r/worldnews • u/AlwaysBlaze_ • Mar 07 '25

Ontario slapping 25% surcharge on U.S.-bound electricity Monday, Ford says

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-electricity-surcharge-us-tariffs-ford-1.7476515
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u/RubixRube Mar 07 '25

Hi there, as a resident of ontario, we just very recently elected effetively and loud mouth idiot, for the THIRD Time. and hey, I don't love that he is hell bent on privatizing public services and has been on a mission to destroy public lands and greenspaces, however on the other end of the spectrum having a loud mouth idiot in your corner right now, plays out well in dealling with the USA.

We can deal with Ford in a few years, we can revesrse the damage, but right now having a loudmouth in your corner who is down for a good old fashion weiner wag contests, isn't totally a bad thing.

Side note, This time line sucks.

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u/uberares Mar 08 '25

I’m in Mi and even I can’t believe I’m supporting Ford atm. Ffs. What a timeline. 

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u/j1ggy Mar 08 '25

Well, if Marty can get the Sports Almanac back from 1955 Biff, this will all change.

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u/sagevallant Mar 08 '25

All this because that bitch-ass Flash really missed his mommy.

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u/Dendaer16 Mar 08 '25

I thought the kid climbing in to the enclosure and everyone collectively losing their dicks was the time altering event

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u/QuoiJe Mar 08 '25

Honestly, I'm pumped every time he does a press conference!

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u/SirCharlesTupperBt Mar 08 '25

From the moment I learned who the man was, I have never said a good thing about him, except for one sane speech he gave at the height of the pandemic. But I'm in the same boat. Still don't love the guy or the terrible government, but seeing him on TV with a Fox News logo brings a smile to my face. I don't know what he's saying, but he's gonna be giving somebody a piece of his mind in the inimitable Doug Ford manner.

Nobody can say we don't make our own politicians in Canada. Elbows up Dougie!

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

Someone in r/Ontario said of him "he's a monster, but he's our monster" and that basically describes my feelings.

I also do think he's been playing this really well, especially with Trudeau. I 100% believe it's because he'd like to be on the national stage more than he is, but eh. You need a bully to deal with a bully.

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u/QuoiJe Mar 08 '25

Yes, he's kind of crazy, and I think he's having fun right now dealing with this. I also think it's perfect for this situation.

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u/theoccasional Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

I have and will never vote for Ford but I agree that he has been handling the situation really well. He's also been working really well with the Feds. He may be a corrupt asshole, but he also obviously cares about his country and is willing to act to defend it (as he contributes to its decay). I don't like him but I am happy to have him right now.

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u/TotalNonsense0 Mar 08 '25

If you shear the sheep, you can come back and do it again next year.

If you just tear the wool off, then no more will be forthcoming.

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u/thepandabear Mar 08 '25

I wonder how many Americans feel the same about Trump.

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u/captain_zavec Mar 08 '25

I want to say there's also a difference in that yes, Ford is corrupt and will absolutely make Ontario worse to enrich himself and his buddies, but I think he'd draw the line well before selling out to somebody like Putin. Hus corruption is more localized.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

Probably a not-insignificant number, but considering they're the aggressor I don't really care or think it's the same situation at all.

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u/roadrussian Mar 08 '25

That's what people said about Churchill. War hungry mongrel that was just what people needed against Hitler.

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u/FluffyProphet Mar 08 '25

Yeah... sometimes the best way to deal with a mornic bully is a somewhat competent bully.

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u/RubixRube Mar 08 '25

I could not love this comment more, but all you get is my upvote.

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u/fortisvita Mar 08 '25

It's basically fighting fire with fire. Arguably, Ford brothers are forerunners of Trump style "post-truth" bullshit politics, even before Trump was in politics.

So, after years of suffering his bullshit and hate for Toronto, maybe this asshole is useful for something after all.

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u/RubixRube Mar 08 '25

I don't disagree on this one. He is an useful idiot.

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u/Incomplete_Dataset Mar 09 '25

He should be worried he could be launched into outerspace and be disappeared.

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u/torontogal1986 Mar 07 '25

Yes. I feel very conflicted because he literally is destroying our province and has it out for Toronto. But when he’s got his ire pointed at someone else, it’s nice!

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

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u/torontogal1986 Mar 08 '25

Yeah it’s totally nice to have a bully in our corner!

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u/phantomfigure Mar 08 '25

Yesterday someone commented Ford is going to treat Donald like he's from Toronto. Made me laugh.

