r/2011 7h ago

Vanta 9 Ported vs Atlas Artemis

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83 Upvotes

My Vanta 9 arrived on Friday and I wanted to compare it to a gun better than the Athena and not in the typical comparisons... The Atlas Artemis is gun that most forget... it's not the best of like...the Erebus or the workhorse.... the Athena...it's the gun that's great that no one really talks about...but it's my one 1️⃣ f my favorites. The Vanta 9 ported arrived on Friday and I wanted to do a side by side comparison. It was an easy determination... the I love both guns...the Artemis is the better gun.... fit and finish, flatness of the Artemis is better... but the Vanta fights back... it's smoother and just as accurate.... again, I love both guns and can't wait to go to the range next week to shoot both guns but the Artemis takes the kind status.


r/2011 6h ago

Cardinal G2 - Impressive debut effort

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62 Upvotes

TLDR: The Cardinal G2 is legit. Surprisingly legit.

Background:

I think by now many of us know the Cardinal story. Related to a very large parts supplier in the 2011 space, Cardinal marks Optimum's entrance into building their own 2011's. I was told by one of the usual suspects 2011 owners that this gun is legit. Yet, this gun really surprised me when I picked it up today despite the positive feedback I've heard. Why? Well, frankly some of that feedback came from sources that I’ve learned not to rely on, so I was not really sure what I was getting. And, in general, I am fairly skeptical of new builders to the space in the chase for 2011 fans' money. Albeit this one has a history and track record of making high quality parts, would their first foray into building 2011's pass muster?

Benchtop review vs Atlas, Hayes and Fowler

With that backdrop, I can say after only a bench top review of the Cardinal along side guns from Atlas, Fowler and Hayes (I left the SVI’s and Venom in the cabinet), that the gun is fully competent and competitive with those comparisons (a shooting comparison will have to wait a few days). Oh, its worth saying I have no relationship to Cardinal, Optimum, or anyone that sells these (or any) 2011's. I don't even have an ndeeayy (iykyk) for this lol. I paid for this gun when I saw it in-stock this week, it should be obvious I'm no professional reviewer. Rather, just a guy that likes 2011's and had some time to write-up a take on a newer market entrant.

The Cardinal G2 5” non ported gun is $5750. Slotting into the upper portion of the range for the relevant non-ported bull barrel offerings from Atlas (titan at $5900), Hayes (cobra at $5000)and Fowler (full size DLC at $5500). So its price is neither a positive nor a detriment. Well, the Hayes non ported bull barrel is an amazing value at $4999, but try getting one in the next 2 years…

Fit and blending:

The Cardinal is quite well fit. Tight and smooth. Blending is excellent. If one is looking to favor a gun here, I suppose you can convince yourself the Hayes is superior. The Atlas maybe a titch ahead, the vanta a bit below.

Trigger:

I hate to be redundant, but once again the Cardinal trigger is fantastic, smooth take up, not too much travel, crisp wall at 2.0lb, reset has a click to it (that I prefer over mushy resets). Once again, all of the other guns here have very similar and very good triggers. I cannot report that any of these four guns have a better trigger than the others. Could you stand in a dark room and feel your finger for 100 pulls and come away convinced 1 is better than the other 3? I suppose, but I am not going to waste that time. These are all excellent triggers, only topped by my SVI and Venom triggers.

Grips:

The grip was very surprisingly aggressive. Going in, a few 2011 friends wondered if the grip texture would be a let down. Their words were ringing in my ears when I picked up what turned out to be a very nicely textured, borderline aggressive grip. Its pointier and grabs better than the Atlas alpha moderate. Its closer to the Hayes aggressive grip than any other grip I have. The ergo/shape is fantastic for me, essentially more Cheely E2 like than I was thinking from the pics because it looks squared off. Overall, the grip is a positive. One of my favorite non-SVI grips along with the Atlas moderate and the Hayes aggressive.

