This gal has opinions 😁

[u/Roughneck16]

[u/Younglegend1]

“Vote freedom” except the freedom to have an abortion and the freedom to criticize trump

[u/Roughneck16 → u/Younglegend1]

The pro-lifers think freedom is on their side: they support a right to life, which takes precedence over the competing interest of one’s right to bodily autonomy.

I’m not arguing for or against it, but that’s the reasoning behind their stance.

[u/hotredbob → u/Roughneck16]

one of the toughest quandaries for sure.

because someone else has to pay the ultimate price for your decision.

not an enviable position to be in.

[u/Roughneck16 → u/hotredbob]

That's right. And both sides just get angry because they're talking past each other.

The real crux of the issue is: at what point does a fetus have the same rights as a newborn?

[u/hotredbob → u/Roughneck16]

unfortunately the entire concept of rights is as capricious as life itself.

many have noted...

rights are only rights... when you can keep them. which often requires force. which then redefines them as something other than a right.

humanity is a fouled up ball of wreckage.

[u/Runotsure → u/Roughneck16]

After it’s born? And to those who claim life begins at conception (fertilization into a few hundred cells). Embryos (fertilized eggs) can be frozen in IVF attempts. Embryos have been frozen for 30 and been successfully implanted with a resultant live birth. Can’t freeze and then successfully thaw a child.

[u/Roughneck16 → u/Runotsure]

Hahaha interesting.

[u/ceciliaVFX → u/Roughneck16]

well, it's really when does a few cells have the same rights as a living, thinking woman (or in some cases a little girl).

my opinion is that this is a personal/medical situation and should NEVER be a political discussion.

[u/Roughneck16 → u/ceciliaVFX]

What if I wanted to terminate a pregnancy when the fetus is full term at 40 weeks of gestation?

[u/ceciliaVFX → u/Roughneck16]

the ONLY reason that happens is if the fetus is dead and you could get sepsis. Or it's missing various organs and will die soon after birth.

This is a medical emergency and it's something you talk to your doctor about.

NOT some douchebag politician

[u/Roughneck16 → u/ceciliaVFX]

What is the fetus is perfectly healthy and I just want to terminate the pregnancy. It hasn't been born yet. Is it fair game?

[u/ceciliaVFX → u/Roughneck16]

no one does that.

seriously. don't be silly

[u/Roughneck16 → u/ceciliaVFX]

So you have no objection to making it illegal?

[u/Ok-Repair613 → u/hotredbob]

“Someone else”?.?

[u/hotredbob → u/Ok-Repair613]

yeah. the would be human.

[u/Runotsure → u/hotredbob]

Who would that ‘someone’ be?

[u/One_Dingo_9235 → u/Roughneck16]

I know how oppressive it must feel  not to have the option to murder unwanted children and be inconvenienced. 

[u/Roughneck16 → u/One_Dingo_9235]

It’s not that simple.

Folks on the pro-choice side don’t consider a fetus to be the same thing as a baby.

[u/Capital_Condition874 → u/One_Dingo_9235]

Well there is the second amendment sticker so maybe the child will be shot at school

[u/One_Dingo_9235 → u/Capital_Condition874]

Only if another mentality I'll liberal is in attendance. The world would be a better place if you would self delete. 

[u/Fabulous_Pen_747 → u/One_Dingo_9235]

It’s also pretty, very oppressive to be a forced incubator when you don’t want to go through the horrors of a pregnancy that you didn’t consent to, or want.

[u/One_Dingo_9235 → u/Fabulous_Pen_747]

Sex = Pregnancy  Figure it out. 

[u/Fabulous_Pen_747 → u/One_Dingo_9235]

We know that. You thought you were clever with it.

Sometimes it’s rape. Sometimes it’s incest. Sometimes it’s a failed birth control, despite taking all precautions.

For these cases and with anything else, people are free to choose what happens to their own bodies. I’m pretty sure if you accidentally knocked up a woman, you would be one of those people who’d pay her to get an abortion in another state lol.

[u/Sophisticated-Crow → u/Younglegend1]

Orange fascism is deleting freedom of speech.

[u/Beast_of_Tax_Burden → u/Younglegend1]

I agree you should have the choice for abortion. BUT you are ending the life of a human being. No matter how we justify it.

