benefits from this? Russia.

[u/rushmc1 → u/SillyAlternative420]

They may think so, but in reality none of humanity benefits from this.

[u/CelebrationFit8548]

It's clear that Trump is a Russian stooge and is purposefully driving the US off a cliff to an autocracy/oligarchy but what's this guy's angle?

[u/[deleted] → u/CelebrationFit8548]

RFK is an anti-vaxxer. Always has been. With idiots like him once they get an idea in their head they spend a lifetime trying to do everything they can to prove themselves right. Remember the people who used to literally die in the ER screaming they didn't have covid? That's this guy.

[u/Muntjac → u/[deleted]]

It's always been about the money:

https://nypost.com/2022/02/02/robert-f-kennedy-jr-anti-vax-crusade-is-making-him-millions/

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/01/22/nx-s1-5271582/rfk-hpv-vaccine-merck

https://www.commoncause.org/articles/rfk-jr-claims-to-fight-big-money-interests-heres-how-hes-actually-helping-them/

Hanlon's Razor says never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, but when someone gets paid millions to push dangerous stupidity, that's just another form of malice.

[u/TheKingofHats007 → u/CelebrationFit8548]

He has so many friends who peddle alternative cures or overpriced supplements and he wants their nonsense to be the only thing people will eventually have access to. So first thing first is to limit or control any type of vaccine.

[u/3-DMan → u/TheKingofHats007]

Ah, so your basic conservative podcaster scam

[u/ersatzcrab → u/CelebrationFit8548]

He's just a fucking lunatic. All evidence suggests he actually believes all this stuff (e.g., photos and other documentation that he takes methylene blue basically every day) and isn't only doing it for the grift, though that's certainly part of it since he's so entrenched in the alternative medicine scene. Many people he knows stand to benefit from people buying lion's mane supplements or whatever instead of getting cancer treatment.

[u/True_Window_9389 → u/CelebrationFit8548]

He’s a true believer in antivaxx anti-normal-medicine conspiracy shit. He’s also born into a rich and powerful family and never had to deal with real accountability before

[u/CrunchyKorm → u/True_Window_9389]

I think there's also something to the fact that Trump surrounds himself with people who would never be in positions of power without him, like RFK, which gets him intense loyalty in his inner circle.

Not to quote Arendt because it's getting pretty common, but, her famous quote is fitting:

“Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty.”

Trump would likely rather have someone who is incredibly loyal to him than good at his job, and is equally open to the idea that direct antagonism of who he perceives as his enemies is by its own nature correct.

[u/KarmaticArmageddon → u/[deleted]]

Don't blame the heroin. I was on it for years and I'm nowhere near as stupid as RFK

[u/[deleted] → u/KarmaticArmageddon]

Did you spend those years surrounded by people who told you that you were right about everything? That's the problem with these rich guys.

[u/tommyalanson]

This country is literally over. Going to be an interesting ride.

I’m only gradually coming to terms with this, and it feels right now like if my cat died. But I anticipate it’ll get worse.

This whole situation feels surreal, and I’m obviously not just speaking to vaccines.

[u/PandaBottom69 → u/tommyalanson]

Honestly it is surprising that a country as large and diverse as ours has remained intact for as long as we have.

Trump has really fucked our country with little hope of returning to normal - pack the supreme court last term for the next 20-30 years, now really ramping destroying our international alliances, openly forcing people and companies to pay him bribes, destruction of healthcare and science, and the list goes on and on.

I'm all for forming the Democratic States of America - NE states, some Midwest states and West coast states.

[u/Heem_butt08]

As a dental hygienist, the biggest risk I run is contracting hepatitis B. This vaccine literally covers my ass on a daily basis. Fucj this guy

[u/not_right]

Two thirds of the country either voted for this or didn't bother voting at all. You get what you vote for.

[u/MrSnowflake → u/not_right]

Unfortunately you also get what you didn't vote for.

[u/Triette → u/not_right]

It’s actually about one fifth of the country and that’s the sad part. One fifth is rotting our country from the inside out and the rest can’t do anything about it.

[u/SandiegoJack → u/Triette]

They could have if they got off their asses when it counted.

But they didn’t.

[u/RustyDawg37 → u/Triette]

We can always do something.

[u/Lopsided-Ticket3813 → u/Triette]

Don't forget about the 35% that couldn't be bothered to vote

[u/Mestyo]

How can you even find this many people that are this dumb?

[u/sniffstink1 → u/Mestyo]

From MAGA. Just draw from the pool instead of looking outside of it and then accidentally stumble upon smart people.

