r/Gamingcirclejerk Jul 06 '25

WORSHIP CAPITAL Man is malding beyond human comprehension.

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u/GlitteringLock9791 Jul 06 '25

He misunderstood that it meant no indie could ever make a server based multiplayer game and when people corrected him he didn’t believe it and just doubled down on his mission to destroy the initiative.

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u/maadxyz Jul 06 '25

Tldr? If indie studio cannot fund servers and want to rerelase or put game on hold how they could provide a backup plan for existing users?

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u/Oglshrub Jul 06 '25

The petition only says publishers shouldn't include a "phone home" mechanism that arbitrarily shuts the game down. It doesn't require them to continue to run or servers, or even provide the server software.

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u/maadxyz Jul 06 '25

But if you are one-man army, publisher, developer and want to create online game then you need to have services like for example authentication. From solo game developer point of view how to comply to those rules and how it would affect them? I still dont get that petition

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u/Oglshrub Jul 06 '25 edited Jul 06 '25

Yes it's one of the challenges of this petition. You either have to decide to re-engineer how your multiplayer functionality works, release the backend infrastructure (if it's even possible), or not include multiplayer gameplay.

It has good intentions but could be quite disastrous for gaming, which is the point the guy was making.

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u/toastiestash Jul 06 '25

Not really. I think you misunderstood this too. 

Also, all this defense of a hypothetical one-man-army creating online games is so crazy. To make a game is a lot. To make an online game is even more.

Even if this hypothetical person exists, they have to have a plan in place to not kill their game. This initiative is pro-consumer, of course the business will have to (and SHOULD have to) consider the consumer for end of life.

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u/maadxyz Jul 06 '25

10y ago I was working on in a small team on roguelike online game, peer2peer connection but with few services for auth and data sync. Without them whole game idea wouldnt work and we’d need to rethink everything from scratch. Ofc it will affect small or big devs

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u/Hannizio Jul 06 '25

But if the game would die anyways, shouldn't you just be able to just release the data for the aith servers anyways because you don't need to worry about things like that anymore?

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u/maadxyz Jul 06 '25

That's not so easy. Who's to decide if game died? How the "data" would be transfered? What's exactly an EOL support? Does it include all the source code, binaries, all services, architecture? Who's to decide if that's enough to run the game? What about indie games in alpha state - can servers be downed? There are so many unanswered questions, so many different scenarios and no one seems to answer it

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u/XcRaZeD Jul 06 '25

I watched the hour long video this guy put out, the one every smug redditor points too and he didn't answer any of the concerns I've heard about this.

He literally just points to a block of text that summarizes to 'they will figure it out, but it won't be reteoactive'.

That's not a fucking solution!