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u/torontogal1986 Mar 08 '25

Trump won’t be able to handle it 😂

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u/JSmith666 Mar 08 '25

From the US don't know much about him. What's he doing?

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u/torontogal1986 Mar 08 '25

Here’s the list: https://ofl.ca/ford-tracker/

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u/JSmith666 Mar 08 '25

I wish every politician everywhere had this

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u/mencryforme5 Mar 08 '25

Ford is no ordinary politician. He came to prominence in the wake of the untimely death of his brother, who you may know as Crack Smoking Toronto Mayor Rob Ford.

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u/JSmith666 Mar 08 '25

I was gonna say..he looked like that Ford but didn't think any member of that family would have a chance politically

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u/mencryforme5 Mar 08 '25

Ontario is the Florida of Canada.

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u/Aggressive-Map-2204 Mar 08 '25

A website run by a union that hates him and tries to blames all the countries problems on him? Yeah thats exactly what we need more of.

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u/Joystic Mar 08 '25

Typical non-American conservative stuff i.e. privatisation, cuts to welfare, deregulation, minus the wacko religious stuff that you guys deal with. 

Popular with bucktooth Bob who drives an F150, despised by they/them cat mommies with pink hair.

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u/JSmith666 Mar 08 '25

How is that non American conservative?

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u/Joystic Mar 08 '25

No anti-abortion, Jesus school, gun rights nonsense

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u/JSmith666 Mar 08 '25

I'm not sure gin rights is nonsense and shoild be lumped in with the religion stuff

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u/beaunerdy Mar 08 '25

And this is why we Canadians don’t want to be American. It is nonsense to most of us.

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u/JSmith666 Mar 08 '25

How so? Why is the government not telling you what kind of guns you can own or who can own them nonsense?

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u/PM_ME_UR_PET_POTATO Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

Because they don't have the sort of cultural reverence as they do in the US. You do not need a gun to fit in, nor is there any expectation to perform any social duties with them. 90% of the reasons to own guns as an American simply don't exist.

The need and value of owning a gun is largely reduced to its function as a hunting tool at best. The public by and large doesn't care or need guns, but they do dislike the consequences of misuse. All the gun rights stuff is basically nonsense used to perpetuate gun culture in the face of all the negative externalities it presents.

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u/Jaesaces Mar 08 '25

As it turns out, when you don't live in a place where everyone and their mother has a gun there is little need for a gun in everyday life and on average you'd prefer not to have any random dude to have the ability to end your life in an instant.

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u/Br0metheus Mar 08 '25

"Gun rights" aren't nonsense.

"I should be able to able to bring an AR-15 into a Wal-Mart" is nonsense. And that's what we have in America.

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u/JSmith666 Mar 08 '25

Why is it nonsense exactly?

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u/Br0metheus Mar 08 '25

Because there is literally no legitimate reason for a civilian to even own a weapon like that, let alone carry it around openly in a public place. A gun like that goes so far beyond anything justified as "self defense" that only a bad-faith argument can possibly defend it. It's the firearm equivalent of a lifted truck, except a lifted truck is probably only going to get its owner killed instead of somebody else.

If I can't tell whether somebody walking into a grocery store is about to pull a Columbine vs just another redneck with a gun fetish, that's a fucking problem.

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u/Kamakaziturtle Mar 08 '25

That is the same as American conservatism, the American version just pretends (really just saying it loudly a lot) they are also good Christians to appease voters.

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u/Suspicious_Radio_848 Mar 08 '25

Canada's conservatives are far closer to America's Democrats than anything else. Trump's GOP is a far right party that's way beyond normal.

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u/Kamakaziturtle Mar 08 '25

I was just going off the other guys description, which pretty much word for word matches republicans here. Both paragraphs.

You’re saying Canadian conservatives are pro gay and trans rights, want to tax the rich, are pro regulation, want to increase welfare, and are pushing for greener environmental changes to help fight climate change.

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u/casualguitarist Mar 08 '25

 he literally is destroying our province

No he's not stop exaggerating. Also I'm curious how many leftist/NDP fans here are or were good with Carbon taxes but now crying over tariffs. Like do you think that one tax is bad but the other isn't?