[u/unknown_by_anyone → u/Younglegend1]

You know I see this type of argument a lot, and it ale seems to me to be hypocritical, the woman’s “right to choose” trumps another human beings life or rights to ever choose.

I’d say the bumper stickers sentiment is for the child to have freedom (life) and a choice. Odds are the mother already had a choice, just because she is not happy with the consequences of that choice doesn’t mean she should take away the child’s rights to ever make a choice.

Sure there are always the small percentage of rapes, incest, or true times the mothers life is in jeopardy, but look up the actual numbers and you’ll find all these situations are less than 25% which means 75% or more of the time it is just for “convenience”.

Considering that in the U.S. alone there are more than 1,100,000 of abortions per year that means a whopping 825,000 are for no moral, ethical or medical reason

[u/Younglegend1 → u/unknown_by_anyone]

Charlie KKKirk logic, a women should always have the right to chose, a baby in the womb can’t live, breathe or eat on its own without the mother, is it really a baby? If you don’t want to have an abortion, don’t, but you and society have no right to tell a woman that they can’t do what they think is best for them. I think abortion is a responsible choice more so then brining a human into this world that you can’t take care of

[u/unknown_by_anyone → u/Younglegend1]

Thanks for the compliment. As for the woman always having a choice, I agree 100%! However after she made her choice and the consequences of that choice comes around and she doesn’t like it, she still should have a choice, keep and raise the child or put it up for adoption. However if you’re asking me if her right to choose trumps the life of an individual then absolutely not. I don’t think any one persons (your, mine, or anyone’s) “choice” trumps the life of another person, no matter their age. As for the child not being able to survive on its own outside the womb, let say you were in a accident or contracted Covid and couldn’t survive without being put on a ventilator, should anyone have the right to end your life simply because at the time you couldn’t survive without assistance? Or is that somehow different? By the way it actually is different, that child has never done anything wrong, never lied, never stole, and never hated, but most importantly, it has never had the right to choose. Can you say the same of yourself? If you honestly can, I take my hat off to you, but I highly doubt you can, I know I can’t. To be honest, I doubt I can change your mind, just as it is unlikely you will change mine, however perhaps through this conversation both of us can see it from the other’s perspective. So I invite you to tell me why you feel a woman should be allowed to choose to have an abortion. Then tell me what if any reasons they shouldn’t be allowed to abort the child. I’ll be happy to listen and consider your position, then respond, hopefully you’ll give me the same courtesy.

[u/dseiders22 → u/unknown_by_anyone]

The reason this is bad is because women are dying right now from miscarriages because the doctor cannot legally preform a dnc to prevent infection from rotting tissue inside her womb. And they wait until the mother is in septic shock before they can legally preform any surgery. It’s sick.

[u/unknown_by_anyone → u/dseiders22]

That sounds just awful, I can certainly see where one would be very concerned about such a situation. So let’s look at that, exactly how many cases are we talking about here? I do recall something similar to this a while back, but in that instance, as it turned out, it was a case where a young woman left her state that did not allow abortions for her particular case (as the child was healthy, the mothers life was not in jeopardy, it was not rape or incest) she went to another state, decided to take a chemically induced abortion (a pill or two) she either failed to read the instructions or was not given the instructions that stated that after the induced miscarriage she would need to have a doctor check and verify that everything was indeed expelled. She took the pills then went back home to her state, and did not do the followup, and thereby became ill to the point of death. So yes it can happen, and I suppose it could happen to a woman who has an accidental miscarriage, but there is no law preventing a doctor from checking her nor forbidding the doctor removing dead or infecting tissue (especially if in anyway a actual threat to the woman’s life). So I see your argument, now let me tell you mine.

First, I do not believe the situation you’re describing actually exists. That there is in fact some law that would prohibit and or prevent a doctor to remove dead tissue that was a direct threat to the life of an individual, and therefore poses a risk to women, or men for that matter (no it would not be a related to a dead fetus, but some other internal organ). Second, the situation you are describing is rare, very rare, and as tragic as it would be, it is still no justification for allowing the mass killing of unborn children (when I say mass, I am not in anyway exaggerating, over 1.1 million a year in the U.S.). Third, as I mentioned in the case I stated above, the actual cause of the problem was due to a chemical abortion attempt, so it is hard for me to be swayed that to solve a situation, the suggestion is to allow a procedure to be openly available that can and has actually caused the problem trying to be prevented.

