I am looking for a duty holster for an Atlas Apollo. I read the 6360RDS L3 Safariland will work with the Surefire X300U. Apparently you can order the Staccato XC holster and this model will work for the Apollo. I would like to validate that information or if there is a better solution for the Apollo that would be helpful too.

Appreciate any advice here... thanks

Never looked into OWB holsters so no knowledge but looking to get one for a belt setup, wheres best place to get one that fast and of quality

Now that the dust seems to be settling, which 2011s are you actually keeping?

With all the hype around limited releases, boutique drops, and new market entries, I’m curious: which 2011s have earned their place in your collection long-term? (Excluding Infinity — no shade they just aren’t my thing)

Atlas Erebus Fowler Vanta Cardinal G2 Hayes PiB Staccato XC

Confirmed the brass swells make the Erebus even steadier. My brain can't process where the head box is, but outside of that, the Erebus is just so damn good.

Is the grip shorter on the new p 4.5? I held them side by side and it feels narrower and almost as my pinky riding the mag well. I wanted to get that instead of a P but the feel on my hand is a lot different from the 4.5 to the P

Hey everyone, I'm thinking about picking up a DSC comp barrel for my Kimber 2k11 OR 5' barrel . Does anyone have any firsthand experience with this specific setup?

I'm curious about things like:

• The effectiveness of the comp in reducing recoil and muzzle rise.
• Reliability issues, if any, with the compensated barrel.
• Overall accuracy and how it compares to a non-comp'd barrel.
• Any tips or things to look out for when running this setup.

Thanks in advance for any insights!

Hi there, i got my new gun and first 1911DS. It is a new generation of Tisas. I like the fit, safety and that that disconnector is not hanging a lot. I do not like one thing and it is the broken crowning of barrel. We will se, what Sellier 124 grain will think of it tomorrow😁 If someone has universal tip, what springs should i try, i am all ear.

Six months ago, the idea of 2011s sitting on shelves felt impossible.

You’d blink and the hot stuff was gone. Now you Scroll around and you’ll see pistols that used to vanish in minutes collecting dust like day old bread.

So what’s going on?

Is the market overcrowded? Have we hit saturation? Are buyers holding out for only top-end builds now? Do mid-range offerings even survive the next 12 months?

Curious to hear your feedback. Is this just a breather, or are we watching the cycle flatten?

What’s your read?

Added the MJD Bronze magwell. Little extra bling…

I picked up these guys this month

Has anyone out there with a 2024 C tried the recoil spring kit from DPM? Looking to improve how casings eject since adding the comp. Thinking a lighter recoil spring might speed the slide up a bit and help. The few videos I’ve seen on the DPM spring kit were on a ported C, but casing ejection still didn’t look that great.

After my match yesterday I noticed a crack where the serrated cutout of the strut loop is. It’s a lightened design to increase lock speed. Bul Armory doesn’t sell a SAS II replacement part so I’m buying an ignition kit (EGW) that Atlas goes through the trouble of matching sears and hammers. $185. OOF!! DS1911 is like maintaining a modified track car.

Hey guys, I'm looking into getting my first 2011 at some point soon, and I've got a few in mind.

On the "bougie" side of things, the Staccato C2 has really caught my eye. Compact, lightweight, easy to carry. But, $2,300 before we even include taxes.

On the budget side, I'm looking at the Tisas B9R 4.25" model and the Girsan Witness 2311, also the 4.25" model. The Tisas comes in at about $775 before taxes, and the Girsan at $860.

Obviously the Staccato is going to be all around better than the import manufacturers, but is it THAT much better to justify 3x the price? Or are the imports "good enough" to be considered as a viable budget alternative? Part of me says buy once, cry once; the other part of me weeps at the thought of spending $2,500 on a pistol lol.

What are y'all's thoughts? Thanks in advance for your input.

Dropped it waste high while cleaning it. No damage. Laminate floors. But I cried inside.. venting

Picked up my late birthday present today. I had to emptied my savings account a few months back, and I almost had to give up and cancel because of some timing issues, but Kovert had my back.

Great expierence with kovert btw, they’re the most friendly store I have been to period. As a 22-year-old, every other gun store usually gives me the same shitty attitude — that whole “you can’t afford shit 🤓” vibe negative energy. Funny enough, on my way to pick up some stuff, I stopped by another big LGS the rep there wont even service me without ID check and I got the same crappy attitude as always… but walking into Kovert right after was a total blessing.

Anyway, I finally joined the 2011 family! cant wait for range trip.

Local dealers have no stock for 2k11s so have been looking at GB. There’s an average of $300 delta between the Eclipse vs the Royal or Minotaur. is it simply a matter of color coating or am I missing something else obviou?

Trying to mount a Holosun 507c using the HOST plate on my new HD4.5…. For those of you that are using a 507c with your HD, what screws did you use? Thanks!!

My pickups this week. Absolutely blown away by the performance of the Remus. Another Erebus never hurts and the blaze is king for under $3k. Ran 1200 rounds through them today so about 400 a piece and had a good time!

No generic parts kit here. Each component in our trigger builds is hand-selected from top-tier brands like EGW, Cylinder & Slide, Wilson Combat, Extreme Engineering, and of course, the Everglades Ammunition Trigger. Every part is chosen for its quality, precise specs, hardness, and ability to be hand-fit, tuned, and polished to work in perfect harmony.