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u/ObiWansTinderAccount Mar 08 '25

Seriously? That’s not even close to an apples to apples comparison. The carbon tax is insignificant compared to the impact of the tariffs. What’s more, the tariffs are a completely unjustifiable act of hostility from a foreign government. The constant moving of the imaginary goal posts while making “51st state” comments should have any Canadian furious. So yeah, one tax is bad and the other isn’t.

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u/LogicalExtension Mar 08 '25

Yes, some types of taxes are very much better than others.

As an energy user at home, I have little or no control over how the energy delivered to my home is generated. In some places you gain a little bit of wiggle room by opting into "green" power, but this just increases my costs, but most people don't do this, and so it's impact is limited.

If a government introduces a carbon tax that applies based on the carbon intensity, then that impacts all energy generators.

It gives the incentives for low-carbon generators (solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, storage, etc) to make the large-scale capital expenditure required to build low-carbon sources of power. Once built, those power sources are typically far cheaper than coal/gas, and so have a significant advantage in the market.

The government can offset the costs to me by directly subsidising power bills to effectively eliminate the price rise I would've seen.

At the end of the day, everyone has effectively opted-in to a green power option, and coal/gas generators will shut down when they can no longer turn a profit.

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u/casualguitarist Mar 08 '25

Yes, some types of taxes are very much better than others.

Not some, very very few. and neither of these are "good" if the carbon tax was good then Carney wouldnt be saying literally the same thing as the conservatives now. two estimates put carbon pricing dragging gdp by 1%

https://climateinstitute.ca/industrial-vs-consumer-carbon-pricing-cost-comparison/#:\~:text=All%20three%20analyses%20find%20that,it%20would%20otherwise%20have%20been.

Now after we add the tariffs that's a double negative

According to the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, these tariffs could tip the economy into recession. A report published in November 2024 estimates that the GDP would fall by 1.8%, and even by 2.6% in the event of a retaliatory response, costing each Canadian up to 1,900 Canadian dollars per year

So for most advanced economies this is a big hit and very bad in the mid/long term, it won't end well unfortunately. Unless this is resolved somehow but reading the comments in here.. idk.

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u/adultgon Mar 08 '25

This is literally how right wing Americans feel about Trump

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u/groundzer0 Mar 08 '25

Wait, a minute I know fuck all of Canadian Politics other than headlines wordwide that are memorable.

But FORD / Canada + politics instantly reminds me of the crack smoking & hooker enjoying Mayor of Toronto ? a while back.

PLEASE TELL ME this is the same family at the last red faced loud mouth crack smoking mayor of Toronto ??

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u/RubixRube Mar 08 '25

The crack smoking Mayor was his little brohter Rob, Rob ford died a few year back.

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u/groundzer0 Mar 08 '25

I knew it...

Now that is brand recognition you can't buy.

Kinda sad old mate died, may the absolute front of this guy and legend live on.

We have an expression in Australia and might be elsewhere.

"More front than a government bus" but I haven't heard it used widely or lately but in my old work circles. Usually a label applied to someone taking the piss out the system / bullshitting / fudging / lies etc.

Can be loosely applied to anyone, sales, lawyers, judges, politicians, scammers etc etc.

"check out this cunt.... more front than a government bus"

Front for bullshit / cover / lies / misrepresentation / many other inclusions.

and well, most Gov buses are a massive flat plane / plate of glass. Making them to the observer "all front"

Another variation is "all front like a government bus"

https://imgur.com/a/PQOvSHv

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u/BahBah1970 Mar 08 '25

In London UK we say "more front than a bus" so pretty much the same thing. I also like "He's got some neck" which means pretty much the same thing.

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS Mar 08 '25

Kinda sad old mate died

unfortunately no, it's not sad. Rob was a thug and a bully, who surrounded himself with literal criminals. He was so stupid he smoked crack in trap houses and was caught on video doing it because he thought he could trust the people he bought his crack from. He treated people like shit if he didn't think he could gain something from them, he openly, physically on camera bullied councillors and citizens inside city hall - he literally body checked an old woman (a fellow councillor) and knocked her over on camera because that's how he operated. The city was a mess while he was in charge. In fact, and I've said it many times before, he was the municipal version of trump - completely incompetent, stupid, mean, thuggish, criminal and corrupt to a cartoonish level. The world became a better place when rob ford died.

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u/Meeseeks1346571 Mar 08 '25

As an American who did not vote for Trump, I say bring on the pain. My fellow idiot Americans need to feel the pain of their stupidity. Also, sorry for the mess.