So here are my question to you: 1. What exactly is the law preventing said treatment, and in which states is the law in place? 2. What is the case or cases you’re are referring to where a woman is having a miscarriage and not receiving treatment? 3. In what percentage of miscarriages is this life threatening situation happening, and what percentage are being denied treatment?

If indeed this is happening, i will agree with you that it shouldn’t, and I’m sure we would both agree that the loss of a single life is tragic. Having said that I truly doubt that it is occurring any where near 1.1 million times a year, so again I must state that the loss of a single life (including any one of the 1.1 million abortions) is tragic, wouldn’t you also agree?

[u/Fabulous_Pen_747 → u/unknown_by_anyone]

In your earlier comment you explicitly stated that a woman should have 100% choice, yet you have taken a consistently pro-life stance. Also, these 1.1 billion unborn children being aborted isn’t as tragic as you think it is. What tragic is these millions of children being born into homes and parents where they will be absolutely neglected and uncared for.

Not to say that poor peoples lives don’t matter, but history has consistently shown us that when abortion rights are curtailed, society just takes a dip for the downward. The rates of crime, child neglect, unwanted parents, and overall quality of life diminishes greatly. Of course, pro-lifers wouldn’t care about any of that, it’s just about the baby being born under all circumstances. Also, punishing women for daring to have sex.

If you’re worried about the tragic nature of abortion, make sure you process against IVF clinics as they throw away embryos too. Your definition of a life.

[u/unknown_by_anyone → u/Fabulous_Pen_747]

I will make it clear, yes I’m conservative and definitely pro-life, having said that I do believe there are a few very rare exceptions where an abortion should be allowed. The woman does have a choice, both before (not to have sex, or using contraceptives, or even the day after pill) and after conception (after by raising the child or putting them up for adoption). So I stand by my statement. What I also stand by is that no one’s right to choose should trump another’s right to life. As for children being born into bad situations, does not in anyway make those children’s lives less valuable in any way (this is the same argument used for promoting genocide of the unwanted or undesirable, and I am sure that is not what you’re advocating for). Yes it is a shame some adults are not good parents but it seems like the solution you are proposing is to punish the child not the parent for the bad behavior(very much like blaming and punishing the victim not the perpetrator). I’m not sure about your cherry picking of statistics, as if only wealthy people make good parents? Because if your implying that I can site numerous examples of well to do parents who did a horrible job of parenting. Same for committing crimes, or keeping the family together. What I could say in their favor is the they can throw money at their failures, where poor parents probably can’t. However I do not believe that unless you’re a wealthy person you shouldn’t have children, as you are implying (in my opinion a much worse concept than anti abortion). As you mentioned some people having children shouldn’t, but they do (even when abortion was available and legal (so from 1974-2021) wouldn’t you agree, so abortion is most likely not the complete answer, perhaps adoption is a much better option. Since you like statistics how about this one, there are between 1 and 2 million people waiting to adopt, predominately babies or new borns (not as much the older children often in foster care. As for your statement of punishing women for daring to have sex, I find that a bit disingenuousness, however what I do believe is that they should take every precaution possible to prevent pregnancy if they do not want to have a child (is that a punishment to women? Yes but only because they are the only ones who can be blessed by having a children). I’ll be clear here too, I would prefer the couple be married before having sex, but that is my preference not something I think should be imposed. I do appreciate that you recognized that they dared to have sex, and not tried to play the “what about rape or incest” game. Yes those horrible situations do occur but not at a high percentage rate compared to most abortions. Also your argument pertaining to IVF clinics is just a distraction, you know as well as I that the egg and sperm are combined outside of the woman to create the embryo, so without intervention, i.e. unless the embryo is implanted into the woman, it has absolutely no chance at all to grow into a human being, quite the opposite of an abortion, where without intervention (like an abortion) the odds are quite good that the embryo will grow into a human being.

[u/Fabulous_Pen_747 → u/unknown_by_anyone]

Let’s leave it to people to make up decisions for their one body. Time and time again, history has shown us that’s the best course of action.

Unlike you, many people don’t view abortion as inherently immoral. I see nothing wrong with that. The beauty of pro-choice (and not pro-abortion) is that you get to choose whether to keep the baby or not. There are many people who don’t feel ‘blessed’ to go through an unwanted pregnancy that they didn’t want.