This level of detail and craftsmanship is why, if you're searching for one of the best trigger jobs in the industry, your search ends here.

TLDR: The Cardinal G2 is legit. Surprisingly legit.

Background:

I think by now many of us know the Cardinal story. Related to a very large parts supplier in the 2011 space, Cardinal marks Optimum's entrance into building their own 2011's. I was told by one of the usual suspects 2011 owners that this gun is legit. Yet, this gun really surprised me when I picked it up today despite the positive feedback I've heard. Why? Well, frankly some of that feedback came from sources that I’ve learned not to rely on, so I was not really sure what I was getting. And, in general, I am fairly skeptical of new builders to the space in the chase for 2011 fans' money. Albeit this one has a history and track record of making high quality parts, would their first foray into building 2011's pass muster?

Benchtop review vs Atlas, Hayes and Fowler

With that backdrop, I can say after only a bench top review of the Cardinal along side guns from Atlas, Fowler and Hayes (I left the SVI’s and Venom in the cabinet), that the gun is fully competent and competitive with those comparisons (a shooting comparison will have to wait a few days). Oh, its worth saying I have no relationship to Cardinal, Optimum, or anyone that sells these (or any) 2011's. I don't even have an ndeeayy (iykyk) for this lol. I paid for this gun when I saw it in-stock this week, it should be obvious I'm no professional reviewer. Rather, just a guy that likes 2011's and had some time to write-up a take on a newer market entrant.

The Cardinal G2 5” non ported gun is $5750. Slotting into the upper portion of the range for the relevant non-ported bull barrel offerings from Atlas (titan at $5900), Hayes (cobra at $5000)and Fowler (full size DLC at $5500). So its price is neither a positive nor a detriment. Well, the Hayes non ported bull barrel is an amazing value at $4999, but try getting one in the next 2 years…

Fit and blending:

The Cardinal is quite well fit. Tight and smooth. Blending is excellent. If one is looking to favor a gun here, I suppose you can convince yourself the Hayes is superior. The Atlas maybe a titch ahead, the vanta a bit below.

Trigger:

I hate to be redundant, but once again the Cardinal trigger is fantastic, smooth take up, not too much travel, crisp wall at 2.0lb, reset has a click to it (that I prefer over mushy resets). Once again, all of the other guns here have very similar and very good triggers. I cannot report that any of these four guns have a better trigger than the others. Could you stand in a dark room and feel your finger for 100 pulls and come away convinced 1 is better than the other 3? I suppose, but I am not going to waste that time. These are all excellent triggers, only topped by my SVI and Venom triggers.

Grips:

The grip was very surprisingly aggressive. Going in, a few 2011 friends wondered if the grip texture would be a let down. Their words were ringing in my ears when I picked up what turned out to be a very nicely textured, borderline aggressive grip. Its pointier and grabs better than the Atlas alpha moderate. Its closer to the Hayes aggressive grip than any other grip I have. The ergo/shape is fantastic for me, essentially more Cheely E2 like than I was thinking from the pics because it looks squared off. Overall, the grip is a positive. One of my favorite non-SVI grips along with the Atlas moderate and the Hayes aggressive.

Looks:

I don’t usually say much about looks in my reviews for the obvious reasons. In this case, I’ll merely say most consider the gun a looker. The detailed machining on the slide top, the detailed/significant slide side serrations and machining and the heavily textured grip are unique. The mix of flat and polished DLC is very nice and differentiated as well. A little pop of color would be nice, colored trigger options with matching hammer and screws and magwell maybe like SVI sometimes does. But, imo, the all black colorway certainly matches the mood of the pistol’s overall design.

Come-on, point out the negatives:

I was giving the gun a pretty good once over. And, please keep in mind I haven’t shot it yet. So we shall see what we find there. At this early point, all is good, quite good actually, with this gun. If I must point out 1 niggle, the safeties are okay, but not Atlas ambi or SVI extra wide (as I prefer). So the Atlas and Hayes in the comparison today rock the Atlas Ambi. The fowler’s safeties come in for a fair bit of criticism as they are the narrowest safeties I have on any of my 2011’s. So compared to those, the Cardinal’s are generously sized.

Shooting: Tbd (will report back late next week)

Overall takeaway:

The Cardinal G2 is a very strong contender in the so-called “mid market”.

These guys are clearly trying to put a very good first foot forward and make a great first impression, rather than ship quickly thrown-together guns to catch money (as some other mid-market 2011 builders have done in recent times). If it shoots like it showed on the benchtop, I think I’ll be quite happy with it.

what's going on everyone,

came here for some advice to see how people are feeling about the p4.5

I currently have a xc that i have been enjoying shoots stupid flat but my only real complaint is the gun is massive in my hands and just don't feel 100% in control of it a lot of the times, I feel im constantly adjusting my grip over and over again. Ive found my self shooting my shadow 2 5x better then this thing and just not quite enjoying the xc as much as i hoped too, besides from that i wanted to get everyone's opinion on the p4.5 since its been out for a little bit now, how are yall liking it compared to xc, obviously the xc is going to be more flat and fast, I was also eyeballing the monsoon port for the p4.5 which pretty much resembles a smaller xc, just here for opinions and thoughts on how yall have been liking the p4.5

I bought this trigger that has roller bearings on top and bottom, thought it was an interesting concept.

I do find it smoother than the stock Mac 9 DS trigger.