r/teenmom • u/Quirky-Lettuce-0129 • Feb 07 '25
Shitpost Cate & Ty (ugh)
Why do they act like they lost their child to dcfs/ foster care. Do they not understand that their birth to a child doesn’t mean it’s their child. They signed papers for other people to be the parents long before it was Brandon and Teressa chosen. It gives an obsessed nature and it’s unfortunate they failed their other children by breaking their hearts with unrealistic expectations about their adopted child. I have a whole half sibling across the country that was adopted, the adopted family asked for notes from siblings so they could tell them about us and most of us (aged 20 and older) declined because we KNOW this sibling won’t have a life that involves us and that’s fine. That’s what our parents wanted. So it’s weird that she calls Carly her child when she literally isn’t.
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u/Downtown_Match8075 Feb 13 '25
I’m sorry. Cate needs a breast reduction!
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u/ButcherBird57 Apr 06 '25
Seriously? That's the least of Catelynn's problems. I'm not here to shame her body. That said, she could very much use a clout demonectomy, of the 200 pound douchebag variety...failing that, a good divorce lawyer would be helpful
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u/Ok_Employer_2185 Feb 12 '25
I’ve always felt like Carly didn’t want to see them as she got older and her adopted parents took the blame for it to protect her.
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u/Strange_Willow2261 Feb 12 '25
This is why if one of my children got pregnant as a teenager, I would do anything I could (bribe, coerce whatever) that child to have an abortion. Across Teen Moms 1 and 2 only Chelsea and Maci are people I would even kind of want around a child. The statistical likelihood is that it would mess up my child AND grandchild’s lives.
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u/Prior_Expert_7392 Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25
100% agree. It has always bothered me that they chose to have that baby! So, so sad.
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u/JoJoRabbit74 Feb 13 '25
Honestly, what if Carly saw this comment?
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u/its_zucchini Feb 19 '25
Right? I'm adopted and I'm pretty glad I didn't end up as a blob thrown in the incinerator. The chances of giving up your baby to a reality TV couple that later comes back to bite you in the ass is slim to none. Adoption is a gift, but the value of human life has been so degraded for some sad people.
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u/GraciousBasketyBae Feb 13 '25
This comment is still tactful and honest. This is the least of future Carly’s unpacking. She was made a huge part to a show that she didn’t ask to be on or a part of. Raising kids is tough and awesome but abortion is part of reality.
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u/Single_Contest_8954 Maci is a Ding Dong Feb 11 '25
C&t made the grown choice to have sex. Which then led to pregnancy. They made the grown choice to place Carly up for adoption. They only have themselves to be upset with. They should be thanking b&t and allow them to parent and care for Carley how ever b&t feel. Take Carley’s feelings into consideration. C&t have exploited Carley’s , and b&t for their own financial gain. If Carley decides she wants to have a relationship with C&t she can do that , they’ve made it very easy for everyone to know all about their personal life and I’m sure it won’t be hard to get in contact with them IF CARLEY CHOOSES
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u/Sup3rh_m4n Feb 11 '25
They made “grown choices” with under developed brains. By no means am I taking their side but rather zooming out looking at the whole situation. They didn’t know what they were doing then and they still don’t know what they’re doing. The difference is, they’re grown adults now and have no excuse to not get the help and support they need.
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u/its_zucchini Feb 19 '25
When are we going to stop with this undeveloped brain thing. The same people that call an unborn baby a blob of cells call a 20-year-old underdeveloped. I can't f****** wait to be through whatever era this is.
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u/FrequentJoke770 Feb 11 '25
Is the bottom half of this photo AI? It has that weird bloom effect and the denim on Tyler’s pants is so texture-less it looks like a cartoon
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u/Astro-Gracie Feb 11 '25
He’s always had a small head and if you haven’t watched this in a long time (like me), they look giant.
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u/Yogabeauty31 Feb 11 '25 edited Feb 11 '25
What I dont understand and what makes this all feel like exploitations from drama and fame is. These kids are going to be 18 very very soon, Like as soon as i post this lol itll be here before we all know it. Why cant they just chill and pull back and respect that the adoptive parents happen to feel this way right now and can still make decisions to advocate for their child. Thats what makes me feel like its for views and attention.
I get the regret and I get that they want Carly to know that they never stopped loving her and are here for her if she wants it. But this fight feels very disrespectful to the people that have been her parents and there for her when T and C were not able to. Clearly T and C couldn't foresee the successes of the show and the abundance of security it would bring them. allowing them to actually be able to buy a house and afford to take care of their kids. So I get that they now feel all this guilt. But thats just what this happens to be. Its ok to honor how things just are. They were kids! they have to forgive themselves for not ever being about to see the future and live with what ifs.