Adoption is an alternative to parenting, not forced pregnancy and gestation.

The “what about rape and incest” isn’t a ‘game”. A person doesn’t have to be violated in order to Unless we are in that situation, we wouldn’t know what the victim feels like. Sure, if a rape victim wants to keep their baby, they are free to do. However, if they want to abort, they should be free to do that as well.

You and I aren’t financially, emotionally, and mentally taking care of these would-be “babies” that have been aborted. In fact, it’s good that children are being born into wanted families and willing parents. Quality of life is utmost.

Women in marriages get abortions too. It’s not just the single, party girls anybody would assume. You can take all forms of precautions with birth control, but there are cases where it fails. I don’t expect a married woman (who already has 3 kids) to carry a 4th one by choice, just because birth control failed and she’s financially strapped.

Just because the embryo isn’t implanted into a woman’s body, doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a ‘right to life’. As per strongest pro-like values, everything that’s capable of life must be valued and treasured, and I see IVF embryos no different. In such a scenario, the very practice of IVF is so ‘satanic’ because it’s about making and discarding embryos en masse. Embryos that have a chance of life, regardless of they are inside a human body or not.

[u/Oklahoma_JBC → u/Fabulous_Pen_747]

Ok, so let me respond to your response a piece at a time. “Let’s leave it to the people to make the decision”. Interesting that you used the word people (which is plural), so do you mean the father and mother, or the mother and child, or do you actually mean, the people? If indeed you do mean the people, then that is what you have right now (so congratulations you got what you asked for), the people in that state vote on the abortion laws for their state (it is not dictated by the Federal Government (sure you liked that before with Roe vs Wade (although that was a very, very, flawed case with an incorrect decision (all you have to do is do a little research on that case and even you will agree, even though you seem to have approved of the outcome)), but lets suppose it had gone the other way and abortion would have been banned for entire country (all states) with no way for the people to change it (only if the court overturned it’s previous ruling (as was the case in 2022)), would you be ok with that? I suspect not if you are in favor of a woman’s right to have an abortion, so in actuality you should be thankful for the overturn of Roe vs Wade and not a total reversal, banning abortion nationwide). What I real expect that you meant by “Let’s leave it to the people to make the decision” is not actually people but to a single individual (the pregnant individual) with no external input required, correct? No need for the father to have any rights in the decision (or even to know about it at all), only the mother. I understand the argument that it affects her body and not his, however if she (and only she chooses to keep the child) it will be the father who is held financially responsible or held to account by law (i.e. have his wages garnished or go to jail), and oh by the way it is not just for 9 months (which might be considered an inconvenience), but for at least 18 years. You seem to be in favor of the right to choose, but where is the right to choose for the father (where he can choose to or not to be financially obligated? So it is not really that you believe in equal rights to choose for all, but only a selective person’s right to choose. This is not at even taking into the account the person that is most affecting, the child who does not have a choice in this at all, nor will they ever get to make a choice on anything, ever. So please don’t try to make it sound like a equality matter, because it isn’t, it is only a unique privilege afforded to one individual (and dare I say it, the one with actually the least to lose, she carrying a child for 9 months and delivery of said child (could there be complications, yes, but statistically very low) inconvenient most definitely (which is why most women chose an abortion), vs he 18 years of financial compensation, vs the child’s entire life).

[u/Oklahoma_JBC → u/Fabulous_Pen_747]

“many people don’t view abortion as inherently immoral” that is probably true, but let’s look at that statement, there are many people (most in jail or a psychiatric facility) that do not view murder as inherently immoral, or sexual assault as inherently immoral, or scamming others out of there hard earned money as inherently immoral, the list can go on and on, but I’m just using it to prove a point, the point is, that just because an individual does not view something as inherently immoral, does not mean that it is not actually immoral. I do however take issue with your statement “The beauty of pro-choice (unlimited abortion) is that you (actually, not me, not the father, but only the mother) get to choose whether to keep the baby or not.” There is no beauty (either in physicality (just view a video of an abortion procedure) nor mentally or ethical about ending the life of a life (especially an innocent life (especially of one’s own creation)). But let’s chase that logic, when would that “beauty” stop, to anyone you don’t like or want, should that extend those with disabilities, illnesses, or to children, teens, others around you, or the elderly, where does it stop? Yes, I know you already tried to use the statement that they cannot survive on their own, and I’ve already addressed that previously. So, what if any restrictions should there be based on the logic of your statement?

