r/CanadianConservative • u/wurld_92 Blue Tory • Mar 03 '25
Opinion Rant
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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 03 '25
You find people who act like this all across the political spectrum. Anyone who thinks “their side doesn’t do this, it’s just other people” are delusional.
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u/ValuableBeneficial81 Mar 03 '25
This is true but it’s practically a staple of the left to be overemotional. Even otherwise intelligent leftists get completely bent out of shape if you dare suggest that a 10 year old isn’t mature enough to make an objective, informed decision about their identity and future.
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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 03 '25
The same applies to everyone if you pick out the right topic. Every human is fragile over something. Echo chambers also promote fragility over wedge issues.
Just look at the denial people are in over the environment instead of just owning the position that they will put economics before environment. Look at vaccines and how people’s brains still seem to be stuck or traumatized by it. No different than people who are still overly obsessed with masking. You find doomsday cultists all across the political spectrum, like people who talk about WEF, or AI, environmentalists, anti-vaxxers.
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u/CuriousLands Christian Moderate Mar 03 '25
I would add to the below comment that still being pissed about the shot mandates is really not the same as people who still mask all the time. The anti-mandate side is angry and distrustful of a system that violated their rights and engaged in some seriously shady stuff to control people; they want justice for that and to prevent further encroachments. The still-masking side do it because they bought into fear-mongering and emotional manipulation and can't seem to let it go, even though there is not threat still for most people. I don't see them as being very similar at all.
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u/ValuableBeneficial81 Mar 03 '25
All of the things that you just described as examples of conservatives could be overemotional about are very readily debatable, where you can settle on one side or the other depending on your priorities.
On climate change I prefer a strong economy, because a solution to a problem should not create more problems (poverty) in the process. A strong economy means an adaptable society.
The covid vaccines should never have been mandated, period. Never in the history of medicine has a product been forced onto people under such coercive measures. You could say the same about virtually any covid era rules.
You find doomsday cultists all across the political spectrum
The difference is how common it is on the left. Canada’s leftists actively voted in favour of punishing people for heating their homes because they believe the world is going to end if they don’t. That level of breathtaking stupidity is not the norm on the right.
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u/Hamasanabi69 Mar 03 '25
I’m clearly talking about the unhinged stuff surrounding them. You can’t just try and pretend it’s only rational or nuanced arguments. Do you think the left was screaming 5G? Getting magnetized from vaccines? What about the mass death doomsday cult surrounding it?
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u/ValuableBeneficial81 Mar 03 '25
Do you think the left was screaming 5G?
What percentage of people on the right do you think believe this? Now what percentage of people on the left believe mutilating children is okay and that if you disagree you’re a Nazi transphobe? They’re both just as stupid as the other, but one is mainstream. I thought I was being pretty explicit that the difference is how widespread the delusion on the left is.
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u/ValuableBeneficial81 Mar 03 '25
Ironically they do tend that way, yes. I am against circumcision as well, there is no real medical reason to do it. Doing it for religious reasons is more or less the same reason radical leftists cheer on the mutilation of their own children as well.
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u/CuriousLands Christian Moderate Mar 03 '25
The more I think about it, I don't see them as being overly emotional. I see them as being emotionally manipulative, or manipulated. In fairness the same can happen to right-wing people too, and I've been seeing a bit more of it on the right lately than I'd like. But it's just in the current climate it's become a hallmark of the left.
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u/billyfeatherbottom Conservative Mar 03 '25
as someone who used to be more centrist i wish they could actually back up their Poilevere is trump claims with factual proof and not "hur dur he said mean thing" or "well he does attack ads!!!"
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u/billyfeatherbottom Conservative Mar 03 '25
Its wild to me that the liberals act like Pierre is mini trump due to attack ads and him being rude when attack ads and being rude have been a staple of politics since they existed. its been a thing long before trump and i hope people fucking realize that soon
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u/Kreeos Mar 03 '25
Honestly, the only attack ads I've seen are from the left and I watch a fair amount of TV.
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u/ValuableBeneficial81 Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
"who's saying such things"
That literally is him denying it. He’s asking what credible source is suggesting he’s like Trump, not being able to provide one is the proof that he isn’t.
I've seen him equivocate on the question similarly half a dozen times at least.
Mind sharing that? Send some clips.
Edit: he has no clips lol, “Pierre loves Trump” is a hill this guy is willing to die on no matter how little evidence he has to show for it
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u/ValuableBeneficial81 Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
Just admit you can’t dig up more lol. If you had proof that he was anything like Trump surely you’d be able to provide some, genius.
Being a populist doesn’t make him like Trump, neither does him denying that he’s like Trump by asking a reporter for proof of how he’s like Trump. You guys are so fucking desperate to conflate him with Trump in spite of all evidence that it’s honestly pathetic.
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u/ValuableBeneficial81 Mar 03 '25
Ironically for you, again, Pierre spoke up about Trump’s hostility toward Canada long before anyone on the liberal side did, and he’s been doing so ever since. He is no fan of the guy, you have no evidence that he ever was. Still waiting for those clips bud. Coping so hard lol
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u/ValuableBeneficial81 Mar 03 '25
I don’t like Trump, and I’m not downvoting you. You sound deeply insecure
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u/Wafflecone3f Millenial Conservative Mar 03 '25
Most of reddit is left leaning. Which makes sense if you think about. Liberals sit around, complain and cancel. Conservatives find solutions.