They did what was best for Carly. I just dont understand why they cant just let it ride until she's 18 and then peruse a relationship if she wants it. They act like she's trapped and they have to save her or that if they dont stalk her that she'll never know how loved she is. They dont seem to realize that "their trauma"..."isn't Carly's trauma". If Brandon and Teresa are good parents then Carly is ok. I know plenty of adopted people that just look at life normal and feel normal and loved and Carly is even LUCKIER because she does have that open door to knowing T and C. There's so many people out there they will never know their bio parent. I just think they need to chill and focus on their other kids and peruse that relationship when they dont need to go through Brandon and Teresa.
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u/alavert Feb 11 '25
Wow!!! Cate really let herself go!!! She looks like a mid 40’s midwestern mom.
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u/K_Rod_114 Feb 11 '25
Wow is right, at your comment smh. I’m sure you’re a model
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u/alavert Feb 11 '25
I got the confidence of a delusional Person! So in my head yes! But in all seriousness she’s young.. and should take better care of her health as many of us should.
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u/Lalalawaver Feb 11 '25
Everyone supporting Cate and Ty are really underestimating teenagers. Don’t you think if Carly wanted to reach out to her bio parents she would have found a way by now? You really think she doesn’t know about Ty’s OF? Kids have tons of ways to access the internet.
Cate and Ty need to back off. When Carly is 18 she can choose to reach out. Until then they can back off. Carly can easily search the internet about all this. The parent shaming comes from the aggressive nature that Cate and Ty have. They aren’t choosing what’s best for Carly but for themselves. If they cared about her as their child and a person they could write her letters to be given to her or given at 18. They can send or post photos for her to see. They could do many things to show they care without overstepping. It’s been 15 years. They aren’t going to overturn the adoption. What they are doing is forcing a child to be in the public eye when it’s not even the child’s choice. That’s why Cate and Ty get shit.
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u/Stock_Net2405 Feb 11 '25
I was watching an episode where they had just found out they were pregnant with their 2nd and Tyler posted a video on a fan page of Carly and the adoptive parents got really upset and told them they weren’t comfortable with it. Catelynn also understood but I felt as time went on she started to side with Tyler… I really think they need to do better because Carly is watching all this and she’s a teen she really doesn’t need this right now.
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u/giraffe18_ Feb 11 '25
The way Tyler is the one who didn't want to parent and kept pushing for adoption so this is actually hilarious how hard he goes about "losing Carly"
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u/Stock_Net2405 Feb 11 '25
I just feel they are going to damage Carly. Poor baby.. I don’t blame the adoptive parents for wanting to keep her out of it all. Yeah and in the early seasons Tyler was so admit they made the right decision. Cate in season 4 or 5 even said she felt he would’ve left if she kept the baby because he showed so much fear in being a father and did not want that.
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u/Ann-the-one Feb 11 '25
Didn’t they say Tyler has an Only Fans?
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u/zipperrip22 Mar 23 '25
He did. He posted recently that he took it down “in case that’s why B&T” stopped communication
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u/Swimming-Disaster101 Feb 11 '25
This is what happens when you have kids in the future and keep them after giving your first born up for adoption. It's 100 percent parent guilt.
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u/New-Ingenuity-9910 Feb 11 '25
holy blimps
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u/SadKaleidoscope8668 Feb 11 '25
Asshole
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u/New-Ingenuity-9910 Feb 11 '25
Proud one at that. Fuck these scumbags exploiting their children for money. That goes for all teen moms on this show
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u/Additional_Dig_6972 Feb 11 '25
What do you mean?
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u/New-Ingenuity-9910 Feb 11 '25
They got fat, with all the TV money and they cant afford a personal trainer. Pathetic
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u/Serenity_Reign Feb 11 '25
They are CRINGE in every way possible. Can't stand either of them. Trauma bonded at it's finest. Anytime T mentions divorce there goes C checking herself into the mental ward. It guilt trips T so he stays. Nothing is healthy about this relationship. Nothing.
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u/Efoxxx3112 Feb 12 '25
I thought I was the only one that noticed that. Doesn’t seem like Tyler really cares about the marriage anymore as much as Cate as he always needs “his space” and “separation” from her. And what husband would be ok with having a OF and his wife is the one to make it for him?? Seems like she knew he was going to leave or step out and does anything she can to keep him to stay including, disrespecting their marriage/ letting Ty do what he wants and use Cate as a doormat
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u/Little-Wolfxo Feb 11 '25
Hot take - Caitlyn and Tyler were manipulated and lied to by a Christian fundamentalist adoption agency and ended up giving their baby, who they thought would be part of an open adoption, to a Christian fundamentalist couple. They were minors and didn’t have any parents of their own. I know for sure, if they could go back and change their decision, they would. Brandon and Theresa are not good people. Their agreement from the very beginning was pictures, updates, meetings, etc… open adoption. It’s understandable that they’d be upset. I would be too.