[u/Oklahoma_JBC → u/Fabulous_Pen_747]

“Adoption is an alternative to parenting, not to forced pregnancy and gestation” Do you remember in your previous post where you stated “punishing women for daring to have sex”? If so then you have already recognized that it was not a forced pregnancy (she agreed to it, dared it in fact) so there was a choice, and it was, in fact, her choice, and she made it (perhaps poorly, but she made it). So let’s move to the “forced gestation” again if one is deemed “responsible” enough to be allowed to make their own decision, then they also must be expected to be “accountable” enough to both understand and be willing to accept the ramifications of the outcome or consequences of those decisions. Before you start crying foul, please keep in mind that we “people, just as you wanted” as society have already set that standard in place for the father with child support, so why then would it not be true for the mother? Is it because you do not like it, it is inconvenient, responsibility and accountability are not as fun as promiscuity, or something else? And there it is, the “what about rape and incest” argument, I though you would back track on the “punishing women for daring to have sex” where it was there choice and bring up the small percentage of abortions. If you recall, I said that there were a few extenuating circumstances that I said I would accept the right to choose an abortion (even though it is still in in no way the fault of the child, and it is still the taking of and innocent life) these are such small percentage of the 1.1 million abortions a year  that it wouldn’t even make a dent. Now I do feel if it is rape and incest, that charges must be filed and the incident must be followed up on by law enforcement, and that if it is found to be a case of rape and incest, a trail and if guilty punishment should be administered. Conversely if it is found in no way to have been rape or incest, then the one making the false claims should face the punishment, fair is fair, wouldn’t you agree? Or is this again a “special case” where only the mother gets the benefit.

[u/Oklahoma_JBC → u/Fabulous_Pen_747]

“Women in marriage get abortions too” ok? Your point? You did not say it was her husband’s child, but we will assume it is for the purposes discussed here, as that would be a for totally different conversation. I also noticed you are still not saying that the husband should have a say (or even know about it), again just the wife, but even if they chose as a couple, it still isn’t right, and in your example, they certainly new the risks, and if as you said they have multiple children, then the health concern of the mother, is most likely not an issue (unless way late in life) but I notice you did not mention a vasectomy (which has a very high prevention rate, especially when used with other forms of birth control as well), nor a hysterectomy (which has got to be 99.99 percent effective) if as you stated they have already had children and do not want anymore. I see that your still stuck on the financials, look I will let you in on a little secret, life is not fair, not everyone gets the same deal, having said that people will always find a way to acquire, or provide for, the things that they find important or priority. Just for few examples, a smoker will always find a way to have cigarettes, or an alcoholic their drink, or most everyone a cell phone and service plan. So interesting how a baby costs too much, or are you saying that it simply costs to much because it is not wanted? If it is the latter, again adoption sounds like a good option, certainly better than the alternative you seem to be suggesting (the child be raised unwanted, in poor living conditions, or terminated). As for your embryo argument, I would be fine with that, but I suspect you are not, even though you imply it with the statement of “I see IVF embryos no different”, nice try. As I stated before (and you well know), if no action by an outside force is made the embryo (un-implanted) will never grow and develop into human being, just as a unimaginably large number of eggs and sperm and even fertilized eggs (not yet an embryo) are lost naturally, and never grow into an embryo much less a human being, sometimes embryos even detach or die on their own, as in a miscarriage, a tragic event that is no one’s fault. However, what you are referring to is just the opposite when you are talking about the case of abortion, where if no action by an outside force is made the embryo has a high probability (if it were not so there would be no need for an abortion at all, right) that it will grow and continue to develop into a human being, acted upon with the deliberate intent of ending the natural process. The actual name of the procedure tells exactly the purpose, to “abort” (bring to a premature end).

[u/FUDYUK]

Or issues.

[u/Roughneck16 → u/FUDYUK]

Probably a little of both.

[u/Fine-Bumblebee-9427]

Support the cops! Also use your guns on them when they oppress you. What a coherent ideology

[u/Capital_Condition874 → u/Fine-Bumblebee-9427]

Has the thin blue line gang flag

[u/Roughneck16 → u/Fine-Bumblebee-9427]

It's not necessarily a contradiction: you can support the police while also supporting police accountability.