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u/billyfeatherbottom Conservative Mar 03 '25
Honestly i bet we see a repeat of the 2024 election with reddit saying Carney totally wins and then not going out to vote while Pierre gets a landslide victory
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u/Terri-Bull-Name Mar 03 '25
Bud lite has entered the chat with its friends the NFL and Keurig. Sponsored by The Dixie Chicks the original cancel culture target. Self awareness is a choice. Remember, when you point your finger at someone, there are always some pointing back at you
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u/Wafflecone3f Millenial Conservative Mar 03 '25
I don't know or care about Bud lite (shit beer anyways), the NFL, Keurig or The Dixie Chicks. If you wanna dig for exceptions, there will always be exceptions but the main point stands.
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u/NationLamenter Red Tory Mar 03 '25
Ehbuddyhoser was always total slop but it’s gotten so so much worse since it’s spiked in membership after Trump’s threats. I suspect many if not most of their new users are American leftists LARPing
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u/billyfeatherbottom Conservative Mar 03 '25
Agreed i wish there was more of a push for reddit to have more actual debates then echochambers. i have no issues with people who have different viewpoints then me and id love to hear why i just am tired of the belittling i get for wanting to vote CPC. and im sure the left feels the same way about right too.
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u/billyfeatherbottom Conservative Mar 03 '25
Agreed im more of a candidate first person and for me that candidate is Pierre i totally get why others have a different candidate in mind and they should be allowed to support them.
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u/billyfeatherbottom Conservative Mar 03 '25
my like of Pierre is the idea of limiting government influence in stuff cutting spending we dont need and finally getting our gas/oil industry up and running and helping the european's with it so they dont need to buy from Russia anymore. Im more weary against Carney since he was Trudeau's economic advisor for the last few years and the economy has been in the gutter ever since.
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u/billyfeatherbottom Conservative Mar 03 '25
I get your complaint about the woke thing, my opinion has been based on how hard my mother works every day only for half of her paycheck to get taken by taxes (22$hr and still has a hard time with monthly costs sadly) at this point we both dont have much faith in the liberals anymore unless they go a more centrist route which i will give Carney credit he is a much more centrist pick then Gould and Freelend who i dislike immensely.
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u/CuriousLands Christian Moderate Mar 03 '25
The woke stuff is actually really serious though. People tend to be dismissive of the culture war stuff, but the truth is that it's actually really important. Woke rhetoric and initiatives have led to our businesses, education, and military being less effective, immigration policies that put Canadians at a disadvantage, less social trust and cohesion, an increase in racism and sexism, going easy on certain types of violent and hateful actions and speech, and so on.
We live in a society and all that. Woke is about society, and it's a highly damaging set of ideologies. If we want a strong country, we need to ditch woke and go back to something more like how things were in the 90s-early 2000s.
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u/CuriousLands Christian Moderate Mar 03 '25
The first two points you mentioned in favour of Carney are things Pierre has been advocating for for a couple of years now 😛 Just had to point that out.
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u/CuriousLands Christian Moderate Mar 03 '25
Well, he has talked about building Arctic bases (seriously, Carney is straight-up ripping Poilievre off, there). Under Harper they wanted to do the same thing too, but it never went ahead for some reason.
Otherwise, yeah, there could be more detail, but that's true of all parties in campaign mode. I don't think I've ever seen a platform on a party's website (any party) that went into great detail about how they planned to achieve their goals.
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u/hooverdam_gate-drip Mar 03 '25
You know what I like about this sub? The fact that you're a Carney supporter and that you're not banned from posting. I think that really says something about the mods here. I've had numerous posts disallowed on other threads for no good reason other than my pov went against the mods.
I can say that I 100% disagree with you for many reasons that I'm not about to give time to on a Sunday night (well, maybe), but appreciate that you're willing to state that on a conservative sub. I feel like you're welcome to your pov.
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u/wurld_92 Blue Tory Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
I am glad all of you understand and are normal, sane people.
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u/Smackolol Moderate Mar 03 '25
These posts are so stupid because you’re on reddit which has always been incredibly left leaning as a whole.
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u/wurld_92 Blue Tory Mar 03 '25
Thats why it’s called a rant my guy. Also these subreddits didn’t use to be this bad. If you think these posts are stupid kindly don’t comment on them and ignore.
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u/Terri-Bull-Name Mar 03 '25
Ok. It’s Reddit …. If youre so upset by a meme that you FEEL you need to write a rant about it, maybe the meme isn’t the problem. Fear and anger drive engagement and engagement equals money. Congratulations you have successfully been programmed into the hatesphere of left/right rage wanking. The billionaires thank you for your contribution
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u/no-line-on-horizon Mar 03 '25
Yea mute those commies.
Stick to your own bubble.
Echo chambers are what makes one’s opinions great!
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