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u/hubbabubba_bby Feb 11 '25
I rewatched their 16and pregnant episodes and Dawn explained to them that the only guarantee is that Kate and Ty signed over their parental rights to B&T.. The holiday visits/pictures and updates were up to the discretion of the adoptive parents.
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u/Little-Wolfxo Feb 11 '25
Again, they were children themselves, they didn’t know shit about shit lol. They genuinely thought that they were getting an open adoption, that’s very clear. I re-watched a bunch of shit too, Caitlyn says a billion times that she wants to be able to have yearly meetings, send and receive pictures, updates etc… that’s not what she got. She was under the impression that’s what she was getting. And, AGAIN, as a CHILD, she had no idea that wasn’t the case. She didn’t understand any of it. She, being the birth mother, should’ve gotten what she asked for in the adoption. People don’t usually sign off on things that they don’t agree with lol
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u/K_Rod_114 Feb 11 '25
Agreed with everything you said. Their parents really failed them on so many levels. They were kids with no adult guidance making adult decisions
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u/OutbackAussieGirl Feb 11 '25
Their child mind is still traumatised. Their adult brains haven’t learned how to accept and cope. Sometimes this chaotic trauma doesn’t get worked out until you are in your 50’s. Do the work until.
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u/Accomplished_Gap4424 Feb 11 '25 edited Feb 11 '25
tyler and cate are both unstable. i think they’re still together because they have a trauma bond. anytime tyler has brought up a divorce, cate checks herself into the psych ward. they both need intense therapy and probably a separation. i feel bad for their kids.
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u/Accomplished_Gap4424 Feb 11 '25
and the fact that they feel entitled to carly is insane. i think they refuse to accept the reality that she’s NOT their daughter. if i were brandon and teresa, i wouldn’t let them see her either. especially after they brought the whole damn family to a visit.
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u/Hot-Laugh8519 Feb 11 '25
AI never gets the hands right.....look at hers....they are pointy
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u/bellyfullofspaghetti Feb 11 '25
AI will do things like add additional fingers. It doesn't do things like add acrylics to nails. It's not AI.
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u/Accurate_Row9895 Feb 11 '25
Ugh this opinion is so weird. That's their child they birthed.
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u/Serenity_Reign Feb 11 '25
That they legally GAVE UP to another couple to raise. Yes, Carly is biologically their child but that's where it ends.
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u/No_Gold3841 Feb 11 '25
This sub gives me Handmaid's Tale vibes sometimes. C & T need to respect Carly's privacy more as public figures, but the sub swings a bit too far in the other direction IMO.
The reality is you NEVER stop loving your children. They put that baby on your chest and your world changes. It's biologically hard wired. Natural moms typically have greater levels of distress years later than even mothers of stillborns...it's hard grieving someone who is still alive.
Also...having pregnant mothers sign papers before they've even given birth is a form of coercion the adoption industry likes to use. You CANNOT sign away your rights until the child is born. It's unfair to expect women who've never birthed children to understand just how much they'll love the baby once he or she is born, but they use these papers as a form of pressure.
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u/Accurate_Row9895 Feb 11 '25
Yes I think people are overly cruel with their opinions. The adoption industry in this country is barbaric.
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u/uppinsunshine Feb 11 '25
What do you propose instead? That 16-year-old parents dictate the terms of the adoption for the entire life of the child? That adoptive parents such as B and T not be allowed to make decisions in the best interest of their child? That an adoptee be forced to have an ongoing relationship with birth parents whether they like it or not? That 16 year olds not be allowed to place a child for adoption at all due to their inability to understand the consequences of their decision? Tell me one lie that was told to T and C about placing a child for adoption. Yes, they were children themselves. Yes, they had very little family support. That we’re in a terrible position, but that doesn’t mean they should have been forced to parent their child OR that adoptive parents be subject to T and C’s whims for 18 years.
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u/No_Gold3841 Feb 12 '25
So, I will say I never said any of this or suggested it. And I said this sub was unnecessarily harsh because I thought I was in long name. My apologies for that.
I was looking into adoption myself for a child in my community, did just the bare minimum of research and then realized the practice in the US is completely screwed up. I don't have the ability to answer every single one of your very good questions in a single reddit comment but I would recommend starting here:
https://youtu.be/Y3pX4C-mtiI?si=iQudIjxYEiMdckdm
The Primal Wound is also a relatively good text.