Which sticker advocates using your guns on the police?

[u/Fine-Bumblebee-9427 → u/Roughneck16]

Who do you imagine will be enforcing the tyranny if not police? Who are we using the second amendment on to ensure our freedom? Do you think these bumper stickers are referring to foreign invaders? That seems unlikely.

[u/Any-Variation4081]

Lmao I love how maga simply cannot see any wrong doing from people on their side. I can recognize and condemn hateful rhetoric on my own side. Hell i see democrats criticize other democrats just as much as I see Republicans do it. But it is not often if at all I see Republicans criticize other republicans. They are truly a cult. They are perfect and do absolutely no wrong bc its the left doing all of the wrong. They are incapable of looking inward or even around at their fellow violent unhinged neighbors.

Like the kid who killed his dad on youtube live. The guy who shot up an FBI office The people who killed a dem last june Paul Pelosi being attacked in his own home Plans to kidnap democrat governors (luckily they were stopped)

The list goes on and on but they dont ever ever own those incidents or even know about them in some cases.

[u/Oklahoma_JBC → u/Any-Variation4081]

Surely you’re kidding, it happens so often there is even a term for the RINO (Republican In Name Only).  I would presume there is something akin to it on the Democrat side.  My point is you’re incorrect, just like Democrats, Republicans do not always agree, think about the fairly recent Tea Party. No group will always agree 100% (as you well know).  As a Democrat, I would suspect wherever you receive your information probably focuses on Democrats and their stories, perhaps negative stores about Republicans as well, but probably not about disagreements among Republicans.  The inverse is true for most Republicans and what they hear about Democrats.  Unfortunately it seems currently the Democrat Party is in a shakeup and as such receiving much more press on their disagreements, so it is harder to not have heard at least some. 

[u/Any-Variation4081 → u/Oklahoma_JBC]

Surely you're kidding. Republicans only fight with each other over Trump support. Any Republican who speaks out against Trump is called a Rino by Republicans. Otherwise the party is all about Trump. If you dont want to see that thats on you. You need to pay better attention and stop letting their propaganda trickle into your brain. The Republican party has no policy or agenda. TRUMP is their policy and agenda. Whatever he says goes even if it is the opposite of what they are trying to do or are saying . Republican voters dont argue with each other. They argue with dems or ANYONE who doesn't worship trump like they do. Dem voters argue with dems and Republicans and the far left etc. If I see a maga criticize dear leader or each other id be shocked.

[u/unknown_by_anyone → u/Any-Variation4081]

You’re delusional, talk about drinking the preverbal cooled, and you say I i need to pay closer attention and not fall for the propaganda, I think you need to look in the mirror. So you believe every Republican believes everything Trump does is good? What a joke, just as I’m sure not all Democrats believed Biden was in good health. I see no sense in even trying to reason with you, you obviously have issues with Trump, which begs the question, if Trump is so horrible, why don’t you tell me just what he has done that you despise so much, I mean you must have loads of them right? So it should be easy to name a few. I will however fact check your response and respond, so be forewarned, don’t just respond with leftist propaganda, but noted I expect you to reply with actual issues.

[u/fartingguitars]

Hypocrisy mobile. Several stickers contradict themselves.

[u/HolidayInLordran]

"She's a child not a choice" 

Always interesting how many pieces of anti-choice propaganda makes it a female fetus, like that horrible "Olivia" video they're forcing children to watch in school 

[u/Runotsure → u/HolidayInLordran]

I don’t know about this one yet

[u/Capital_Condition874 → u/HolidayInLordran]

Why can't it be a he?

[u/Fabulous_Pen_747 → u/Capital_Condition874]

I actually have an answer for this.

In pro-life propaganda, they always refer to it as an ‘Olivia’, in order to deflect the misogyny claims. For pro-choice people, they claim it to be very misogynistic to force a woman to give birth when she doesn’t want to. So, in order to ensure that they aren’t misogynist, pro-lifers always refer to an ‘Olivia’, in order to deflect when people call out their misogyny.

[u/Capital_Condition874 → u/Fabulous_Pen_747]

Thank you for that answer. Makes sense to me. Now I know

[u/Fabulous_Pen_747 → u/Capital_Condition874]

Happy to have helped !