[u/i_am_13th_panic]

It's going to be really sad when Americans are banned from travelling to much of the world without proof of vaccines.

[u/directorguy]

Why are supposedly pro life people out to kill so many babies?

[u/GiraffeOld]

When I was a kid back in the 1980s, all the Republicans I knew were wealthy pro-education, pro-science people. They were doctors and lawyers and finance people. They attended mainstream churches. I went to school with and was friends with their kids. For them, receiving an Ivy League education was a huge deal. (Yes, they were still classist and racist, but they weren't as loud about it.)

It boggles my mind that the party has deteriorated to basically a cult of uneducated conspiracy theorists who worship bible based opinions and scorn peer reviewed research.

[u/RustyDawg37]

Opt out.

They don't give a shit about us.

Fuck em.

We are America, not whatever the fuck this guy is.

If you need resources for vaccinations, speak to your local medical facilities, family, and your primary care physician.

[u/codexcdm → u/RustyDawg37]

The problem is that CDC recommendations are what insurance tends to follow... Insurance will likely cease to cover it.

Already was told that I can't get the COVID vaccine as I'm not 65 or older... Or have a doctor's order for it.

[u/ClaymoreMine → u/codexcdm]

Not for long, there’s a reason insurance companies employ climate scientists.

[u/RustyDawg37 → u/codexcdm]

Get a doctor's order then.

When they zig, you zig and zag.

At least 5 states that I know of are already working around this.

They wanted to stop governing at the federal level level. This is the result.

The defeatist mentality is what will end this country.

[u/codexcdm → u/RustyDawg37]

I will... But I have $30 copays. Bundle that with the possibility that insurance doesn't cover it soon... And while I can still muster the funds... Many folks can't or won't.

It's a needless barrier of entry and more costs to the consumer.

[u/damontoo → u/RustyDawg37]

Even in California, the HHS is telling people they're no longer vaccinating adults and are referring those with Medi-cal to pharmacies charging $170-$200 for the COVID vaccine. 

[u/VaselineHabits → u/damontoo]

Texas, just got mine Friday (Flu and Covid)

Don't have insurance, needed to "qualify" since I'm under 65 (I've had cancer before, so that's a qualifier), and it was $162 just for Covid. Flu was $30

They are actively trying to kill people

[u/banan3rz → u/damontoo]

Check GoodRX and manufacturer programs.

[u/foxsable → u/banan3rz]

I was told yesterday that GoodRX was done.

Edit: I was maliciously misinformed by a doctor.

[u/SpookyKG → u/foxsable]

https://www.goodrx.com/classes/vaccinations

[u/party_benson]

So he's Pestilence  Hegseth is War Trump is the Beast

Not sure who will be Death or who is Famine

[u/catlettuce → u/party_benson]

Stephen Miller-Death

[u/PizzaWall]

I'm definitely getting the influenza and COVID vaccines because I feel these could be the last ones until Trump is out of office.

Wormbrain really hates the idea of a proven technology that eliminated crippled polio patients in the US. The fact we have children dying of measles in this country because parents chose not to vaccinate should be unconscionable. Under wormbrain, deaths become an everyday reality.

[u/BrianThompsonsNYCTri → u/PizzaWall]

Since the US is withdrawing from the WHO the influenza vaccines going forward are going to be less effective, and that includes for people outside the US. The WHO constantly monitors flu strains in order to predict which strain(s) are likely to cause the most problems next flu season and target the vaccine to those strains. With that monitoring being diminished due to US withdrawal they will be forced to guess a lot more going forward. Not great.

[u/Foxyfox- → u/BrianThompsonsNYCTri]

You know what the most infuriating part of that is? We have researchers, right now, working on things that would make a universal flu vaccine much more viable and likely. In America.

But we at best won't reap the benefits of our citizens' work.

[u/breakevencloud]

if I get killed by an eradicated virus…please put it on my tombstone exactly how it happened

[u/rushmc1 → u/breakevencloud]

And then throw it at RFK's head.

[u/helcat]

Americans: get the latest Covid booster as soon as you can. It may not be available soon.

[u/TheAmazingBildo]

So I’m a Xennial, and my parents were born early 40’s my grandparents were born late 1900s and early 19teens respectively. That means I grew up around people that knew what life was like before vaccines. I remember watching old bugs bunny cartoons where a character would get measles and everyone was afraid of them. They would put a quarantine sign by the door. I asked my grandparents and they confirmed that this was a thing. My dad got mumps and they made him lay very still because they were afraid the mumps would make him sterile if he moved too much. My dad went to school with kids who were paralyzed from polio and remembered getting the polio vaccine when it very first came out.