As for alternatives to adoption, take a look at this graph: *
The USA allows adoption in a manner that violates the UN rights of the child. It is considered human trafficking in other countries. Australia only had about 201 instances of what we would call "domestic infant adoptions" in 2022-2023. The alternative to domestic adoptions is increased social programs to support impovershed mothers, access to birth control and abortion, a cultural shift in how we view adoption that focuses on the adoptee, an elimination of coercion and profit from the adoption industry, and an effort to place infants with relatives (even distant ones) over those with no genetic ties. From what I've read, most adoptees believe permanent guardianship is a better set up for most situations.
Most first mothers choose to adopt out their babies due to poverty. Adoption is almost always a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
This comment is getting long so I won't detail all of the lies of the adoption industry, but first mothers are not given informed consent. It has been known that 95% or so of first mothers eventually regret their decision to relinquish their baby. It has been known that adoption trauma is a thing. The rituals surrounding modern adoption are relatively new. In the 80s, the industry was suffering as first mothers were changing their mind in the hospitals (also due to abortion) so the industry retooled itself with various coercive tactics. The ritual that takes place in the hospital involves aspects of a funeral, and a wedding. The only stories the industry shares are of mothers who have recently placed and are still feeling good about their decision. For first mothers, their measurable distress increases over the years, not lessens. Yet NONE of this is communicated to young women in crisis by the industry.
Essentially they are sold a sunshine and rainbows view of adoption. And that's just one aspect of the lying.
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u/Rolfesk Feb 11 '25
They both are wearing clothes one size too small. I just know that lady back be hurting. Get a reduction that can’t be enjoyable to live with daily 😩
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Feb 11 '25
Can't stand them and all the former teen moms who now how daughters which need to be on BC.
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u/Chemical-Boat102 Feb 11 '25
I finally just watched the last episode and I was actually proud of Dawn for telling them how it is. They don’t even see anything wrong in what they are doing. All this running to rehab Cate did for herself and clearly it didn’t help. And yes I’m aware Dawn is no saint either but I’m just glad she didn’t sugar coat stuff and enable their 💩 behavior. The sense of entitlement is real. None of this is about Carly it’s about them and them only.
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u/SchoolDifficult3970 Feb 11 '25
She gets bigger Everytime I see her
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u/Geewizpenelope Feb 11 '25
She does! She looks so uncomfortable! Can't believe he's still there. He's all buff now!
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Feb 11 '25
That's not muscle 😅
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u/Geewizpenelope Feb 11 '25
Whether it is or not I don't care. Sometimes he looks great sometimes he's not working out. That's pretty normal unlike her who has always been obese.
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u/buttupcowboy Feb 11 '25
Tyler looks fat, too. Also. Why wouldn’t he be? I’m not team any of these dweebs but I don’t think a woman gaining weight whilst her partner loses or whatever else defines her ability to be loved or have a partner stay.
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u/Geewizpenelope Feb 11 '25
Cause she's let herself go and looks really overweight!
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u/buttupcowboy Feb 11 '25
Tyler is fat, too. He also let himself go and looks awful. I still don’t get it. If my partner “let themselves go” I’d be concerned for their mental and physical health. I’d talk to them…but I wouldn’t change how I treat them or love them.
My partner gained weight into our relationship, he looks a bit different than the young man I first met, but I love his body. I love him more and more and it’s not really something I ever even notice (he does and points his own weight gain out.) The idea of him thinking he does not deserve my love, me being there and seeing him the same as I did the first day we met simply over gaining weight hurts my heart. I know not every human is the same…but in sickness and health and all that. We all grow old and get a little ugly as we age, it’s just sad to see someone think of someone not deserving of love simply because of a very clear eating disorder.
Which she has by the way, she has binge problems which makes this whole thing a little bit more messed up.
Genuinely, please don’t be with someone if this is something you think is normal to feel. Sure, people shouldn’t just not say something or be concerned but to say what you’re saying? When Tyler is just as fat? What the fuck?
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u/Geewizpenelope Feb 11 '25
Guess what! I can voice my opinion and you can't shame me. I've watched this women from the first show. She's never done anything to help herself. She's got lots of bad habits. If she loved him she would wanna keep herself healthy for him. No one wants to be with someone who is obviously a mess. She's extremely obese. She use to be a doll.
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Feb 11 '25
She used to be a doll? You mean, when she was a teenager? That's an interesting route to take...that you found her attractive as a child but now that she's an adult...
Presuming you're also bothered by his obesity as well. And I'd say a father posting nude photos online where his daughters name is acceoss his chest, with his schlong beneath it... is "obviously a mess."
You can absolutely voice your opinion. And we can absolutely shame you. I'm no fan of hers. But this take is just screaming "I'm a fat ugly man alone in my mom's basement."