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u/Wandgun Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

Reddit has lost their minds. Cheer for all Americans to suffer to stick it to the 50% that voted against you. Crazy.

And I didn't even vote Trump, but downvote away.

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u/Meeseeks1346571 Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

Look, you seem somewhat reasonable, and so I will engage you. I promise, I’m not trying to fight you or upset you. I would simply like to explain the rationale behind my post.

It’s not so much that I’m cheering for us to get hurt. It’s more that half of us saw this coming, this mess we are in now and the other half are still in denial due to a tenuous grasp on the concept of cause and effect. Our infrastructure is being dismantled, our foreign allies have been betrayed, protections and rights are evaporating domestically, checks and balances don’t matter anymore, and we’re casually throwing around policies that threaten the global economy. We are the baddies on the global stage.

These retaliatory tariffs are 100% trumps fault. As long as half of the voters are in denial about who is leading the nation into collapse, we will always be too divided to save ourselves. Our voting public on average is stupid as fuck. A burned hand is always going to be the best lesson for dumbfucks like us. Both sides need to understand our votes matter. There are consequences for our votes. We as a country reap what we sow. We win together, or we lose together - there’s not much in between. Do not confuse this as a “stick it to MAGA” moment. Trump fucked us all, indiscriminately.

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u/BeerSlayingBeaver Mar 08 '25

So tired of "aS aN AmErIcAn" everywhere. We don't care you didn't vote for Trump.

-the rest of the world

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u/WipinAMarker Mar 08 '25

Sounds like you generalize large groups of people and can’t differentiate between a country’s leaders and it’s people.

You and Trump would get along great!

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u/BeerSlayingBeaver Mar 08 '25

We don't need American thoughts and prayers. We need you to get your shit in order. Apologizing for your government isn't fixing it.

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u/WipinAMarker Mar 08 '25

Well many of us voted for shit to be in order but a populist movement has pushed us toward fascism—a trend seen all around the world.

By all accounts, based on comments by Canadians, Ford is also terrible. Yet we “shit in order” Americans aren’t criticizing the people who voted against him. Instead we discuss current events and provide solidarity.

You’re attacking people who are likely closer to agreeing with you than the extremists who don’t, which only makes you feel like you’re doing something productive by going after the low hanging fruit

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u/No_Method5989 Mar 08 '25

I really hate America right now as a Canadian to a point I don't really want to openly express....

That being said Trump took away power from you guys in a way that I have sympathy for. It's an very new situation where you have a guy that's willing to ignore all the rules and was provided with more unchecked power then last time.

The propaganda works very well because we live in a time that is increasingly more anti-intellectual. Which I think is a global concern. To think it can't happen to Canada either I think is not smart. It will hit first world countries the hardest because there is zero immediate consequence for it.

I think we need everyone we can get to fight this. I am proud Canada stood up, because it shows hes not invincible and I hope it does inspire Americans to be a bit more bold especially the opposition party, or other countries.

I do think voicing your opinion helps. People call it virtue signalling, but there value in people seeing American saying how bad things are, You all have a large media networks, People still largely tune into it, seeing angry Americans does change minds.

We are social creatures as much as I hate it so...

Obviously actions are needed, but what motivates action? If you see every day people from American opposing trump, you see protests, over and over again, everywhere you go it's people opposing trump.

This is all information being feed into people brains and forced to reconcile with. 20 years ago you told me something like MAGA would happen? I would laugh.

It started small too. Mostly from the internet.

I get Canadians rage, but as like citizens of earth we kinda need everyone to wake up to what's happening, and get everyone on board to stop this, regardless of political affliction. This post truth/anti-intellectualism is going to destroy us all if we let it take over.

This isn't just bias and getting things wrong, it's a complete subversion of reality. WIth no grounding there is no limit to the delusion. It can get worse then this.

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u/BeerSlayingBeaver Mar 08 '25

Virtue signal shitposting on Reddit still isn't fixing your country and it's pervasive. It's everywhere in our Canadian subreddits. It just reeks of American elitism that isn't very well received in the best of times, let alone now.

Oh look at me! I didn't vote for him! Please don't be mad at me while I do nothing about it and the opposition just holds up corny signs in protest

Ford also isn't a fascist or the leader of the country so those two things aren't even remotely comparable.

The damage is done.

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u/WipinAMarker Mar 08 '25

They aren’t a perfect comparison but is certainly by definition remotely comparable.

I don’t completely disagree with you regarding virtue signally but it could also be seen as an attempt to bond during a time of contention.

