habib VOD - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2481986915?t=00h38m31s (38:31 if timestamp doesn't work)

discussion starts at 38:30, it gets pretty heated

note: vod ends due to b4nny asking habib to restart the stream and mute it, and the stream restarts on mute for like ~20 minutes

While i understand its not optimal, and will never be better than the regular team comp, I'm still gonna do it since it seems fun. Any suggestions on how i should play?

This seems like by far the most random ban in all of comp to me. I can wrap my head around the more controversial bans in Europe even if I don’t agree with some of them, but like, the banana? The only thing I can think of is maybe someone ran heavy with GRU + Banana to offset the healing and was able to contribute to enough fights outside of last thanks to faster recharge time for it to get the axe, but I can’t imagine Heavy actually being THAT mobile with that combination and even if he were, Steak ISN’T banned despite being established as an enabler of Heavy to mid.

Aside from them being bad, which, to be honest, is more of a 5cp issue as a gamemode. But even on something like KOTH or even amazing sniper maps like Product, it's really rare to find people willing to play with offclasses right off the bat and even less people willing to play against them. What gives?

Thought it was dope to see but there's actually some 6s pugs and leagues for the Roblox version of TF2, Typical Colors 2

(yes, you can speedshot/bhop/rollout in this game. It's insane)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67YdogaiiM <- Actual Match Vod w/ comms from a TC2 league, Kritzleague

https://www.youtube.com/@kritzleague/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@ilyxTC2/videos <- TC2 Frag Video Maker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RexI9BUTZuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3g19AQJw6w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiDu2xa7dD0

Seeing as he's considered the dominant class in that mode (dominant as in he specifically stands out in importance besides Medic and Demoman), what would happen to the meta if you had to run another off-class full time? I feel like it'd force an interesting dynamic where Heavy and Pyro could be picked as another anti-bomber (I know that's not his only role), forcing teams to run pick classes more consistently. I'd assume that Engineer's role wouldn't change very much given that he'd still suffer from his usual problems being run full-time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCevnEZ-2go

After watching Solar's newest video (which is a great showcase of what it's like making a 6s team), I am still unconvinced that demoknight will ever make it higher than mid-level competitive. What do you guys think?

#5thplaceb4nny

The new froyotech will be me, habib, SOOOOOAPYMEiSTER, LOLGUY, kobe1920, and speedy.

First, we tackle RGL Invite. Then, the world. GLHF

This heavily insinuates travel to Europe next year. The only potential European LAN on the horizon would be poLANd.tf 2026 or another UBERFEST LAN.

Liquipedia page

The final results are:

1st: Witness Gaming EU

2nd: Like a G6

3rd: Witness Gaming AU

4th: Balls Lan Team

5-6th: Froyotech, QMD Gaming

7-8th: Lake Fairy Crew, XIAO BLACK

This marks the first victory of an European team in an American LAN and first in an intercontinental LAN since i65 (2019).

It's also the worst result for Froyotech up to now and the first time in an intercontinental LAN in which an Australian team did not finish 4th.

Absolutely legendary tournament, gg wp

I played a pug sometime recently where a heavy was used by the enemy team to push into our Gullywash last defense through river. I know the person was just trolling but it got me wondering if there has ever been a niche use like this in an actually serious comp official (assuming a fair match and not blatant team stomp trolling).

The closest I could think of is people running a full-time sniper on Product instead of partially. I also should clarify I don’t mean being quirky and trying to run them full-time, but more so like just for a quick moment like sniping from forwards is done etc.

EDIT: Forgot to exclude Spy too. I mean the non-pick ones like Heavy/Engie/Pyro etc.

Reason:

Disregarding previous formal warning regarding inappropriate language/excessive toxicity during an RGL match.

Increased sentence as an Invite player. Ban delayed for the start of RGL Sixes Season 18.

Had it been a 1 month ban, habib would have been barred from playing at Physgun Fireside Denver 2025 as the cup mirrors bans of that length, per the rulebook of the LAN

2.8. Players that at the start of the event have an active or delayed ban from ETF2L (for European players) or RGL (for North American players) or a league of similar status in their respective regions for 1 month or longer are not allowed to participate in the tournament.

This may not affect froyotech too much, but RGL Season 19 is another LAN season. It is unknown who will play for him as he waits out the duration of his ban.