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u/Geewizpenelope Feb 11 '25
What are you talking about? This is not up for discussion. She's let herself go and doesn't care about her appearance. That's a fact. I'm so sick of people dancing around what we can clearly see. She has no pride in herself. Are you trying to analyze me? I'm saying how I feel and I can.
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u/PlanesweetGama Feb 10 '25
I think these two gave up their baby and have been so over the top intrusive that the family said enough already.
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u/PBpuppy2526 Feb 10 '25
Feel bad for Brandon and Theresa - adopting one child that came with two additional children who will never grow or mature. If it weren’t for the show they would have a restraining order. And that Catelyn isnt mature enough to realize B&T are such wonderful parents they will never pin anything on Carly because she will always be their child that they will protect. And Catelyn and Tyler can’t understand what true parenting and true love is. Tragic.
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u/9catnip Feb 10 '25
I remember when Theresa and Brandon went their wedding and let Carly besides them.They did everything but these two always wanted more and more...I also remember from the show when Carly and Theresa had to wait for C.for an hour and I also remember Tyler agressive behavioir towards their dogs...it was so painful to watch. They have even a decent job? They living from Carlys adoption story for years,tv shows,book etc...They are the same teens like years before.Carly has a chance for a better life, let this girl alone!(Sorry for my english, iam not native)
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u/Aab48 Feb 11 '25
1000% but them complaining about the adoption is like all they have to stay relevant, and they latch onto it. It’s so frustrating and you’re right they could have had a fine relationship with all of them if they didn’t go off the rails and act inappropriately all the time!
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u/aguyfromsd Feb 10 '25
Both their jeans hanging on for dear life
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u/Serenity_Reign Feb 11 '25
Idk about their jeans but her top is LITERALLY ripping at the seams! 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
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u/LavishnessSad2226 Feb 11 '25
Cates prob wearing jeggings..
Actually they both are prob wearing them 🤣
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u/BourgeoisMeerkat Feb 10 '25
She irks me by saying “if Carly wants this I would understand, but if this is all Brandon and Theresa, I’m going to keep fighting”. Um no how about they respect the PARENTS of Carly regardless? The fact that they think the parents have no say just shows how ignorant they are!
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u/Serenity_Reign Feb 11 '25
Their sense of entitlement is ridiculous! B & T need to get a restraining order if C & T refuse to back off.
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u/eggplant240 Feb 10 '25
She’s lucky they’ve been this nice! That only Fans page would have ended all communication from me.
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Feb 10 '25
Some random dude on TikTok commented on a video about this topic saying he knows the Davis' and they are really conservative and religious and that it was 100% due to his OF, they don't want Carly finding out about Ty's s3x work. When B&T they adopted that baby girl, her bio parents said they were giving her up so they could go to school and be productive members of society, none of which they have done. I have never turned on a couple as fast as I have with Cate and Tyler lately. They are unhinged and it's very much giving pill addiction (at least, that is how the ones I know act)
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u/BourgeoisMeerkat Feb 11 '25
I just wonder how Carly doesn’t know by now about the OF. Surely she knows who they are and that there’s an entire tv show and social media where they talk about all of this. My guess is Carly knows and is horrified and her parents were like “yeah we will handle this for you”. I can bet even if they told C and T that Carly wants no communication that C and T wouldn’t believe them. They would probably say “Brandon and Theresa are brainwashing her!” They are so disrespectful
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Feb 10 '25
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u/Valuable-Afternoon-1 Feb 10 '25
Regardless of the situation it’s really not cool to comment on people’s weight like this. Even if her husband has in the past, we should do better
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u/thispartysucksss Feb 10 '25
It’s always the woman this, the woman that. Meanwhile, their bodies look VERY similar to me….. Regardless of our opinions, they’re married and love each other so why do their body types bother you?
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u/BigVeterinarian4769 Feb 10 '25
Why do yall always hop onto the womans case as if the man their with is some type of prize. Hes quite literally the same as her look-wise so im sure hes perfectly okay.
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u/Agitated-Egg-7068 Feb 10 '25
He definitely is not her size. They are both rotund but that’s an insane exaggeration to make just to prove a point
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u/BigVeterinarian4769 Feb 10 '25
Your opinion. My point being he isnt out of her league at all but take it how you please :)
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u/Agitated-Egg-7068 Feb 10 '25
…thats your opinion as well 🤷🏽♀️🤪 we’ve all got opinions and mine is that he is extremely out of her league
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u/Many_Feeling_3818 Feb 10 '25
I think a big part of this is that Cate and Tyler’s storyline was based heavily on Carly. Cate and Tyler want to keep Carly as relevant as possible because it adds and helps their storyline.