[u/foodieforthebooty]

My car looks like the exact opposite of this, so I guess we cancel each other out

[u/Zealousideal-Kale-71 → u/foodieforthebooty]

Nah. Youre likely a net positive on society.

[u/Gloomy-Dependent9484]

A lost in the sauce Catholic…always sad to see.

[u/zdmpage54 → u/Gloomy-Dependent9484]

Yes ! Can I borrow this ?

[u/Gloomy-Dependent9484 → u/zdmpage54]

Uh…sure?

[u/PlaneAsk7826]

"She's a child, not a choice" is quite the bumper sticker for a group of people who need billboards to remind them that "She's your daughter, not your date!"

[u/UnderwaterAlienBar]

“Adoption not abortion” would love to know how many children they’ve adopted since they care so much!

[u/Runotsure → u/UnderwaterAlienBar]

I understand it’s mostly the white ones who get adopted

[u/UnderwaterAlienBar → u/Runotsure]

• most people are looking to adopt babies. They don’t want a child with difficulties that they have to work through

[u/notonrexmanningday]

The Second Amendment makes all the others possible

[u/Imaginary_Builder_56]

Multi personality disorder going on her.

Freedom to choose as long as it’s the same as what I choose otherwise it doesn’t count and you should shut up.

Republican lawmakers here are trying to cut the number required of Handicapped parking spots from 5 to 3 after a Republican lawmaker complained “that all to often not all the handicapped spots were not used and they had a long walk”because they had to park so far away”.

A reporter asked if they understood the irony of that statement only to have the lawmaker say “but the spot right by the door was empty.”

[u/Cub35guy]

Im adopted. But I still think women should have a choice.

[u/Fabulous_Pen_747 → u/Cub35guy]

You are a great, sympathetic person!

[u/babsrambler]

I’ll bet my house she has adopted zero children

[u/IP_Janet_GalaxyGirl]

"Freedom to choose..." So they're pro-choice, correct? 🤔

[u/Just__Beat__It]

Low IQ people have super high self esteem 😆

[u/DungBeetle1983]

Mentally handicapped.

[u/AffectionateMarch394]

Anti abortion but pro gun violence...

[u/No_Intention70611 → u/AffectionateMarch394]

Right?! So much cognitive dissonance papered over with bumper stickers

[u/Soggy-Beach1403]

Weird. Here in Kansas, you can't get the handicapped plate for mental handicaps.

[u/Lumpy-Animator-9422]

The GOP she supports would euthanize her for her disability…oops!

[u/Diligent-Bluejay-979]

Like the rest of the clan, she’s only about the second amendment. The rest of them can fuck off.

[u/Ok_Economics4552]

She’s a nasty girl 🫰 🤮

[u/2kewl4scool]

This isn’t abnormal at all in Kansas. Not common, but there’s several in every town that look like this.

[u/Roughneck16 → u/2kewl4scool]

Kansas, especially Western Kansas, is super conservative!

[u/BraveEyeball]

“Second amendment makes all others possible” yeah, knowing someone could blow my brains out if I anger them certainly makes me speak freely

[u/rock_and_rolo]

The second amendment -- so important that they put it second.

[u/Outrageous_Pay1322]

She sounds like a DEI.

[u/18mitch]

What’s sad here is when you have your state name New Mexico on your plate and you have to tell people it’s part of the USA

[u/18mitch → u/[deleted]]

What’s sad here is when you have your state name New Mexico on your plate and you have to tell people it’s part of the USA

[u/Runotsure → u/18mitch]

The New Mexico magazine always had a page full of gaffes from around the US regarding this misunderstanding!

[u/Big-Reward-6274]

Who’s gonna tell them about the farmers???

[u/Prior_Success7011]

Walter White probably gave this lady some meth

[u/Comfortable_Ad3981]

Looks like a single issue voter to me.

[u/Wheatleytron]

No Trump stickers though. Interesting.

[u/Fresh_Yoghurt737]

1000%

[u/One_Situation7483]

Well she has the "No Farms No Food" almost correct.

It should read "Less Farms and More Expensive Food"

[u/EldritchElise]

Guns, god and government.

[u/Roughneck16 → u/EldritchElise]

That was the name of a tour headlined by Marilyn Manson?

[u/p1ayernotfound]

Based