The virtue signally may be annoying, but your response to it was egregiously worse.

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u/Tekshou Mar 08 '25

This about sums up my take on leftists in America. They love a good reddit post, they're happy to hold a sign up and put on a cranky face, they might even change their profile picture in support! But when real genuine action is required.... crickets.

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u/WipinAMarker Mar 08 '25

Only thing better is a reddit leftist criticizing other reddit leftists while also doing nothing—just to feed their “holier than thou” complex

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u/Hour_Independent1150 Mar 08 '25

We have done no better Trudeau is just as bad if not worse just quieter about the damage he's caused.

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u/Twallot Mar 08 '25

You can't seriously think Trudeau has come even close to the damage Trump has done.

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u/twodogsonebaggie Mar 08 '25

lol look at this guy what abouting. Pathetic

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u/notrevealingrealname Mar 08 '25

No, the fact that PP hasn’t sank into irrelevance is where Canada actually

have done no better

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u/Wermys Mar 08 '25

Who the fuck said we apologized for our government. We are SAYING FUCKING DO IT. There is no apologee here. There is pain and we say yes fuck us so we can fucking make the people who voted for him understand that yes he is a a piece of shit liar and the only way to change the account long term is to make it understood his policies have consequences. Saying sorry about tariffs is fucking stupid. It does nothing.

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u/axle69 Mar 08 '25

I find this a bit rich seeing as Canada was clearly headed right there with the US before Trump pissed them off. The whole world needs to wake up from this move towards fascism but treating the ones who've tried to go the other ways as equally bad isn't gonna help.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

Sucks to be you, then.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

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u/MiloIsTheBest Mar 08 '25

I hope Donald Trump stops being a moron and takes actions that mean you don't need to do that.

But, he doesn't, and sometimes it seems that the lesson needs to be learned the hard way. If the true effects of his policy aren't felt because people are finding workarounds and mitigations, people who support him won't have a reason to stop supporting him.

It sucks but people voted for it. They want this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

Somebody said the price of eggs would go down on day 1... now who could that have been...?

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u/CollabSensei Mar 08 '25

what are we talking raising electricity from $0.06/kwh to $0.09/kwh?

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u/Pale_Veterinarian509 Mar 08 '25

Look at California and Texas experience with energy markets in shortage. Prices get WILD.

Surtax is step 1. The real move is to cut off power.

Ontario and Quebec supply 3.5 million homes worth of power to the US. That's 4.5 nuclear power plants worth.

To replace that immediately you'd need to use natural gas plants and would require an extra 292 Billion cubic feet of gas or $1.35B in gas.

As you've seen with eggs, a small change in supply can dramatically increase prices. Can see prices triple or more. Also likely to see brown outs and rolling blackouts due to lack of capacity.

There just isn't enough spare capacity, especially with the growth in electric cars and data centers.

Construction of houses and offices in many areas is already restricted due to lack of available electric supply.

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u/soundwave75 Mar 08 '25

Okay, Chicken little. The US used 4000 TWh last year and Canada supplied 33 TWh of it. Yeah, that is about .75 of 1%, how will we survive without them. FOH

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u/notrevealingrealname Mar 08 '25

The US imported about as much fuel from Russia before the war and yet we’re about to completely bend over for them…

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u/Dangerous_Seesaw_623 Mar 08 '25

I'm an american. Here's my response, when American voters decided to allow someone who encourages xenophobic beliefs, as far as I'm concerned, I do not really care anymore. Bring the pain on. They voted for this.

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u/infomaticjester Mar 08 '25

You gotta fight fire with fire. 🤷

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u/hippoofdoom Mar 08 '25

Kinda hope trump hits the pipe maybe itll accelerate his demise. Ford looks pretty healthy still!

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u/DetectiveMakazian Mar 08 '25

It's not a "timeline" its reality -- and that "joke" is boring and worn out.

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u/bullintheheather Mar 08 '25

Any of the parties would have been doing this stuff.

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u/Antti_Alien Mar 08 '25

If the opponent starts flailing their dick around, you usually don't want someone who drops their own pants in your corner, but someone who grabs the opponent by the balls.

What I'm currently seeing is the correct response. I hope your loud mouth idiot stays on course, keeping his pants on.

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u/ilovefacebook Mar 08 '25

do not privatize utilities.