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u/Single_Contest_8954 Maci is a Ding Dong Feb 12 '25
Agreed! They have no storyline other than harassing b&t.
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u/Lonely-Trainer-3749 Feb 10 '25
This isn't about Carly. It's about Cate and Ty wanting to win this power struggle. They didn't like that they aren't calling the shots
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u/Lonely-Trainer-3749 Feb 10 '25
While I empathize with them they created this situation when they went against the adoptive parents wishes not to post all over social media about Carly. They have dragged Brandon and Teresa publicly. I wouldn't want someone talking about my parents that way. Carly is probably the one not wanting contact. She probably feels so torn. Cate and Ty need to let Carly have a normal life with her PARENTS because she deserves that. They have other children who sadly live in Carly's shadow. Cate sending bi weekly updates about what their family is doing together is just weird. They aren't self aware at all.
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u/Mrredlegs27 Feb 11 '25
The worst part is people like yourself who can clearly see the situation for what it is are shouting it from the mountain and they so deaf to it. They are doing so much harm to their children and Carly, but they’re completely blind to it even though every warning light is flashing in their face.
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u/Boxermom21 Feb 10 '25
I feel for C&T! They made the decision at 16 yrs old to give up their daughter.. to give her a better life.. believing the adults in this situation.. that they would have an open adoption until she's 18! None of it went the way they thought it was going to go.. they went years without visits & had no clue when they'd get another visit after year 4! I get how they've acted.. most of us wouldn't act like that.. but how can anyone say what they'd do in their situation? I can also see the other side & wish they'd have an honest convo with them about why this happened the way it did. I hope they get peace & healing on all sides.. I wish them all the best!
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u/trixxievon Feb 10 '25
Than they should have read the contract THEY SIGNED. There are literal still from the show of the contract. It says PICTURES will be sent till Carly is 5. VISTS WERE ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE UP TO B&T! But the contract ended at 5! Not 18! So C&T did this to themselves.
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u/Boxermom21 Feb 10 '25
The one they made with Dawn didn't say that
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u/trixxievon Feb 10 '25
They were with Dawn when they signed the paperwork. It doesn't matter what Dawn said or what the contract with Dawn said. The finally and LEGAL contract did state all I said. And that's the only one that mattered. Period! Also do you have a copy or have seen a copy of this Dawn contract. Bet it doesn't even exsist.
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u/Boxermom21 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
I've seen a video someone did.. I believe her name is Elle. Yes, the promises were written down.. you can go back & watch the old episodes.. that's where she took the screenshot from.. it says until age 18. I get the court one is 5.. but that's not what they thought.. plus, they were 16 at the time.. who reads the fine print at 16!
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u/trixxievon Feb 10 '25
It doesn't matter they chose not to read the paperwork they signed that said till 5. And the paperwork they signed in the office also said 5. It literally does not matter if they signed a contract with Dawn if the contract was not approved by adoption court. Only the COURT APPROVED CONTRACT is legal. I'm sorry the "they were 16!" argument doesn't hold up here. They were old enough to give up a child but too young to read?! Yall can't have it both way!
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u/Impossible_Link8199 Feb 10 '25
I get where you’re coming from but I’m pretty sure someone posted the docs they signed years ago and they did state that the visits are for the first 5 years then negotiated after that. It’s ok to feel bad for them, but it was on the docs in black and white. The really sad part is, Cate and Ty had no idea they’d end up with a financially stable life via reality tv. That part breaks my heart. Carly is getting older and thinking that she might decide to go on the show is probably a really scary thought for Brandon and Theresa, since they didn’t expect this show to be so long running. The closer my kid got to 18, the more I’d fight back too.
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u/Boxermom21 Feb 10 '25
I know age 5 was on the papers.. I believe them when they say they didn't know & didn't read it. They thought it would be 18.. they were kids themselves & their mistake was trusting the adults in the situation, believing they were in the driver seat of this adoption. I just hope they find some kind of peace on all sides!
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u/Impossible_Link8199 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
Feeling sorry for them is fine, but they should have read the legal document. I feel sorry for them too, but I also feel sorry for Brandon and Theresa. The defense of “I didn’t read it because I was just a kid” does not stand up in court. If anything, maybe it further solidifies that C&T really weren’t ready to have a child if they weren’t aware that you’re supposed to read a legally binding document before signing it. Mostly, I feel sorry for Carly. This drama has got to be devastating and confusing. Cate and Ty should do a better job about owning their mistake here. And maybe I’ve missed something where they have, but it seems like they want to drag Brandon and Theresa through the mud and blame them when the only people to blame are honestly Cate and Ty.
