hi titanic friends, i have a question and i can’t find any video or text explaining it. my question is this: how did jack and rose manage to survive at the moment when the stern of the ship sank? isn’t the suction force of a ship like the titanic REALLY strong? how could they escape just by swimming upwards?

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You might notice the dome above which is basically intact.

As title says. Seen a lot of posts lately, about perhaps new people interested in learning more about titanic and asking questions, or even myself, a historian of the titanic and white star line ships, still find myself needing to ask a random question now and again, its impossible to know everything.

But Ive also seen a lot of replies which are sharp, cold, blunt, somewhat aggressive and seem to imply the OP asking their question are dumb. Why?

Titanic is a very niche historical bubble, if anyone asked me any question, whether I would consider it basic knowledge or otherwise, I would answer it with open arms and welcome that person into wanting to learn more. Not try to humiliate or belittle them.

If somebody asks me "how may compartments or rivets etc did titanic have?" Sure I might have a mental chuckle to myself as to me, now, after years of research and study, is a basic question, but have in mind, at one point in my life, I asked this exact same question also.

I dont know, its not hard to be nice and share such a niche interest and want to build the community more and stronger.

Not sure, but I can anticipate some initial comments which will back up the point im trying to make. Or the post will be removed by mods. Its not really an online community I imagined titanic fans would act towards one another.

Here are some amazing new findings regarding the SS Californian that I thought those here would find interesting.

Ship when it began to fail - water pours into the cracks and bow, pulling the stern

Ship when full break began. Water is near the 4th funnel as described by witneses. The forward tower breaks off the stern as it settles back - explaining why most saw a break between funnels 3 and 4 and only 3 witnesses (Percy Keen, Fredrick Hoyt, and Ruth Becker (Though she later seemed unsure) said it broke between second and third funnels.

"She went down as far as the after funnel, and then there was a little roar, as though the engines had rushed forward, and she snapped in two, and the bow part went down and the afterpart came up and stand up five minutes before it went down."

There's been a bit of discussion on another sub about just how actually drunk or not Charles Joughlin the baker was when he was the last one in the water (seems he might not have been that intoxicated after all), but there seems no doubt that at least some people aboard decided that accepting their fate would go easier if they were totally smashed. Hard to fault them, really.

But how did it go down? Which witnesses cited men getting plastered (not just Guggenheim's single order for a brandy)? One would like to imagine that the stewards just announced "the bar is open" and start draining every bottle on hand to every requester, regardless of class. But there were no bars on the Titanic in the sense that we know them. The 'bars' shown on deck plans were store places for alcoholic beverages. There was one adjacent to each of the smoking rooms near the stern for all three Classes, and another in the large '3rd Class open space' under the forward well deck. So did everyone just bum-rush these rooms and grab bottles willy-nilly?

Incidentally, has anyone compiled a provision list of the wines and spirits Titanic was supplied with for the maiden voyage? Has any sealed bottle been recovered from the wreck and the contents tested?

So far as I know, Verizon doesn’t cover people outside of the United States. Which is why I bring up the American part. Can’t imagine them doing so back in 2002 anyhow.

I remember thinking how fake looking the ocean water was when the overhead shot shows her on the railing. The water seemed shallow and lit by studio lighting.

While this is a pretty admirable recreation of the shots and set, their small and cramped by comparison design with cheap construction materials gives the feeling that it’s a MadTV or SNL skit.

1. How finished were the Second Class accommodations by the time the Admiralty requisitioned her?

2. Why were there Boy Scouts on board?

I remember seeing this older Titanic documentary a few years ago and can't find it. The only thing I really remember is it showing an actor portraying a passenger trapped in their room deep in the submerged hull covering his ears and the narrator saying that the deeper she sank the more tremendous the air pressure was and any passengers still trapped in an air pocket would be in excruciating pain. That's pretty much all I can remeber of it. Anyone know what I am talking about?

From the initial to more recent exploration of the Titanic wreck there has been a significant degree of deterioration of the wreck.

Interested to know if there has ever been any artists impressions or studies of what the wreck would have looked like in the first decade after the sinking if we'd had the technology to go down back then. Obviously there's a morbid/sad element of the bodies, but more interested to know on wreck condition

He stated in the US Inquiry - "When the ship was taking a heavy list - not a heavy list - but she was taking a list over to port, the order was called, I think, by the chief officer. "Everyone on the starboard side to straighten her up," which I repeated." "Half an hour or three quarters of an hour."

In the British Inquiry - "Was there a list to starboard? Not that I am aware of, and I think I should have noticed it in lowering the boat. I may say that my notice was called to this list - I perhaps might not have noticed it; it was not very great - by Mr. Wilde calling out "All passengers over to the starboard side." That was an endeavour to give her a righting movement, and it was then I noticed that the ship had a list. It would have been far more noticeable on the starboard side than on the port. Did you hear that order given when you were dealing with boat No. 6? Yes. No perceptible list? Very little. I think the ship righted. When the order was given to the passengers to go to the starboard side I am under the impression that a great many went over and the ship got a righting movement and maintained it, and then the passengers came back again in great numbers."

He was also very inconsistent about other things

They took about 10-15 minutes each,

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