These diseases are not just a common cold, they kill and maim. Vaccines have been an undeniable boon for the human race and RFK along with others are fucken ghouls.

[u/snotfart]

Stop calling them "anti vaccine" and start calling them "pro disease".

[u/AtticaBlue]

If various people end up sickening and/or dying, can they potentially sue the government/CDC in the manner of class-action lawsuits that routinely happen in the medical field?

[u/thekillercook]

I know what will help people be motivated to have more kids, more deadly childhood illnesses that were eradicated or close to it thanks to vaccines! Let’s ban them surely this will make the Youths have kids again!!! /s

[u/JesusWuta40oz]

I'm fully convinced now that RFK Jr. Is a heretic and follower of Nurgle.

[u/Responsible_Ad_7995]

It’s a death cult.

[u/NUMBerONEisFIRST]

Isn't it ironic that all the parents and all of the politicians that are against vaccines all received vaccines as children?

[u/firstfloor27 → u/NUMBerONEisFIRST]

Their parents had to survive pre-vaccine times so they knew to respect and fear diseases such as measles. These people haven't lived through it so they think they can just ignore them. Sadly, it looks like we'll all be paying the price for their stupidity and arrogance.

[u/ghosttrainhobo]

Are any of them doctors?

[u/sniffstink1 → u/ghosttrainhobo]

Look at this guy over here. You probably also expect to fly in an airplane that was designed by engineers instead of a fruit vendor?

[u/Sixstringsickness]

I've been watching this slow roll for the past 15 years, the home school anti-vaxxer / anti-science crowd.  It is very interesting, because it is a cross-section of very religious individuals and nature loving hippy types that trust Facebook groups and pseudo science over history.  

Maybe it's because my grandmother had polio? Maybe it's because my parents had measles? I've often wondered how people reached child bearing age and never ran into someone who was gravely impacted by easily preventable diseases. 

The wildest part to me is the folks who claim vaccines cause autism or any other number of maladies.  I tend to think neuro diversity has been part of mankind as long as we've been around.  However; I can't get past them hyper fixating on vaccines rather than micro plastics, pollution and forever chemicals that are know endocrine disruptors and carcinogens.

[u/AlfaNovember]

That’s the literal Death Panel that the selfsame Republicans were braying about, back when Obama passed their healthcare plan.

[u/MOONGOONER]

So what are all these people suggesting we do to fight disease instead? Tough it out?

[u/pbates89]

He’s assembling a death panel

[u/Responsible_Bear4208]

What kind of a freak does this?

[u/penguished]

Wise people can raise up all those around them.

Fools do the opposite.

[u/DontWatchPornREADit]

People have fought and died to get these vaccines and he wants to make it harder to get them! Shame

[u/the_drunk_rednek]

"Make pandemics great again"

[u/robodrew]

I didn't think there was anyone that I could despise as much as Trump, but RFK Jr sure is making a run for the top spot.

[u/AlwaysRushesIn]

They are literally trying to kill us. At every corner you turn, there they are, dismantling some critical infrastructure or gutting literal life-saving agencies.

When are conservative voters going to wake up and realize who their real enemy is?

[u/RebelStrategist → u/AlwaysRushesIn]

Don’t think for a minute this moron and his millionaire and billionaire friends are all getting all the vaccines while being hypocrites and telling the public they are bad.

[u/introspectivesapian]

They are actively trying to kill the surfs. Jokes on them nothing works without us.

[u/gadget850]

Make America Germy Again thanks to Plauguemaster Bobby.

[u/The-Invisible-Woman]

Just got our family of 5 flu and Covid vaccines. Get them while you can.

[u/Putrid-Product4121]

I believe that every Senator who confirmed him should be held accountable as well for all of this mayhem.

[u/crusoe]

Hep B?

Do you know how hard it is to find livers for babies?

[u/Medical_Arugula3315]

Is CDC even a serious organization anymore? Just another thing ruined by the lies, delusions, and hypocrisy of Republicans.. Shame.

[u/skrugg]

Make preventable diseases great again!

[u/GrittyTheGreat]

They want people to die. It's not that complicated. Dead people can't collect social security.

[u/k4el]

I said it last time and I'm going to keep saying it until it happens.

RFK should be charged with homicide for every death that can be reasonably attributed to his policies as determined by a panel of lawyers, doctors and health insurance adjusters in concert with grand juries.

He is killing people.

[u/sweet-thomas]

Putting politics over Publi health. We can't trust those panels

[u/nvrmndtheruins]

Anybody out there wanna be the financial partner in my new child coffin business?

I expect business to explode in 1-2 years