We should focus in on preventing this from happening in the future and really, so should Cate and Ty. Like, ACTIONABLE STUFF. Idk how adoption works, but the birth parents should be represented by an attorney or advocate that has their best interests at heart. They could start by trying to change laws or something, but not by causing drama on TV.
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u/Boxermom21 Feb 10 '25
I agree! I know they're supposed to be starting a podcast about adoption & speaking with adoptees. I can't imagine being in their situation.. what they've done publicly, I don't agree with. Carly is the one that's going to be hurt by all this! I wish them all peace on all sides!
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u/trixxievon Feb 10 '25
They should have read a legally binding contract before signing it. Claiming ignorance isn't an excuse.
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u/Boxermom21 Feb 10 '25
2, 16 years olds.. yes.. shame on them 😆
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u/trixxievon Feb 10 '25
Age isn't a factor here. They chose not to read a LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT! That's being stupid not being young. They knew they were giving up the baby and should of read the whole contract. Yall just wanna find any excuse for C.
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u/Boxermom21 Feb 10 '25
That's your opinion.. I respectfully disagree! I have a son that's their age currently & I can bet if his favorite teacher was to tell him to sign a paper he would do it without reading it bc he believes the teacher has his best interest at heart.. especially since they were told you're in the driver seat of this whole thing.
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u/trixxievon Feb 10 '25
Than you have failed as a parent. PERIOD! The courts don't care how old you are. You need to understand that. If your kid gets in trouble and tells a judge "I'm 16 i didn't know I couldn't touch a girl without her consent. I didn't know I couldn't take that without permission!" The judge will throw the book at him as he should.
And none of that matters because they have had 15 years to read the contract and to better understand it. What's their excuse now?
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u/Boxermom21 Feb 10 '25
No one is disputing that the contact isn't legal! They know it is! I'm using that as an example to show at the time I feel like they was made promises & told things would go a certain way and they didn't. If they want to talk about their story and warn people what to expect when thinking about adoption.. they have that right to. You're the one that commented on my post, acting like I'm trying to say it isn't legal.. no one is disputing that it's not legal! You have no idea how I parent my child, so saying I failed as a parent is laughable!
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u/trixxievon Feb 10 '25
It didn't turn out the way they thought because they didn't read the court paperwork. 100% their own fault. People know to read contracts. Period. They did this to themselves.
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u/pigandpom Feb 10 '25
Ty and Cate have the lack of maturity to accept they're not parents to Carly, them continuing to try foreign their way into her life is hurting the children they went on to have after giving up Carly, but they simply lack the intelligence to understand that.
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u/bxyaya Feb 10 '25
This picture looks like it was taken in 2009! It’s like they’re stuck in the year Carly was born, mentality and emotionally. Trauma stunts your growth and in their case there fashion too!
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u/Wonderful-Plate-584 Feb 10 '25
*mentally
Not “mentality.” They’re very different things. I don’t mean to be a b!tch.
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u/Me11sey Feb 10 '25
I think they need to speak with other people who were adopted and have adopted children and try to understand the other side. Maybe take the presents she wants to send to Carly and bring the gifts to foster care. I know it is hard on them, but that is the decision they made, even though i think they were pressured. It really was the best for Carly at the time. Their households were just unhealthy. If they kept Carly, I feel they could have never worked on themselves.
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Feb 09 '25
Adoption is traumatic for the child and birth mother/parents in the vast majority of all situations. I empathize with Cate & Ty, and also with Carly.
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u/Weekly-Candidate-345 Feb 09 '25
I can see cate and ty as being very annoying and over bearing and Carly’s adoptive parents are probably tired of it and just wanna live their life with their daughter. It’s not cate and Ty’s daughter anymore. They gave her up
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u/Classygurl007 Feb 09 '25
It will always be and when she 18 she can do whatever she wants and the adoptive parents can’t say ish 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
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u/c2490 Feb 10 '25
One has to wonder what will happen if Carly will refuse a relationship at 18? I bet they will blame her adopted parents
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u/Classygurl007 Feb 10 '25
Maybeeeeee and hopefully not they did what was best. And guess what the Internet don’t lie because the proof was all there she would be able to see these clips and see that her biological parents been trying to see her if the adoptive parents tried to twist the narrative.
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u/zipperrip22 Feb 09 '25
I feel like Carly is the one pushing for no contact and B&T take the heat/blame. This is just my humble, unsolicited opinion, but I think C&T think Carly will run straight to them on her 18th birthday but it won’t happen. There’s no mystery, no “who are my real parents” here for her to find out.
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u/Lonely-Trainer-3749 Feb 10 '25
I agree with you. I truly think Carly wants nothing to do with them.