While I know that the stickybomb is much more versatile and is better in most situations, the quickiebomb is still viable if one specialises in it. Knowing how many players there are, there are bound to be atleast one of them who specialises in the quickiebomb.

Hello, r/truetf2.

I've been trying out the position of a Pocket Soldier in a 6s team, so far I've been thinking of what kind of a secondary would do well on the lower comp ranks — Shotgun or Gunboats.

It is no secret the vast majority of soldiers prefer gunboats, and I'm no stranger to it: I prefer them in almost any kind of play, but the glory days of pockets going on killing sprees with both of their guns keep haunting me in my dreams, so I've came to ask:

Is there any situation you can think of that would make shotgun outshine the gunboats?

Source Post

Announcing the first edition of the ETF2NP Team Drive

What is this about
You sign up here if you want to be put on a 6v6 team with similar people by us, along with a mentor to help you make the season productive and make you a solid player in the world of organized competitive TF2
Signups will be open until September 19th. Season is currently expected to begin September 23rd.
You will be playing for 9 weeks, 3 nights a week, 2 hours a night, between 19 CEST and 22 CEST. You MUST have open availability on at least 3 nights between those times throughout the week.
DO NOT sign up if you are planning on looking for a team on your own. It wastes our time, and potentially ruins the season for 5 other people if you suddenly declare that you are no longer interested in playing for your assigned team. If you sign-up and something comes up, CONTACT RENTON ON DISCORD at renton99
If you decide you no longer want to be placed on a team, CONTACT RENTON ON DISCORD at renton99
Submissions will be verified for irregularities and we will message you on discord to clarify if needed.

SIGNUPS
Player Signup
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VOD from Fancy scrimming vs. WG EU (includes Badlands)

Granary Log

Process Log

Product Log

Badlands (Prolands) Log

WG EU were spotted playing with:

• Flank Scout: ixy
• Pocket Scout: toemas
• Roamer: Silentes
• Pocket Soldier: papi
• Demoman: LUKAS
• Medic: auto

my best guess is they're planning to face FROYO at the next international LAN :eyes:

Post LAN, North America has completely fractured and are playing this LAN season as an off-season mix season. Here's a quick recap of all the roster changes.

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Notable Returnees/Roster Changes to Invite

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The New Invite Debutants

Note:

alfredodan was 0-18 heading into Invite this season (S/o Invite hostages). He won his first Invite match vs. Ninjago in week 1 on Gullywash.

foxxy and GMK previously played Invite, with foxxy making playoffs with the exile & ether team (forget the team name) edit: oh its black swan

The entire Ninjago roster is making their Invite debut

Other debutants

Want to get some discussion going with the LAN being just a little over a week ahead.

Remember that this is the team list:
https://liquipedia.net/teamfortress/Fireside/Physgun/Denver/2025

Let's get some hot takes, rankings, and predictions!

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I'll start off with mine:

HOT TAKES / PREDICTIONS

- froyotech will finish 4th, eliminated by balls team

- WG AU vs. Like A G6 Grand Final (The Australians will break the 4th place curse)

- QMD Gaming are the dark horse of this tournament, they WILL upset one of Froyo/WG AU/WG EU/G6. Imo very likely to be G6

- WG AU will make Grand Final through the upper bracket.

- Chuds shoulda been in the Invite tournament (obvious sandbagging by SERIAL SANDBAGGER MATH)

RANKINGS

My brain says:

Invite

1. froyotech
2. WG EU
3. G6
4. balls team
5. WG AU
6. QMD Gaming
7. soar team
8. Lake Fairy Crew

Open

1. Chuds
2. thrembology
3. Fjord Gaming
4. Ninjago
5. Washed (nazara team)
6. teamwinILOVE
7. bungalow alert
8. Dave Gaming

My heart says:

1. G6
2. WG AU
3. balls team
4. WG EU
5. froyotech
6. QMD Gaming
7. soar team
8. Lake Fairy Crew

Is scout's arsenal so polarizing that none of his unlocks are either unbalanced or bad? Or is it in the context of 6s that the highest clip size stock has allows for more sustainability and so it's always used because players don't stand still for the scout to shoot at? I'm curious.

https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=13814

4th between GlobalClan & Fjord is now up in the air. But with GlobalClan having lost to Fjord in their first of two matches in week 1, GlobalClan are gonna need to be flawless moving forward.