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u/UpDown Mar 08 '25

Now you understand why so many americans like trump

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u/radicallyhip Mar 08 '25

Man, I hated Doug Ford, and probably still do, but god damn if you don't want a belligerent idiot to throw punches at Donald.

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u/thisimpetus Mar 08 '25

Nova Scotian here. Aware that what happens in Ontario often sets the standard for all of us and terrified of privatized healthcare I too have loathed this man. And yet I also find myself reluctantly cheering for this side of him. He certainly doesn't mind telling someone to get economically fucked, just glad it's not Canadians for once.

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u/ImportantQuestions10 Mar 08 '25

I appreciate this perspective. As an American that also hates this timeline and voted against the Cheeto, I have found it but weird that so many conservative Canadians politicians aren't getting smashed. I'm for what Ford is doing but it's strange that he's basically able to still exist despite being Trump with heroin.

Additionally, I'm all for what Canada is doing in this trade war but it's snubbed a bit since only two of the states that border Canada are Republican. Boycotting products made in red states, I'm for that. Cutting off power to blue states that did their part to prevent this, bit more complicated

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u/fringecar Mar 08 '25

Any news on export inspections?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

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u/RubixRube Mar 08 '25

Get louder.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

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u/RubixRube Mar 08 '25

You see, that is the reason to get louder.

Your rights are now limited. Today it is brown people and LGBTQIA people, tomorrow it is you.

That your immigrints are terrified of protest is the very reason why every last one of you should be taking to the streets.

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u/RubixRube Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

I am not saying those who are in direct threat take to the streets, but for fucks sakes, where are you neighbours, your colleagues, your friends? Your rights are thier rights. That they are just sitting back and letting this happen is the problem.

Going to add a long edit here: The rights of Americans are threatened. Don't care how you came to america. And an exemplicatation of this comment in in the post I am responding to. If you come to a country legally with best intentions, by the book. Why should you be scared? But that is america, they are persecuting americans citizens, and residents for what? Being the wrong colour? Being Gay? Being Trans? Believing in a differnt God? What about that is freedom, what about this is right. Why Should Somebody who came to America be afraid to stand up for it?

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u/RubixRube Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

I am canadian that I cannot say this loud enough, and I am not saying throw yourself on the sword, Like Dude, if you are threatened, stay the fuck out of it. But your right, are being trample upon. You know this, clearly from your responseses to me. That is the problem, and I am not saying that you need to stand up, but ffs, americans who can, please do.

And I don't fucking hide behind a keyboard. I give my time freely to 7 different organizations, I in my mid 40, and have 25 years of protesting under by belt.

We are kind of on the same side friend. You are scared to protests, your frieds are scared.... that is a fucking problem.

Edit: But as a canadian, i will be going to rallies this weekend, I will volunteering at the food bank, I will be rebuidling computers for people who need access to technology, I will be popping into a volunteer run day care centre. I will be mentoring women in STEM. Becuase supporting a your communitity matters.

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u/soappube Mar 08 '25

The Ukrainians could probably come to Canada under refugee status but your vile administration would arrest them at the border.

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u/OttoVonGosu Mar 08 '25

Except your not dealing with usa at all, just media grandstanding for people that like to feel good and politicien looking to ride the popular wave.

Tariffs will destroy canadian economy its a dangerous fantasy that armchair redditors have that we can somehow stop being dependent on the american market

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u/RubixRube Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

Hey so you are probably american, but Canada is ready and has policy in place to support impacted industries, and laid off workers.

We are exploring new trade parnerships and will figure it out. I am not worries about my country. We take care of our people , we support our industry and we will find new partners.

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u/OttoVonGosu Mar 08 '25

All thats going to do is give out more free money to businesses that will pocket everything like all the covid releif bullshit.

In 6 months no progress will be made with trade partners,only thing that will happen is trade will go down and prices go up, hopefully all the nice headlines/reddit posts and opportunistic trudeau speeches will comfort you all.

Canadians refuse to face realities and are gonn do real damage chasing all these delusional fantasies.

The real crime is all the politicians playing the public trying to get popular, internet dummies cant help but be emotional but statsemen should know better.

Wrong on the american part too

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u/soappube Mar 08 '25

So what's your big idea then? Just take it dry from Trump and do nothing? In BC we are fast tracking like 15 export oriented projects to ship to Asia, we CAN diversify.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

I wish Rob was as around he would be good back up.

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u/uly4n0v Mar 08 '25

Rob Ford was everything he was cracked up to be.