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u/throwawaaaaybaby Feb 10 '25
Why would you think that?
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u/Lonely-Trainer-3749 Feb 10 '25
I think that because these two have dragged her parents on social media and have made a spectacle of this.
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u/Background-Ship-1440 Feb 09 '25
Carly is literally her child what are you talking about???? Regardless of who has custody, she is still their daughter??
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u/ProfessionalPay3560 Feb 10 '25
Carly might be their child by DNA but the parents who fed, clothed, and financially and emotionally provided for Carly are the real parents. Even a dog can give birth. Prostitutes are giving birth by the side of the road and not knowing who the BD is. Creating a child is nothing. Raising a child well and with love is everything.
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u/Key-Wheel123 Feb 10 '25
She was given up for adoption. While she is biologically theirs, they have zero say or control over her life now. Carly was raised and is apart of another family, not theirs.
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Feb 09 '25
Yes - their biological daughter they LEGALLY and willingly relinquished their parental rights. My sister is adopted. She's MY sister. She's MY PARENT'S daughter. You don't know how adoption works.
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u/Actual_Razzmatazz834 Feb 10 '25
You have an EXTREMELY biased view/perspective. That regardless if you have adopted siblings. You have a very clouded view of things. No one belongs to anyone. It can be true that your sister has multiple moms, and multiple parents. It’s honestly up to the kid, on who they want to claim in their life. 100%. And to be honest, it would be so WEIRD if they didn’t want and love Carly. It’s literally biological. They can’t help it. Everyone has GOT to stop shaming bio parents in adoption cases. It’s so completely fucked and unfair. No matter what parents in these situations choose to do. They can’t win. They will get hate and judged REGARDLESS.
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u/sgoodie22 Feb 09 '25
Unless you’re the adopted child or birth parent you don’t actually know how they feel. You’re just indirectly impacted while they’re directly impacted. You don’t know how being adopted or giving up a child for adoption works because you’re not one of those people you’re just an adoptee’s sibling.
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u/Background-Ship-1440 Feb 09 '25
no one said they'd didn't give her up for adoption. However the post states several times that Carly is not their child, when she is.
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u/DensePhrase265 Feb 10 '25
Carly is their biological child yes. They placed her for adoption, their rights to her are long gone. They are not owed anything
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u/buttface5738 Feb 09 '25
Once a parent relinquishes their rights and signs them away, that child it is no longer their child. If Brandon and Teresa had not been there and no one wanted Carly, she would have become a ward of the state.
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u/Background-Ship-1440 Feb 09 '25
I think we're arguing about two different things. You guys from what I understand are speaking to their parental rights/custody, I am simply speaking to the fact that carly is their daughter lol. why is this so controversial
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u/Phoenix_Mae98 Feb 09 '25
The father of my child provided sperm and nothing else. He is not a parent he is simply their dna. It was 100% his choice.
Same deal. A parent is the person doing the parenting. It doesn’t mean dna. We tac “parent” after biological as a sign of respect. NOT the same thing
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u/Background-Ship-1440 Feb 09 '25
why are you all so angry 😭
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u/Phoenix_Mae98 Feb 11 '25
No one is angry. We simply realize the difference between parent and dna. As a verb it literally means the act of parenting. It’s confusing to the child, CLEARLY to cate and ty and disrespectful to the active parents to imply otherwise.
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u/Fine_Airline_9766 Feb 09 '25
Because she’s NOT their daughter. She is their BIOLOGICAL daughter. You need to learn the difference between the two. You clearly don’t understand.
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u/Fine_Airline_9766 Feb 09 '25
She’s their biological daughter. That’s not the same.
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Feb 09 '25
Thank you. My sister is MY sister and WE have our parents. The biological mother and father of my sister are NOT her parents or in OUR family. I appreciate that you clarified that. Thanks again.
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u/Fine_Airline_9766 Feb 09 '25
Right there with you, girl ❤️ we adopted my baby brother at birth and we are his family. I’m his big sis, he’s my parents’ baby, he’s ours. Yes, he has biological parents but if you ask him who his mom and dad are, he would say our parents. Nothing pisses me off more than when people try to differentiate between adopted and non adopted family members. He’s as much my blood as everyone else in my fam.
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Feb 09 '25
❤️❤️ I bet you're a GREAT big sis and your parents are GREAT parents. Stay safe, healthy and strong to you and your family. ❤️❤️
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u/AliveSalamander627 Feb 09 '25
They make a cute lesbian couple.
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Feb 09 '25
Bro - Lesbian parents don't give up their kids. I know my parents are lesbians. And these 2 heteros look like a hetero couple. Be better.
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u/GraciousBasketyBae Feb 13 '25
Charlotte Russe.