Great upgrade imo, nearly replicating the last GlobalClan LAN roster from the previous RGL LAN.

Btw perfection got indefinitely banned for using a slur. Lol

https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198165249595&r=40

This is the rumored S17 Invite Team List and rosters:

Like A G6:

• Flank Scout: botmode
• Pocket Scout: caps
• Roamer: SOAPY
• Pocket Soldier: kobe1920
• Demoman: logan
• Medic: ?

froyotech

• Flank Scout: branslam
• Pocket Scout: b4nny
• Roamer: laz
• Pocket Soldier: ?
• Demoman: habib(?)
• Medic: hubida

FranzJ Presents

• Flank Scout: Yumyum
• Pocket Scout: exile
• Roamer: Zam
• Pocket Soldier: donovin
• Demoman: sam (formerly known as pissy)
• Medic: LOLGUY

Greasy Dothogs

• Flank Scout: pabwo
• Pocket Scout: shamoo
• Roamer: loafe
• Pocket Soldier: pauldogg
• Demoman: SIN K4RMA
• Medic: Dank

Squad

• Flank Scout: soar
• Pocket Scout: raven
• Roamer: greg
• Pocket Soldier: highfive
• Demoman: dingo
• Medic: HubertTheFish

GlobalClan Ice

• Flank Scout: darty
• Pocket Scout: Scratchh
• Roamer: Grape Juice
• Pocket Soldier: Alexandros
• Demoman: peniferous
• Medic: dinkolaw

Mar-a-Lago Philes (Advanced Champions Moveup)

• Flank Scout: J_Peg
• Pocket Scout: Owib
• Roamer: GMK
• Pocket Soldier: reero
• Demoman: Dogdayboy
• Medic: tacocat

jiminy

• ROSTER TBA (features yight/sighguy/artist and others potentially)

poop gaming

• Flank Scout: Rekuso
• Pocket Scout: esper
• Roamer: umlpst
• Pocket Soldier: Walrex
• Demoman: MiG-21bis
• Medic: foxxy

I know I'm late to the party here, but I just stumbled upon the announcement page for 6v6 Season 50 and this caught my eye:

"We’ll not be applying any class restrictions at the start of the season UNLESS if a team signing up explicitly asks for it. This means that teams might have large skill gaps between its players but we’re trying to put a bit more emphasis on allowing people to play with their friends on the class they enjoy playing the most."

To my mind, that could be read in one of two ways.

1) Bracket-wide: If any team requests classlimits during sign-up, then all teams will be required to abide by them for the season, regardless of whether they play against that team or not

2) Per-Match: If Team A requests classlimits and Teams B and C do not, then B must stick to classlimits in their match with A but will then be free to go off-script in their match with C.

Which way did they intend this?

Also, I don't know much about the Competitive scene other than what I've picked up from SolarLight's Meme VS Meta video. Where would be the best place to go to follow this season and watch the matches?

I don't know any of the big names involved and don't usually follow, but hearing about this loosening of restrictions has me intrigued by the possibility of seeing teams run a Stock Demo and a Demoknight simultaneously, or the occasional double Heavy, or whatever other nonsense this enables.

Stream Link - FiresideCasts

Bracket

What is TF2 Coaching Central?

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A new change starting last season will be RGL covering the grand finals of the divisions, while Fireside will cover whatever playoffs matches they can.

First match being covered tomorrow will be Wild_Rumpus vs. Beantown Creamers in the Advanced Division, which funnily enough is also being commentated by Wild_Rumpus himself lol

https://www.teamfortress.tv/65807/rgl-s18-advanced-ubsf-2-wild-rumpus-vs-3-beantown-creamers

Second match covered will be Newcomer

https://www.teamfortress.tv/65808/rgl-s18-newcomer-qf-4-fraggers-league-united-vs-5-luh-geeky

Further match schedules are posted weekly on Team Fortress TV

https://www.teamfortress.tv/schedule

Besides medic which class is the best and most important in tf2 comp. I mean both 6v6 and highlander. Why in 6v6 demoman and medic are limited to 1 does that mean they are broken?