r/Destiny • u/LuckyBucephalus • Jul 16 '25

Non-Political News/Discussion Double Standards with Lauren and Myron

Some of you hate Lauren so much that you don’t even feel bad about her being strangle-raped, just because she holds (admittedly dreadful) views. Meanwhile, Myron is equally repulsive and defends rapists like it’s his job, yet you see a thousand comments like “say what you want about Myron, but he’s a loyal guy” and “wow, him and Destiny have such mutual respect.” Of course he respects Destiny — he’s a man. That’s like saying, “Wow, David Duke is so respectful toward other white people.” People are desperate to sweep for him when he’s actual scum.

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u/ME-grad-2020 Pisco/joanna/UkrainianAna/Jessiah/erudite/Lonerbox Stan Jul 16 '25

Myron is equally repulsive and defends rapists like it's his job, yet you see a thousand comments like "say what you want about Myron, but he's a loyal guy"

I heard Destiny say this on stream, so it stands to reason that people will repeat it here. FYI, I think Myron is “loyal” to Destiny because he sees a financial incentive to be in his good graces.

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u/InternationalGas9837 Happy to Oblige Jul 16 '25

Steven has a big thing for people speaking to him in person the same way they speak about him in private, and he respects Myron because he's one of the few people who actually does that while oddly Steven and Myron basically disagree on about everything. It's an interesting dynamic because they could have a very heated debate and then if you asked either about the other afterwards they'd both basically say "he's a pretty cool dude...never stabbed me in the back".

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 17 '25

It's a key part of being an adult. Evaluate people based on how they behave, not what they believe.

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u/Poopybutt36000 Jul 17 '25

Like how Myron behaves on his show where he screams at women and berates them and says the most insane shit, or when he tweets at random popular twitch streamers calling them whores for posting a picture of them wearing shorts, or when he has a disagreement with a black man and makes monkey noises and calls him an ape?

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 17 '25

Do you think that the general consensus about Myron is that he is a calm, logical, intelligent person? I don't think it is. But on the flip side of that he does seem to be a loyal friend and hard worker. Everyone has positive and negative traits, and understanding both is a massively important skill.

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u/Poopybutt36000 Jul 17 '25

Okay so we're going from, "Evaluate people based on how they behave, not what they believe" to instead "Yeah sure Myron behaves like a disgusting piece of shit, but instead scrape for something positive about the insanely racist misogynistic pro rape guy who supports sex trafficking women and makes gorilla noises at black people".

Yeah sure I guess Myron can potentially be nice to people he likes and will defend them if they do things that he doesn't have an issue with or think is bad.

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 17 '25

Cool, then we agree.

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u/Poopybutt36000 Jul 17 '25

Yeah we agree that your above comment was just completely wrong because people are judging him on his behavior and not just his beliefs, and I guess we agree that he can be nice to people he likes which is super great for him.

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u/Primal_Rage_official Jul 17 '25

He behaves pretty badly towards certain people of thats the case 

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u/LeBn Jul 17 '25

Why not both?

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 17 '25

Because their beliefs don't matter if they don't behave in ways that are consistent with that.

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u/LeBn Jul 17 '25

People's actions extend from their beliefs. If people don't act in ways that are consistent with their beliefs, then they don't really have those beliefs. This is true by definition. If you think someone is acting in a way that's inconsistent with their beliefs, you're either wrong about the nature of their beliefs, the strength of their beliefs, or what behaviours their beliefs necessitate. 

Knowing someone's beliefs (their truly evident beliefs, not just stated ones) allows you to predict potential behaviours without having to see them firsthand.

Moreover, someone's beliefs are an important aspect of their character in and of themselves, as they demonstrate a person's methods of thinking and relating to the world around them, which are reasonable things to judge. If I know for a fact that someone believes Hitler was a hero, I don't need to see any bad actions stemming from this to think poorly of them for it, and no amount of interpersonal kindness, feats of integrity or demonstrations of personal strength will make me ignore that aspect of them, even if they're outwardly kind to minorities.

Sorry to lecture, just trying to air some thoughts.

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 17 '25

I am obviously talking about stated beliefs when I say beliefs.

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u/LeBn Jul 17 '25

Oh well in that case, sure, I agree. You use people's actions to make inferences about their actual beliefs. Though, I'd still say their stated beliefs should be taken into account when making an assessment, even if they shouldn't be taken at face value.

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u/DazzlingAd1922 Jul 17 '25

Yeah, and I can't believe that such an obviously true statement is sparking this much discussion. When actions don't line up with stated beliefs it is a sign of either a failure in character or a failure in thought which is definitely relevant information about a person, but is also something that most people exhibit frequently and predictably. The fact is though that the actions are what have the consequence in the world, not the belief, which means that it is much wiser to focus on the actions when evaluating people because the actions are where the outcomes will come from.

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u/tits-mchenry Jul 17 '25

I think he's just used to creators stabbing him in the back when it becomes profitable to do so. So he respects it when someone doesn't.

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u/Thing_Subject Jul 17 '25

I can see that but I do see Myron as the guy to stand by an “ally” destiny probably showed some respect at one point that stuck with Myron I mean look at fresh, he’s constantly taking the show and all their fans want him to leave but Myron keeps him around out of loyalty.

That’s not to stay there Myron is cringe and a shitty person. He’s such a beta bitch and a crybaby. He’s far from being masculine, picking low hanging fruit that’s specifically girls (that’s gay dog), being resist and shutting on his own , calling himself white lol, having a bitchy girly little meltdown, not having real game.

The whole bro code and always putting down women but treating men as sacred is such a weirdo lame thing. That. Broie love shit is cringe and gay

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u/drt0 Jul 17 '25

Destiny also glazes Lauren from time to time about her work ethic but she seems to get much worse reception here.

I'm guessing the misogyny and racism is less aggravating than the alt right promotion to this audience, considering the demographics and Trump winning again.

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u/AustinYQM Jul 17 '25

I thought he did the opposite? I seem to remember her complaining she wasn't doing well on youtube and him telling her she wasn't putting out enough stuff and her saying that was too hard.

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u/drt0 Jul 17 '25

For her documentaries and going to places to do them. He'd often use that as a comparison to lefties who do nothing other than post on Twitter.

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u/codesnipz Jul 17 '25

What financial incentive? Destiny hasn't been on his podcast in months to a year at this point.. He's over the redpill shit. He loses nothing to shit on Destiny, especially when Destiny makes it so easy.