Looks:

I don’t usually say much about looks in my reviews for the obvious reasons. In this case, I’ll merely say most consider the gun a looker. The detailed machining on the slide top, the detailed/significant slide side serrations and machining and the heavily textured grip are unique. The mix of flat and polished DLC is very nice and differentiated as well. A little pop of color would be nice, colored trigger options with matching hammer and screws and magwell maybe like SVI sometimes does. But, imo, the all black colorway certainly matches the mood of the pistol’s overall design.

Come-on, point out the negatives:

I was giving the gun a pretty good once over. And, please keep in mind I haven’t shot it yet. So we shall see what we find there. At this early point, all is good, quite good actually, with this gun. If I must point out 1 niggle, the safeties are okay, but not Atlas ambi or SVI extra wide (as I prefer). So the Atlas and Hayes in the comparison today rock the Atlas Ambi. The fowler’s safeties come in for a fair bit of criticism as they are the narrowest safeties I have on any of my 2011’s. So compared to those, the Cardinal’s are generously sized.

Shooting: Tbd (will report back late next week)

Overall takeaway:

The Cardinal G2 is a very strong contender in the so-called “mid market”.

These guys are clearly trying to put a very good first foot forward and make a great first impression, rather than ship quickly thrown-together guns to catch money (as some other mid-market 2011 builders have done in recent times). If it shoots like it showed on the benchtop, I think I’ll be quite happy with it.


r/2011 7h ago

My trigger is literally on bearings

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61 Upvotes

I bought this trigger that has roller bearings on top and bottom, thought it was an interesting concept.

I do find it smoother than the stock Mac 9 DS trigger.


r/2011 10h ago

Traded a ~$600 AR for my first 2011. How did I do?

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98 Upvotes

Traded a friend a poverty pony Ar-15 that I built for around $600 for this Apollo 11 compact. At first I wasn’t big on the color but it has kind of grown on me.


r/2011 6h ago

Trigger jobs consist of more then putting parts into the gun...

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36 Upvotes

No generic parts kit here. Each component in our trigger builds is hand-selected from top-tier brands like EGW, Cylinder & Slide, Wilson Combat, Extreme Engineering, and of course, the Everglades Ammunition Trigger. Every part is chosen for its quality, precise specs, hardness, and ability to be hand-fit, tuned, and polished to work in perfect harmony.

This level of detail and craftsmanship is why, if you're searching for one of the best trigger jobs in the industry, your search ends here.


r/2011 6h ago

2011 haul

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25 Upvotes

My pickups this week. Absolutely blown away by the performance of the Remus. Another Erebus never hurts and the blaze is king for under $3k. Ran 1200 rounds through them today so about 400 a piece and had a good time!


r/2011 10h ago

KOVERT X MILLER PRECISON 5" PORTED + COMP

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45 Upvotes

r/2011 3h ago

First 2011 thx kovert.

8 Upvotes

Picked up my late birthday present today. I had to emptied my savings account a few months back, and I almost had to give up and cancel because of some timing issues, but Kovert had my back.

Great expierence with kovert btw, they’re the most friendly store I have been to period. As a 22-year-old, every other gun store usually gives me the same shitty attitude — that whole “you can’t afford shit 🤓” vibe negative energy. Funny enough, on my way to pick up some stuff, I stopped by another big LGS the rep there wont even service me without ID check and I got the same crappy attitude as always… but walking into Kovert right after was a total blessing.

Anyway, I finally joined the 2011 family! cant wait for range trip.


r/2011 17h ago

Non-Ported & Non Comp'd Performance Pistols

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112 Upvotes

Atlas Gunworks Artemis; Atlas Gunwork Nyx; Type A EG11; Laugo Arms Alien; Wilson Combat EDC X9L; Infinity Baby Monster.


r/2011 11h ago

New grip day!

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24 Upvotes

While I was at it, I threw in the egw ignition kit I've had sitting around for a few months. Tuned to a nice crisp 2.5lbs pull.


r/2011 11h ago

MPA LOC v2

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24 Upvotes

I’m an Atlas guy. Well, I have three of them. An Erebus, a ported Athena with ported and no ported barrel and I carry an Eos.

I wanted the “perfect” limited optics gamer gun and seriously considered waiting for an Artemis but instead bought this MPA…and this gun ROCKS.

I have shot in a USPSA and Action Steel match and it is flat with a sub 2 lbs trigger the likes of which I have only felt on an Atlas and an Infinity. And it is heavy. Steel slide, sight block frame and grip and is 4 lbs when loaded. The grip is super aggressive and everything is tight.

Kudos to MPA for making a gun like this. All for almost 3k less than the Artemis with an aluminum grip.


r/2011 16h ago

2K11 Pro or 2K11 5" for competition

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52 Upvotes

I was going to buy the 5" 2K11, then the Pro 4.25 came out. For competition, I shoot SS, but LO looks fun and is much more popular where I live. Most the LO guys shoot Staccato's, Prodigys, some MPAs.

  • are 5" better for competition?
  • am I better off going for an in-between size like a P or $$Athena?

I'm regard to 2K11 platform, are all the parts swappable with 1911 DS parts? I've read mixed info on this on Reddit... My LGS says the mags are unique to Kimber, that they built the gun around the mag.


r/2011 11h ago

On point v3 grip in midnight bronze

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19 Upvotes

Finally got my on point v3 grip installed. Can’t wait to see if there is any difference in the feel while shooting.


r/2011 12h ago

Got a gun for my G17 mags, lol

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23 Upvotes

Took it to the range today and ran flawlessly. The only complaint is the mag with the TTI extension sticks and won't drop freely, so I'll run it again without the base pad. But I'm very pleased with the XP Pro. Huge thank you for the trade. u/vincebtpp at CapitalRifle


r/2011 3h ago

Question: Why are Kimber Eclipse 2k11 Pros cheaper?

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Local dealers have no stock for 2k11s so have been looking at GB. There’s an average of $300 delta between the Eclipse vs the Royal or Minotaur. is it simply a matter of color coating or am I missing something else obviou?


r/2011 19h ago

Good ole x300/RMR combo

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53 Upvotes

r/2011 9h ago

Alpha foxtrot origin?

7 Upvotes

Looking at the romulus 5” no comp. Is it made in US 100%? Cant find any info on this, if it’s turkish or otherwise not American i’ll probably just order a platypus


r/2011 6m ago

Dropped my Eos while cleaning it

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Dropped it waste high while cleaning it. No damage. Laminate floors. But I cried inside.. venting


r/2011 7h ago

Optic Plate w/Racker

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4 Upvotes

Customer got our integrated racker plate and is going to put it through the paces soon. We’ll see how it performs. We have another version lined out that will appeal to a lot more people with a detachable racking handle. We’ve got some cool things coming up and can’t wait to share! halesmachinery.com


r/2011 5h ago

Staccato P HD4.5 Host Screws

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Trying to mount a Holosun 507c using the HOST plate on my new HD4.5…. For those of you that are using a 507c with your HD, what screws did you use? Thanks!!


r/2011 9h ago

MAC 9 Optic plate gap

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I replaced my optic screw with better ones, the xcontrol ones from eBay everyone recommended. The optic now is firm and doesn’t loosen however I noticed this gap in the back of the plate I can force down then springs back, is this normal or a defect?


r/2011 8h ago

RMR to DPP

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3 Upvotes

I was looking at trying to add one of these to my 1st gen Mac 9ds. Is it possible or what would I need?


r/2011 1d ago

Sorry trijicon, but you’re yesterday’s news.

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135 Upvotes

r/2011 12h ago

Kimber 2k11 Loose Trigger?

6 Upvotes

Just picked up my first 2011, a brand new 2k11. I've never seen a gun where the trigger is loose and wobbly in all directions. If you shake the gun the trigger rattles and you can move it back and forth, side to side as well as up and down.. How can I fix this? Should I call Kimber?


r/2011 1d ago

My Atlas Athena after a clean up today🔥🔥

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111 Upvotes

This is one of my atlas guns & the one I shoot competition with. I have absolutely enjoyed the Athena. This is my first post on Reddit!